UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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I don't know if it is known, or if it has something to do with the UP :

There is a string of military systems belonging to the federation from merope to the bubble :

1) Pleiade Sector IH-V C2-5
2) Pleiade Sector HR-W D1-57
3) Pleiade Sector JC-V D2-62
4) 42 N PERSEI
5) Hyades Sector AB-W B2-2
6) Arietis Sector XE-Z B4
 
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Because i'm the type to try things even if they don't make sense. I tried to draw the UP signals using the symbols around the circle. http://i.imgur.com/jnEjVLt.png
I had very little method, but if the circle image was a clue to position and the purr combinations that aren't in the image are organization, you can make drawings without needing an order. In theory. No idea if that's what is happening here or not.

Edit: I drew out -|- -|- -|| -|- -|| -|| --|
 
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I've had a thought, mere idle speculation than solid idea


Since engineers came out, a lot of systems in the barnard's loop area have been permit locked, but I've flown around the loop a couple of times before and saw no locked systems, this shows that someone is locking us out of those
systems for an unknown reason, but you need the unknown permit to get in ... a UP .. has anyone tried to jump to one of those locked systems with a Unknown Probe on board because maybe, just maybe, that symbol embedded in the audio does not actually represent anything in the physical world, but is the tone needed to gain entry to the locked systems

Bill

<<<chilling out with beer
 
So I've been running the audio through various shortwave decoders with very little success to try and determine if there was a further message. Mostly it just spits out garbage but with the audio on loop I started to notice a pattern. There appears to be a preamble and then four sections.

The software I used was downloaded from https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldigi/files/

The Op Mode is set to RTTY-75W

fldigi.jpg
 
Still on holidays but reading every post.

1) We've decoded part of it because we're still missing to decode the UP transmission: the purrs, whose key is the drawing.
2) Then we're missing all the left part from the sphere: the one I've translated into a tune (see FP). Perhaps it's not a tune but it means something we do not understand.
3) a free floater will give us something more for sure.

On the point of decoding the message, I have updated my findings on using the three lines as navigation markers. They do not match Merope 5C, so I suspect the middle panel is not Merope 5C - the purpose of the three lines for finding a location on a body is too good to ignore for navigation. It is also helpful that a player can see these orbit lines while in SC and make the connection in game while flying and land at that precise location.

I have updated my original post https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/276077-UAs-Barnacles-and-other-mysteries-Thread-8-The-Canonn/page414?p=4320914&viewfull=1#post4320914 with this updated measuring. I figure we are looking for a world which has an orbital inclination of +/-106.6 degrees or +/-73.4 degrees. If someone else can independently verify these angles between the "45 degree" line and the "30 degree"/"60 degree" lines on the message, that would be helpful.

Reading the map this way, it looks more like the Corrupted Flight Plan scenario: The first panel, maybe which platform to launch from - have not worked it out yet :) The middle panel: maybe the launch time and location (both can be worked out quite accurately from the conjunction of the orbital planes) and the third panel contains the destination (badly corrupted). As the UP points to Merope 5C, I can speculate the third panel is Merope 5C, not the middle panel.

As for MB stating "decoding the rest of the message" I think that might have to do with the characters written in the message under the "navigation data" - We probably don't need deeper sound analysis as we already have lots to solve on the image we have.

Someone posted quite a few posts ago, that when he/she phase shifted the message, the corrupted data on the third panel disappeared, revealing the fairly clean more faint image underneath. To me it looks like writing, perhaps nine characters across. I don't know how to clean up the image and brighten the underlying characters in the message, but if someone has the skill and a little time to spare, it would be helpful to see.

The UP sounds/tones could be the UP singing to itself the destination galactic co-ordinates to remind itself where it is going. I do the same thing on long journeys to stop going insane. They way we set up our human galactic co-ordinates is with Sol as 0,0,0 with the bearing to the central black hole of the galaxy. It might be the UP does the same to work out where to go. For example, someone mentioned the sounds make up a triple digit number when translated from binary. A three-digit number could be the galactic co-ords of Merope 5C (in UP units). Even though we don't know the units, from this we can still get the bearing. I don't know if the binary translation of the tones to numbers are right, but something like that may be promising.

Ok to sum up: If the third panel is Merope 5C, and the markings are characters which match the sound sequence from the UP so we can translate the sounds to characters to galactic co-ordinates, then the characters on the middle panel could be translated into numbers which may make up the galactic co-ordinates of the origin. That system should have a world which has the correct orbital inclination to then identify a precise location to land on.
 
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I've scanned the first page but can't see this has been tried, sorry if it has although I follow this thread every day I can't keep up.

the numbers around the image are 1234, the next in sequence being 5

there are 2 ring parts possibly in the top right corner, call them A and B, the next in sequence being C

ie we have 5C, which the probe also points to. Perhaps this is one in the same clue in case we didnt work out they were pointing at Merope 5C.

In any case, now the planet is identified by the surrounding symbols, the middle image defines the location.

The two lines protruding from the sphere could symbolise something that hit the planet, like a meteor.

The precise location could therefore be defined by the line running from circumference to the centre, with the crater orientated to the bottom left on approach.

Too late and too far to try myself, but if anyone finds anything in this area dont forget who told you!

Good night
 
I've had a thought, mere idle speculation than solid idea


Since engineers came out, a lot of systems in the barnard's loop area have been permit locked, but I've flown around the loop a couple of times before and saw no locked systems, this shows that someone is locking us out of those
systems for an unknown reason, but you need the unknown permit to get in ... a UP .. has anyone tried to jump to one of those locked systems with a Unknown Probe on board because maybe, just maybe, that symbol embedded in the audio does not actually represent anything in the physical world, but is the tone needed to gain entry to the locked systems

Bill

<<<chilling out with beer
Well honking DS with permit system locked? Cool, but which one?


Looking at spectrograph again I see three explanations:

1. Merope map+instructions
Merope and its huge crater should be the location. Getting Multiple UAs to "charge" the transmission (like FSD trouble Jaques had) and firing DS at UP might do the trick to get something done. E.g. get uncloaked/unlocked "transwarp" (hehe) gate at merope.
That is based on 1st part of message. Originally understood as "key symbol" there are also 4 disticint lines. 4 UAs?
1b. Last part of message might be just message to "send a signal". Also we might want to have 4 UAs and 1 UP in hold, trigger DS and jump to have misjump. Though I am a bit sceptical here.


2. Directional map plus instruction
Coming towards distance based on r. some 500 ly between Witch Head and California from Merope might be target system where we should fire DS at UP to get contacted. Okayish but destination is too flakey. Where is third dimension?


3. Well, coming to invisible systems.
Generally this one is very much unknown but it is compilation of hints. Spectrograph is the key.
Hint 1: "How do you know that thargoids are not already there?"
Hint 2: "There are systems invisible to some players/devs"
Hint 3: "Purpose informs the design"
We should be able to reach systems/location that occupy similar 3D space that bubble, but are out of our standard plane. E.g. different dimension (potential 5th D), witchspace or just hidden systems not defined by Star Mass.
That theory I would like to see, but so far I would only fabricate evidence based on the spectrograph. E.g. forth quadrant which is understood as Radius might also mean escaping the standard plane of human existence (our 4D space/dimension). Rest will be steps to get there.


I would like to point out that we try to read the circle in spectrograph clockwise but mathematically - as in standard way of transcribing quadrants it is
2 - 1
3 - 4



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More looking at spectrograph plus great wine:
First part is saying
- we have a cache and this is key to it.
- you have to be above the cache

Second is the location on Merope 5c or time or location based of above
- 9-12 o clock - planetary surface
- 12-3 o clock - signalling
- 3-6 o clock - in the centre of crater
- 6-9 o clock - ?? going to be looking out

Third is saying
- just honk it
 
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Okay - has anyone tried...

1) Take the central part of the UP signal analysis

2) Turn it transparent

3) Wrapped around a sphere just so, so that you can rotate said sphere in Blender for example and see if - like in the story Contact - it turns the blobs/patterns around the UP "sphere+1,2,3,4" into somee meaningful image?

Kind of like this - but in a competent manner...

KH9zSEo.jpg


That's as far as I can get with my extreme noob knowledge of Blender.

My thinking is that perhaps the "sphere + 1,2,3,4" is a message indicating how to turn that spectral analysis image into something visually meaningful.

Maybe someone clever and competent with Blender or some other 3D package can try this?

Regards o7
 
http://i.imgur.com/KH9zSEo.jpg


Please dont scream noob at me but what do the icons to the left lower and right upper of the spectrogram represent? i see a Planetoid or a Gimbal style reference but what do the others mean? Also there looks to be some Chatter of sorts in the spectrogram, perhaps a language filter in there?

p.s i mean the Far left and far right.. the thing that looks like a hook or claw.
 
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Ahhh sods. UP lost.

Due to a bug I think. Scooped it up in my SRV, nothing appeared in the cargo, literally just disappeared into nowhere. :(

Well I am assuming it's a bug and not some ability of the UP.

Was trying to line up a nice UA/UP shot.

[video=youtube;4yksW0T-TgA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yksW0T-TgA[/video]

Oh well. :(
 
Why cant we just make the UA sing and then the UP finds us? That would be better than having to search everywhere and find the UP. Maybe that's what crazy Jaques was talking about - "they sing and then they find you"?

Well my UA's get let out of their box for singing in lots of places, but never have the UP found me to join in :(

What Would Jaques Do?

Probably give them booze. Lots of people do like to sing when they are drunk...

That's it, my UA and I are going on an alcohol fueled, good old fashioned pub crawl!

Now taking location and song requests. Preferably stations that have a setup for Karaoke and plenty of good drinks. Last I was drunk in the docking bays one of the maintenance crew threw a wrench at me and scratched my tinfoil helmet! Didnt think my singing was that bad :s

Offensive language and bad singing may offend some viewers, viewer discretion is advised.

Fly safe o7
 
Ahhh sods. UP lost.

Due to a bug I think. Scooped it up in my SRV, nothing appeared in the cargo, literally just disappeared into nowhere. :(

Well I am assuming it's a bug and not some ability of the UP.

Was trying to line up a nice UA/UP shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yksW0T-TgA

Oh well. :(


i thought you knew it ... it's a well know bug just reported long ago.
pity for your loss.. i still hope to find the up free in space for anyone
 
i thought you knew it ... it's a well know bug just reported long ago.
pity for your loss.. i still hope to find the up free in space for anyone

No what's the bug? Do you know any specifics about what causes it, if they replace it would kinda like to avoid anything similar in future if possible.
 
Why cant we just make the UA sing and then the UP finds us? That would be better than having to search everywhere and find the UP. Maybe that's what crazy Jaques was talking about - "they sing and then they find you"?

Well my UA's get let out of their box for singing in lots of places, but never have the UP found me to join in :(

What Would Jaques Do?

Probably give them booze. Lots of people do like to sing when they are drunk...

That's it, my UA and I are going on an alcohol fueled, good old fashioned pub crawl!

Now taking location and song requests. Preferably stations that have a setup for Karaoke and plenty of good drinks. Last I was drunk in the docking bays one of the maintenance crew threw a wrench at me and scratched my tinfoil helmet! Didnt think my singing was that bad :s

Offensive language and bad singing may offend some viewers, viewer discretion is advised.

Fly safe o7

Given the current impasse maybe we should just have a massive UA rally to raise morale.
Everyone bring all their UAs to the same place and drop them all for a jolly good sing song.

Maybe near a Farragut to protest federal shennanigans.
 
Just flying around Merope has anyone else got orbit lines for Merope 5 around Merope main star.
Im on XBOX and according to this Merope 5 isn't orbiting the main star.
So I flew on an even plane of the orbiting planets to Merope 5 to see the difference in orbits.
Merope 6 orbits Merope 5 on the same plane the other planets orbit the main star,
Merope 5c orbits Merope 5 almost exactly 90 degrees to this orbital plane.
As I approach Merope 5 the rings are face on to me so it looks like a target.

more investigations ongoing.
Can someone clarify I'm not being an idiot in understanding the orbits.
 
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