Well that was predictable.
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Well that was predictable.
We're happy to help test this - people would be interested but we need info.
Just saying "You need to go to a special place at a special time." will not make everyone stop, abandon everything else and crown you king of the world. People have been saying similar things all the way through about going to certain places or certain times and doing stuff, so far nothing has stood up to any testing.
We'd be interested if we had something to test, so help us help you by testing the hypothesis
Actually... the first barnacle was, I think, found on Merope 5C without any hints because I remember rewarding the two French Commanders who found it.
There was a hint in Galnet, which was solved quickly, but it came after the 5C discovery.
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The interest was there 3 weeks ago, and people have been all over the Merope system and the crater and found nowt. It also doesn't make a lot of sense that it should beam such an image at us - especially given that we've been told that the pointing at 5c and the image are not necessarily related.
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I fairly certain it was confirmed after the fact that they had scheduled the galnet article to go out because we had taken longer to find the crashed Anaconda than expected and then the day before the article was going to go live, someone randomly stumbled on one.
Possibly modern digital modulation techniques?
http://electronicdesign.com/communications
http://electronicdesign.com/communications
I am fairly confident it does. I described how it can work in an earlier post: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/276077-UAs-Barnacles-and-other-mysteries-Thread-8-The-Canonn/page414?p=4320914&viewfull=1#post4320914
I quite liked how the three lines form the necessary conjunction to identify a precise location on the surface of the world. By using the lines as described, and approaching the world directly toward the body when the two orbital inclinations form flat planes, you will always have a fixed location, regardless of the time of year. So, if a message contains navigation information which is not previously agreed to (ie: we get a message without any reference points) the first thing to look for is the common frame of reference. With these three lines and lining them up, we get a fixed location at a fixed time. ie: Time 0. There is, of course, another point (the opposite side of the world) which also fits this conjunction, but I believe the "outer" point is the location referred, but that is not confirmed by the data yet
Oh yes, one other thing that tells me the three lines are for navigation - when approaching from the reverse side, the map stays the same, but you turn your ship upside down. This will then match the second line, and still point to the same points on the world. Magic, eh?Having said all that - Merope 5C does not match the lines correctly. I think it is unlikely to be a measuring error, as the difference is quite large. Merope 5C has an orbital inclination of -75.80, but I measure the prime angle (the "30 degree" one) to be -81.57 +/-0.35 degrees. If this is navigation data, and my measurement is correct, then the map is not Merope 5C, so I am on a mapping tour to find the orbital inclination of the worlds around Merope. I fear I might have to search beyond the shell, but I don't have any other data to drive me in a particular direction. I hope UPs are "short range"
I hope that helps
The clues from the art book are hinting that this is indeed thargoid design and not necessarily human design at all. Or some other alien race.
Also the UA as expected drops pods. What I thought it dropped was the UP's. The UP pods grow or "inflate". This is why I think we need to search INSIDE the 150LY shell for these things.
Also on the left hand side of the sonogram it always looked to me to be a quasi picture of the UA itself. So its like telling us the message header is for the UA, here is the message, and this is the end of the message. 3 parts.
Also the UA as expected drops pods. What I thought it dropped was the UP's. The UP pods grow or "inflate". This is why I think we need to search INSIDE the 150LY shell for these things.
Also on the left hand side of the sonogram it always looked to me to be a quasi picture of the UA itself. So its like telling us the message header is for the UA, here is the message, and this is the end of the message. 3 parts.
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..and they normally come back, and are forgiven (mostly)
I was there at 12am EST like you said. Nothing happened friend. Nothing showed up. Maybe the timing was off.
o7 Commanders,
I've been lurking here and thinking about this mystery for a while now and although this may not bring any insight into the mystery, it could provide some direction for the search. Let's just say that the UA shell around Merope is like a neutral perimeter, scanning incoming and outgoing activity and sending that information to ?Merope star? and the UP's are like relays for that information. Remember, these are extra-terrestrial organic/artificial objects we are dealing with, so their purpose, albeit similar to human made objects, can't be directly the same. Why the UP would emit the EMP blast when scanned, I have yet to think about, however I think that it's a natural response (like plants releasing chemicals to deter animals from eating them when under attack).
So where do we search?
I noticed that someone mentioned that the convoys thought they had a UA onboard when in fact it was a UP. From this, I want to guess that their ships don't have the same sensors that ours do to find these things and determine the differences automatically. But why would that be? Anyways, if they are finding UAs for testing, where are they finding them? If it's the same place as us then I want to say we make an effort to clear out ALL the systems around Merope within 130Ly. There should be some kind of database that we can upload our search progress to, if each one of us searches 10 systems we could at the very least know more about UA spawns, and remove the possibility of free floating UP spawns in that bubble and focus our efforts elsewhere.
I'll be getting a DBX to do my searching and update when I've made any personal progress.
Tokhashi out. o7
I've been lurking here and thinking about this mystery for a while now and although this may not bring any insight into the mystery, it could provide some direction for the search. Let's just say that the UA shell around Merope is like a neutral perimeter, scanning incoming and outgoing activity and sending that information to ?Merope star? and the UP's are like relays for that information. Remember, these are extra-terrestrial organic/artificial objects we are dealing with, so their purpose, albeit similar to human made objects, can't be directly the same. Why the UP would emit the EMP blast when scanned, I have yet to think about, however I think that it's a natural response (like plants releasing chemicals to deter animals from eating them when under attack).
So where do we search?
I noticed that someone mentioned that the convoys thought they had a UA onboard when in fact it was a UP. From this, I want to guess that their ships don't have the same sensors that ours do to find these things and determine the differences automatically. But why would that be? Anyways, if they are finding UAs for testing, where are they finding them? If it's the same place as us then I want to say we make an effort to clear out ALL the systems around Merope within 130Ly. There should be some kind of database that we can upload our search progress to, if each one of us searches 10 systems we could at the very least know more about UA spawns, and remove the possibility of free floating UP spawns in that bubble and focus our efforts elsewhere.
I'll be getting a DBX to do my searching and update when I've made any personal progress.
Tokhashi out. o7
I don't get it - what's all that strange colored terrain, and who ever heard of a "green" surface? :S
It can't be a real world, not a crater in sight.
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i read a few pages back that when a UA is destroyed and produces fragments the feds show up and attack, as mentioned above could this be because the fragments turn in to UP's perhaps? has anyone tried that?
Ozric
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I accidentally rammed a UA and broke it. nothing happened as I was hanging around scooping up the fragments.
Ozric
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Don't think the feds turn up just because you destroy a UA. I haven't shot one, but a couple have accidentally hit my ship and the feds didn't turn up then... How are you proposing we turn the fragments into a UP?
Personally I hope to eventually get some corrosion-resistant cargo racks, and the start my own.... "captive breeding" program...
... is that the right term?
I think there might be something in the theory, but I didn't understand the 30 and 60 degree explanations.
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Good news!
Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.
UP replaced, back in action again.
Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.
UP replaced, back in action again.
Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
well i was kind of hoping that they would just turn in to an UP, like inflate in to one or something of the like, i was kind of thinking that if the pods on the bottom of the UA is actually a seed of some sort, i don't really know i was just putting it out there to see if anyone has experienced anything like it, i think i have been reading to many Tin foil theories and gone a little space crazy [wacko]
I'll go back to sleep now [zZzZz]
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