Started playing at 1 PM Est (roughly - quick download though, only about 30 minutes). Turned it off and asked for a refund at 4 PM Est (Steam recorded it at 2 hours 35 minutes of playtime)... I honestly hated doing that - I feel like I betrayed my most favorite genre, and I've never returned a game through Steam ever (out of 108 titles)... But, it's just not worth the price. I had intentionally avoided reviews/spoilers/videos/streams, etc. but that was actually a bad idea this time around. I got my refund about an hour later.
NMS vs ED
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I play with HOTAS + secondary stick. But you're basically saying there is no difference in flight mechanics if you use a gamepad, which is absurd. ED has FA off, for example, even if you can control it less well with a gamepad. You have turn-ratio influenced by fuel levels, different thrusters on your ship have different strenths, and some will have difficulties with lower Gs when landing than others. The flight mechanics and model of ED are far superior to NMS when it comes to depth. You're not reviewing the flight models but the controllers you use.
Is this 1.0.3 you're reviewing here?
Dude, feel special! Normally Steam acts like royal potatoes when asking for refunds for games with even a minute over two hours playtime. I'm suspecting Valve is going to have a word with Sony...
It is.
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No, it makes no difference to me, you might well make an argument for ED's flight model but once you're down to controller level, they're both equally as terrible because you're using something which is akin to boxing gloves for surgery. At that point it's much of a muchness. ED's flight model shines with a flight stick, but if you're using an Xbox pad, then there's functionally no difference between it and NMS, and that much I can say for absolute -certain-.
Well, if I'm being operated on by a person with boxing gloves, I'd still have a preference for a surgeon than an archeologist.
I've got about 1400 hours in ED using an xbox 360 controller before switching to a HOTAS, and I have to say that I disagree with you here. ED on the controller felt solid and comfortable. If you aren't prejudiced against the controller in the first place (and it sounds like you are), it's fully possible to gain a mastery of your ship. NMS, on the other hand feels like I'm piloting the debug camera...that they forgot to debug. Big difference in weight and "chunk." Reminds me of flying the Skunk in XR; no sense of heft. Plus, NMS just feels really squirrely to me--maybe that'll change after I get some time on it. But right now I'd say there was as big a difference in how the controls feel when compared to one another as the graphical aesthetics are different from one another.
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It's true, ED is like a half sculpted block of marble. But in this analogy NMS is like a fully functional etch-a-sketch, or maybe a lite-bright.
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well gentlemen after 2 hours playing NMS i have requested a refund......i never thought i would...but it is a basic bad looking non immersive rubbish.
all the collecting nonsence...i got off the first planet,then visited 5 more before realising i discovered all mechanics of the game......very dissapointed.
poor excuse for a space game and im sorry for anyone i have knocked in recent weeks....hype got me.......all i got now is ED...thank god
if and when FD implement fps and planets with alien life ect......please dont do it like hello games.
you so called white knights that i berate...well you wre right.
the best part was when i first flew down to a lush green planet like a jungle...but once you get down and close it is just too ....cutesy for me to take serious
all the collecting nonsence...i got off the first planet,then visited 5 more before realising i discovered all mechanics of the game......very dissapointed.
poor excuse for a space game and im sorry for anyone i have knocked in recent weeks....hype got me.......all i got now is ED...thank god
if and when FD implement fps and planets with alien life ect......please dont do it like hello games.
you so called white knights that i berate...well you wre right.
the best part was when i first flew down to a lush green planet like a jungle...but once you get down and close it is just too ....cutesy for me to take serious
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I was going to do a video series on No Mans Sky, but after playing for a few hours, I have completely decided against it.
Dont get me wrong, its a very pretty game, some aspects are very nice, and being able to get out of your cockpit, walk around and interact with the environment is really refreshing.
However......
Flight mechanics are too arcadey, I was expecting this, but not to this degree..
Planets/plants/animals become samey just with different hues with similar parts used over and over again in new combinations to create different animals and plants.
Planets have a single type of biosphere and feel "small" compared to Elite Dangerous moon surfaces which are huge.
Atmospherically I feel like I am in a game in NMS, a very pretty game, but a game nonetheless. Elite dangerous is so much more Atmospheric, and feels more real.
Combat is laughable.. sorry NMS...
Dont get me wrong, I like NMS, as others have stated its a very pretty nature walk, and some of the combinations of plants and animals can be funny to see. But there is no real atmosphere to the game, and to me that's everything. Elite Dangerous might not be as 'pretty' but it feels much more real, and has bucket loads of atmosphere. I remember when I first went out to look at the newly discovered barnacles. I arrived during the night phase of the moon, and it was dark in my room, and the sounds from the barnacles and the knowledge of my complete remoteness from the bubble had such a profound effect on me, a combination of awe, fear and excitement. NMS dosent have that. You jump from one planet to the next just searching for materials.. wait.. err... that sounds familiar dosent it.. HHAHAHAHA
The truth is, both games have their pros and cons. Elite Dangerous is FAR from a perfect game.. but for me, and I am saying just me here, Elite feels like a more complete space sim, the ships feel right, the galaxy feels huge and imposing, the combat is fantastic and the atmosphere is deep. No Mans Sky is a pretty survival flight and walk sim that really is suited to game consoles and to those who want something a bit more simple to play. Does that make NMS a bad game? not at all, just not a game that resonates personally with me.
So I wont be making any NMS videos, which is kinda disappointing for me. I guess I will just have to wait for Star Citizen.. HAAahahhaAHahaAHhaaaaaHAhahAHhahhaaahahhAHHAA... errhuumm.. sorry..
Dont get me wrong, its a very pretty game, some aspects are very nice, and being able to get out of your cockpit, walk around and interact with the environment is really refreshing.
However......
Flight mechanics are too arcadey, I was expecting this, but not to this degree..
Planets/plants/animals become samey just with different hues with similar parts used over and over again in new combinations to create different animals and plants.
Planets have a single type of biosphere and feel "small" compared to Elite Dangerous moon surfaces which are huge.
Atmospherically I feel like I am in a game in NMS, a very pretty game, but a game nonetheless. Elite dangerous is so much more Atmospheric, and feels more real.
Combat is laughable.. sorry NMS...
Dont get me wrong, I like NMS, as others have stated its a very pretty nature walk, and some of the combinations of plants and animals can be funny to see. But there is no real atmosphere to the game, and to me that's everything. Elite Dangerous might not be as 'pretty' but it feels much more real, and has bucket loads of atmosphere. I remember when I first went out to look at the newly discovered barnacles. I arrived during the night phase of the moon, and it was dark in my room, and the sounds from the barnacles and the knowledge of my complete remoteness from the bubble had such a profound effect on me, a combination of awe, fear and excitement. NMS dosent have that. You jump from one planet to the next just searching for materials.. wait.. err... that sounds familiar dosent it.. HHAHAHAHA
The truth is, both games have their pros and cons. Elite Dangerous is FAR from a perfect game.. but for me, and I am saying just me here, Elite feels like a more complete space sim, the ships feel right, the galaxy feels huge and imposing, the combat is fantastic and the atmosphere is deep. No Mans Sky is a pretty survival flight and walk sim that really is suited to game consoles and to those who want something a bit more simple to play. Does that make NMS a bad game? not at all, just not a game that resonates personally with me.
So I wont be making any NMS videos, which is kinda disappointing for me. I guess I will just have to wait for Star Citizen.. HAAahahhaAHahaAHhaaaaaHAhahAHhahhaaahahhAHHAA... errhuumm.. sorry..
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Thanks. It's not really all that much of a difference to me though. I've done both in real life and in video games, but currently I do prefer the wireless game controller for ED/H for the comfy couch gaming experience. I have the controller set up similarly to my pro level wireless hobby gear too, so in that sense it is just as valid in a sim type way. It isn't the controller, but how you use it. I do prefer the analog sticks in the middle though, so the Xbox controller isn't for me.
My only real complaint with using a contemporary game controller is the 19% multi-axes maneuverability handicap due to an easily avoidable design flaw. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...imit-Request-for-Analog-Sticks-Pretty-Please!
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I agree with you about preferring keyboard or keypad and mouse for FPS style games though. I also have a wireless keyboard and mouse that I use for that sitting on the couch. Believe it or not, it actually works out quite well for me.
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Squadron 42 but not SC as a whole. I will be taking a break to play that.
+ REP This is an excellent comparison to the two and exactly how I feel. One day, that sculpture will be finished but NMS will always still be lite bright
Agreed with everything stated here +rep CMDR
jesus.....I love Elite but I have spent €110 on a promise, i expect I will pay more and one day it will be the game it is supposed to be.....€1100 is my guess.....
I have spent €60 on NMS and got exactly what I paid for.
I didnt think that needed to be spelt out.
I don't think you were paying attention to the kickstarter then.
Alright. I will also contribute.
Bugs and glitches (that will be squished, eventually, I believe) aside- NMS is cool. I wasn't aboard the hype train, but I considered it a possible "hobby game" (as opposed to a full-time job which is Elite. )
It didn't disappoint. Actually everyone who watched the presentations with their own eyes, instead of the pink hype-tinted glasses, will get exactly what they promised.
Everything from the flight model to same-y but cute procedurally generated life and planets was advertised right and was delivered exactly that way.
So NMS is one of the best survival/crafting games I've played (Currently second behind Subnautica). Plus there's space a little. I think it's cool and I will give it an hour or two, now and then. It's that kind of the game that you will understand in an hour, master in eight and get bored of in forty.
My only real beef with it is - it should have cost twenty bucks tops.
Bugs and glitches (that will be squished, eventually, I believe) aside- NMS is cool. I wasn't aboard the hype train, but I considered it a possible "hobby game" (as opposed to a full-time job which is Elite.
)It didn't disappoint. Actually everyone who watched the presentations with their own eyes, instead of the pink hype-tinted glasses, will get exactly what they promised.
Everything from the flight model to same-y but cute procedurally generated life and planets was advertised right and was delivered exactly that way.
So NMS is one of the best survival/crafting games I've played (Currently second behind Subnautica). Plus there's space a little. I think it's cool and I will give it an hour or two, now and then. It's that kind of the game that you will understand in an hour, master in eight and get bored of in forty.
My only real beef with it is - it should have cost twenty bucks tops.
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Alright. I will also contribute.
Bugs and glitches (that will be squished, eventually, I believe) aside- NMS is cool. I wasn't aboard the hype train, but I considered it a possible "hobby game" (as opposed to a full-time job which is Elite.
Agree. But it seems super buggy, unfortunately.
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