This is worth a shot
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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This is worth a shot
I still have mine and last I heard The Canonn still has theirs.
I can't speak for The Canonn, but I have been...doing other stuff in-game for the past week or so. I also haven't found anything worthwhile to try with a UP anyway.
That said, I did post a test idea a few pages back, but that requires 2 UPs and 2 CMDRs.
Feel free to request experiments though.
EDIT: I just remembered. Mykl Atrum and Bungalo posted some results earlier with the 2 UPs from The Canonn.
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Just have a CHAT in game with the UP
just write their --| |-- |-| -|| " things and see if it responds!Just have a CHAT in game with the UP
I have seen that experiment suggested a number of times. I have thought about speaking to it in local chat as well.
The problem with the experiment is if you want to write binary symbols, what are you going to write? Suggesting using - and | based on how we currently denote things is simply a long shot. For example, why not use 0 and 1s? Or maybe _ and | like some transcriptions used? You could say just try them all and then some, but that's just bruteforcing it...
EDIT: Now I think about it...I think I am thinking too much in the terms of the idle audio. It does make sense from the spectrograph image to use - and |, as it seems to suggest thsoe symbols.
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Now that probe convoys have been found around Peregrina, anyone else think this stuff is related? The plague link is kind of disturbing. And so is that Palin guy.
No, actually the convoy was not in peregrina. the system description of peregrina is related to the fact that it is really close to UA shell and one of the closest systems to Merope in the bubble. Appart from that, the description seems a bit outdated, and the system was not even in outbreak since ages
Nope. We only had 1 UP and the two of us testing. We just did two audio in each location. So your test should still be done at some point if it hasn't.
I looked over the first page but not the previous threads. What if the canisters on the UA are empty? Has anyone gathered enough meta alloys for the number of canisters on the UA and either dropped them on it in space or put them and a UA in the cargo hold? Maybe the UA turns into a UP when they are full.
That would make sense "after discovery" and be easier than hunting convoys, two of MB's comments, and one would be a more advanced version of the other - I think that comment was somewhere in there too.
That would make sense "after discovery" and be easier than hunting convoys, two of MB's comments, and one would be a more advanced version of the other - I think that comment was somewhere in there too.
Yeah. Peregrina has had that description for ages. And yeah, convoy was in kagutsuchi, ruled by the Peregrina aristocrats.
In think the only thing this shows is convoys can spawn anywhere.
purely guessing here, but I think it is (due to signal content generation) assume that the controlling faction of the system is carrying the UP (seems to be in all the confirmed cases) and seemed related to the security level of the system (like the UA convoy) so I'm guessing convoys will not spawn outside of the inhabited systems.
I insist, pure guess.
hell yeah!! if there is nothing there I'd fill a bug report, because it has to be!!
good luck!
I like this definition of 'Wyrd', it's so Elite:
"The web of cause-and-effect that permeates the universe. The Germanic/North European equivalent of karma. Not to be understood as an externally-controlling fate but rather as the natural consequences of one's own actions; each person shapes their own wyrd. There are also family wyrd and national wyrd, which are shaped by the actions of the group as a whole. Wyrd, therefore, does not control our lives, it just responds to our own actions according to orlog, the fundamental law that governs the workings of our world."
Let me know if you need more wyrd, I might have some spare!!! haha, nice description btw
There were some Wyrd references in some of the books .... Randomious ! and the Lady of Fate ...
Hammer could have been "The Wanderer"
It all comes back to winter...
Hammer could have been "The Wanderer"
It all comes back to winter...
Hi,
With this post. Something came up my mind again.
Someone with UP. Drop it. Select it and then turn your ship direction where it is like UP spectrograph (Near at 5 O'Clock) Then honk your ADS.
This is nice and fast test that cost nothing (And probably won't change anything except that added line in "tested" -spreadsheet)
They have officially said that. Michael has said (I believe in one of the threadnauts) that lore from previous games is not reliable. I think he's also said here that we can't rely on everything in Galnet being true (sorry I can't be bothered trying to track down the quotes). Drew mentioned the war track as being confirmed in one of his blogs (http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/the-elephant-in-the-room/), and it wasn't a surprise to me at that time; as I said, I believe they'd said as much before.
You seem to be disappointed that it isn't clear what is or isn't canon/true in the lore. Why? Isn't it more realistic that we don't know with 100% certainty? Also I don't think it's wise to get your hopes up that the situation will change with Drew's involvement. I think things are the way they are because this is how FD wants it and I don't think Drew's involvement is going to change that (just result in more material).
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While watching the Olympic Games, I think I managed to crack it...
http://i.imgur.com/OlCTgjn.gif
We have to throw the Unknown Probe as far as possible!
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*leaves*
Uh oh, that's an octagon in the bottom right. Thargoids confirmed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody, but I believe MB has also stated that the UA is solved. That drawing an image of our ship and pointing to Merope was ''Its purpose''.
Which leads me to believe we should focus on the UP and the UP image solely.
Which leads me to believe we should focus on the UP and the UP image solely.
But what would this give us? It draws ships, so what?
And he said something about purpose of UA. That drawing ships what it's purpose.
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Draws ships to show that these things are aware of us, and pointing to Merope because that system is the centre of a big mystery.
An alternative question should be; Given that we have not solved the UP yet, why SHOULD the UA have any more information?
I believe solving the UP will give us everything we need to move forwards. My basis for that is that MB has stated as much.
I have just read through the UP tests spreadsheet. There is lots of good science being done with the UP, but recently we seem to be getting speculation in the requested tests with no obvious theory behind the request other than it hasn't been done yet, presumably in response to the lack of significant progress. Can I reiterate that theory exists to guide experiment, and experiment exists to support/advance/disprove theory.
So I was surprised to see that one test has not yet been done, as to me it is the most obvious: test29, honk the UP in the large crater on Merope 5C. I requested this in my Simples mk2 theory. To me the sonogram is a simple sequence diagram of instructions; that all UPs to date point to the centre of Merope5C gives the clearest hint possible that is the planetary body where the instructions should be followed. The small circle slightly offset from the centre of the sonogram circle represents the largest crater on 5C, the clearest landmark on that planet. I think the glyphs surrounding the circle serve two purposes, firstly representing PI as an instruction to use a logarithmic vertical scale so that the diagram is displayed as a circle, secondly representing the order of the actions to be take at 5C. To recap:
1) approach the large crater on 5C (i.e. along the radial line)
2) land inside the crater but offset South East from the centre, since the radial line clearly shows that offset ***
3) honk the UP
4) something hidden should become visible due to the EMP
*** I remember one sonogram (probably from thread 7) that clearly showed this small circle (which I interpret as representing the large crater) & the radial line leading to it with the offset . However I didn't store a copy of that diagram. I have been looking at the few sonograms I have kept & to me the offset looks to be about (0 to 1, -2) from the crater centre, but my confidence in that value is on the low side & I would really like to see that better diagram again if anyone remembers it!
I have found post #8436 by Cmdr Eugen Bold from thread7, & he reports the centre of the large crater at (19 -41), so my rough guess is that the UP should be honked at around (19 to 20, -43). Interestingly Cmdr Bold also reports in that post an unusual crater within the larger with a central peak at (19.4908, -43.0012). Hence I think the area around that peak should be heavily honked with a UP, PLEASE!!
Note: I think from the videos that the EMP effect is limited to around 250 metres so testing this hypothesis could require quite a lot of repetition in different locations around that area before the theory could be discounted.
Note2: I have no real confidence in any theory that says why the UP provides us with these instructions or who/what species its originators are, so I disclaim all responsibility if following this sequence releases a horde of angry Thargoids!!
So I was surprised to see that one test has not yet been done, as to me it is the most obvious: test29, honk the UP in the large crater on Merope 5C. I requested this in my Simples mk2 theory. To me the sonogram is a simple sequence diagram of instructions; that all UPs to date point to the centre of Merope5C gives the clearest hint possible that is the planetary body where the instructions should be followed. The small circle slightly offset from the centre of the sonogram circle represents the largest crater on 5C, the clearest landmark on that planet. I think the glyphs surrounding the circle serve two purposes, firstly representing PI as an instruction to use a logarithmic vertical scale so that the diagram is displayed as a circle, secondly representing the order of the actions to be take at 5C. To recap:
1) approach the large crater on 5C (i.e. along the radial line)
2) land inside the crater but offset South East from the centre, since the radial line clearly shows that offset ***
3) honk the UP
4) something hidden should become visible due to the EMP
*** I remember one sonogram (probably from thread 7) that clearly showed this small circle (which I interpret as representing the large crater) & the radial line leading to it with the offset . However I didn't store a copy of that diagram. I have been looking at the few sonograms I have kept & to me the offset looks to be about (0 to 1, -2) from the crater centre, but my confidence in that value is on the low side & I would really like to see that better diagram again if anyone remembers it!
I have found post #8436 by Cmdr Eugen Bold from thread7, & he reports the centre of the large crater at (19 -41), so my rough guess is that the UP should be honked at around (19 to 20, -43). Interestingly Cmdr Bold also reports in that post an unusual crater within the larger with a central peak at (19.4908, -43.0012). Hence I think the area around that peak should be heavily honked with a UP, PLEASE!!
Note: I think from the videos that the EMP effect is limited to around 250 metres so testing this hypothesis could require quite a lot of repetition in different locations around that area before the theory could be discounted.
Note2: I have no real confidence in any theory that says why the UP provides us with these instructions or who/what species its originators are, so I disclaim all responsibility if following this sequence releases a horde of angry Thargoids!!
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