Horizons 300 hours down the drain.

[Miaga]

Humonguous amount of bad luck and not enough pessimism on my part got me hard reset on ED 3 days ago. I have played ED for a little over 300 hours and now finally I could buy myself a Python for that sweet, sweet cargospace and coolness-factor. 4 hours in, running cargo, I get interdicted by another Python, this one in full combat setup. Now I don't know if other pilots have an easier time shooting down battleships while flying a cargofreighter, but I got killed in under a minute, with 3 mil credits in cargo. Rebuy + loss of credits in cargo, meant I went over my credits and had to take a loan. "No biggie", I thought, "I'll just run cargo to pay the loan and continue". Loaded up my ship with cargo and set off. Immediately after jump I got interdicted by a Federal Assault ship, this one had missiles, or torpedoes, or whatever the hell it is that drops your Python in three shots. So now here I am with 300 hundred hours of playtime and absolutely nothing to show for it. Had to take a sidewinder(which spawned me in a hostile area 200Ly away, thanks for that by the way).

Is there a way to roll back a few days in time so I can get my hard earned ship back?

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To clarify; I have never been this upset with a videogame before. I can't even write properly.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Not the game's fault. Should have run if you where in trade set up. Plus if you didn't have enough for insurance the second time, sell the ship and get a smaller one. Do not fly without insurance.

 

[D.G.Cerberus]

Not the game's fault. Should have run if you where in trade set up. Plus if you didn't have enough for insurance the second time, sell the ship and get a smaller one. Do not fly without insurance.

^^ This.
1. Do not attempt to fight when you cannot win. Next time, fit some mine launchers, Point Defence and High wake out.
2. Don't extend your finances to the extent that Ship + Cargo only leaves you 1 re-buy. From what I read on this forum, recommendation is for at least 3 re-buys in hand.
3. Fit point defence. and maybe ECM. This will help protect you from those missiles/ torpedoes etc.
4. If you are carrying lucrative cargo, always prepare for interdiction (i.e. have a high wake solution ready) and don't be shy about running. Hell, half the time the interdicting ships have a 200Cr bounty on them, not worth the time stopping to fight them anyway!
5. I doubt FD will give you your ship back - game is acting as intended
6. Try running in High Security systems

Sorry for your frustration

 

[askavir]

There's nothing you can do to roll back time.

After being destroyed and having to take a loan, going out again with the uninsured python was perhaps far too big a gamble? Better to park the ship and use a cheap one until rebuy is covered. Interdictions are way too frequent at the current game state.

Anyway, you didn't lose a single hour. Virtual currency and assets are ultimately just vapourware, what really counts is the ingame experiences, the moments that last, the ingame sensations. And those you will never lose regardless of outcome. And the slight risk of losing everything makes those experiences far more lively.

Coming back up the 2nd time around is always much easier.

 

[Globusdiablo]

Humonguous amount of bad luck and not enough pessimism on my part got me hard reset on ED 3 days ago. I have played ED for a little over 300 hours and now finally I could buy myself a Python for that sweet, sweet cargospace and coolness-factor. 4 hours in, running cargo, I get interdicted by another Python, this one in full combat setup. Now I don't know if other pilots have an easier time shooting down battleships while flying a cargofreighter, but I got killed in under a minute, with 3 mil credits in cargo. Rebuy + loss of credits in cargo, meant I went over my credits and had to take a loan. "No biggie", I thought, "I'll just run cargo to pay the loan and continue". Loaded up my ship with cargo and set off. Immediately after jump I got interdicted by a Federal Assault ship, this one had missiles, or torpedoes, or whatever the hell it is that drops your Python in three shots. So now here I am with 300 hundred hours of playtime and absolutely nothing to show for it. Had to take a sidewinder(which spawned me in a hostile area 200Ly away, thanks for that by the way).

Is there a way to roll back a few days in time so I can get my hard earned ship back?

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To clarify; I have never been this upset with a videogame before. I can't even write properly.

Though I feel your pain, I just want to say I love that I can't kill everything I see anymore. NPCs are way better than back in the day, and I actually have to have an escape plan ready every time I get interdicted.

I also run a multi purpose Python, and if NPC's are hammering my shields without me making a dent, I ready the brave Sir Robin.

The fact that I now have to be alert when playing Elite: Dangerous, means that it is no longer Elite: Safe, but indeed Elite: Dangerous, which I personally think is a good thing.

Bottom line: Practice your brave Sir Robin.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Might be the area I'm operating in, but I could earn me a basic Python in ~2-4 days if I was to push it. In a Boom state in a day less.

Courier Missions often paying >100k, local deliveries upto 2M Cr or 70-140LY Delivery stacks for upto 7.5M Cr per run, all legal.
Mining in the local Pristine Metallic rings or Bounty Hunting in any of the widely abundant RES/LowRES/HighRES/HazRES provide other easy income Options.

And it's true what's been said - in-game everything can be reset basically, but not the experience. That experience is invaluable and makes any restart a breeze, compared to actually the 1st time launching in a Sidey and having no real clue how to proceed next.

PS.
Pre-V2.1 a basic Python was still quite a thing, but post-V2.1 it requires alot of costly upgrades to get back "into business". And only potent Engineer Mods give it the edge back that it IMHO lost.
It wasn't until I got me L5 Dirty Drive Mods that I took the Turrets of my own Python again.
Not a big fan of Turrets - but they sure helped alot, definitely can't complain about them.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Not completely down the drain, unless you forget the lesson: don't fly without rebuy.

 

[sbdags]

Absolutely self inflicted. What were you thinking?

 

[bendover]

People can give you all the smart      advice they wish,ED can be very unforgiving game,Certainly one of the most unforgiving games i have played.You should ask yourself Do i get back on the horse,or throw in the towel

 

[D.G.Cerberus]

Though I feel your pain, I just want to say I love that I can't kill everything I see anymore. NPCs are way better than back in the day, and I actually have to have an escape plan ready every time I get interdicted.

I also run a multi purpose Python, and if NPC's are hammering my shields without me making a dent, I ready the brave Sir Robin.

The fact that I now have to be alert when playing Elite: Dangerous, means that it is no longer Elite: Safe, but indeed Elite: Dangerous, which I personally think is a good thing.

Bottom line: Practice your brave Sir Robin.

Yes, I agree, pre-release it was a minor irritation being interdicted albeit with the solace of knowing that I would be collecting some sort of bounty payment. There was never any question mark over whether I would prevail, I would submit immediately, deploy the hardpoints, turn in and kill. Didn't matter what it was. (Or even what I was flying)

Now, every interdiction, rare as they are, invokes a slight triggering of tension, immediate flip to the contacts panel to firstly see who/ what, and secondly to check high wake options! (Although only on final jump, otherwise if mid route it is just submit, resume route and go - shields are more than up to holding for that length of time including tiny Bi-Weaves if your escape vector strategy is sound)

So yes - much better. And whilst Elite can be unforgiving, it can also be truly rewarding.....

 

[d8veh]

Don't dispair. A lot of the 300 hrs was spent learning about the game. With that experience, you can get yor Python back in less than 12 hours. read this and go make your fortune.take the above advice on how to run away from interdictions. Don't waste time looking to see who the enemy is. Don't slow your ship down with weapons. Speed (thrusters) and shields are all you need, plus point defence and chaff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4pyzbs/zero_to_anaconda_in_155_hours/

 

[Deleted member 115407]

People can give you all the smart advice they wish,ED can be very unforgiving game,Certainly one of the most unforgiving games i have played.You should ask yourself Do i get back on the horse,or throw in the towel

I didn't see any smart ass advice prior to your post.

OP, the advice given here is on-point. Some folks are comfortable fighting their trade builds. Assuming you're not...

• Rig up your trade build for defense
• Prior to leaving the station, know your combat stance.

If your mission is to move commodities from point A to point B, then make that your mission. Supply convoys generally don't stop to engage hostiles. When they are actioned upon, their priority is to egress quickly and safely
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• If you don't have enough to cover the insurance, then fly something smaller and cheaper. You may make less short-term profits, but keeping your ship alive will increase your profits in the long run.

The last point, ties in with the first point. Don't sacrifice security for cargo space. Better to lose a hundred thousand in potential trade profit than to lose five million on a ship rebuy.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

The OP hasn't responded.

So I can only assume this is some sort of trolling attempt. Lol

I'm not even sure how people are still flying without insurance. Especially once you get to Python level.
I'm confused. Has the OP never died?

Also, if you're not winning a fight, why are you still fighting?
Running is not losing.

Either way, there are plenty of guides for easy money to get yourself back in to it.

 

[Space Hitler]

^^ This.
1. Do not attempt to fight when you cannot win. Next time, fit some mine launchers, Point Defence and High wake out.
2. Don't extend your finances to the extent that Ship + Cargo only leaves you 1 re-buy. From what I read on this forum, recommendation is for at least 3 re-buys in hand.
3. Fit point defence. and maybe ECM. This will help protect you from those missiles/ torpedoes etc.
4. If you are carrying lucrative cargo, always prepare for interdiction (i.e. have a high wake solution ready) and don't be shy about running. Hell, half the time the interdicting ships have a 200Cr bounty on them, not worth the time stopping to fight them anyway!
5. I doubt FD will give you your ship back - game is acting as intended
6. Try running in High Security systems

Sorry for your frustration

he didnt ask what he did wron, he is asking how to fix it

 

[Deleted member 115407]

he didnt ask what he did wron, he is asking how to fix it

If you mean "fix it" by restoring his prior status, yeah, he is. But the real way to fix it is to learn from the experience and not repeat the mistakes that got him into his current situation.

 

[Parane]

Just suck it up, fuzzball. Hopefully you've learned a valuable lesson.

 

[Dad Rock]

It's easy to think you've lost all that time, but you haven't. If you're in the red and haven't the credits to buy a big ship again, don't feel like you've taken a step back. Take a deep breath, then use the smaller ship to start over. You'll find you make the money back far quicker than you first thought. Also, use your strengths, if you're not a combat pilot, don't fight. Submit to interdictions, full pips to system and any spare go to engines, then keep boosting until your FSD has cooled down. When you see it's started charging, use your chaff to throw off the interdictor's targeting (if you use the chaff launcher before the FSD starts charging to jump, it'll give you an error saying hard points deployed. It doesn't do that if you use the chaff after it starts charging so you don't lose valuable seconds and put yourself at risk).

It's a bit like life, you take a few knocks but you can get back up again. You just have to be a bit philosophical sometimes and take it on the chin. Good luck, Commander!

 

[foebits]

Humonguous amount of bad luck and not enough pessimism on my part got me hard reset on ED 3 days ago. I have played ED for a little over 300 hours and now finally I could buy myself a Python for that sweet, sweet cargospace and coolness-factor. 4 hours in, running cargo, I get interdicted by another Python, this one in full combat setup. Now I don't know if other pilots have an easier time shooting down battleships while flying a cargofreighter, but I got killed in under a minute, with 3 mil credits in cargo. Rebuy + loss of credits in cargo, meant I went over my credits and had to take a loan. "No biggie", I thought, "I'll just run cargo to pay the loan and continue". Loaded up my ship with cargo and set off. Immediately after jump I got interdicted by a Federal Assault ship, this one had missiles, or torpedoes, or whatever the hell it is that drops your Python in three shots. So now here I am with 300 hundred hours of playtime and absolutely nothing to show for it. Had to take a sidewinder(which spawned me in a hostile area 200Ly away, thanks for that by the way).

Is there a way to roll back a few days in time so I can get my hard earned ship back?

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To clarify; I have never been this upset with a videogame before. I can't even write properly.

And waiting to buy it until you had enough for insurance never occurred to you? This is not the game's fault but your own and you have no right or privilege to be angry about it.
That sidewinder is a product of your own ineptitude, deal with it.

 

[bkrownd]

if you use the chaff launcher before the FSD starts charging to jump, it'll give you an error saying hard points deployed.

I don't think I've seen this happen before... Chaff is not a "hard point". You must have set your keybindings so it depolys something else along with the chaff?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

I don't think I've seen this happen before... Chaff is not a "hard point". You must have set your keybindings so it depolys something else along with the chaff?

I think it happens when you assign it to a trigger. You can hotkey chaff to prevent it.