UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Ozric

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Rixaeton said:
Personally I hope to eventually get some corrosion-resistant cargo racks, and the start my own.... "captive breeding" program...

... is that the right term?
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I don't know but if they catch you "breeding" them, there might be trouble...

Oh by the way I was away, how did your thing go? The one where the timing was going to open the magic portal and hidden stations?

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Th3 0utKa5t said:
well i was kind of hoping that they would just turn in to an UP, like inflate in to one or something of the like, i was kind of thinking that if the pods on the bottom of the UA is actually a seed of some sort, i don't really know i was just putting it out there to see if anyone has experienced anything like it, i think i have been reading to many Tin foil theories and gone a little space crazy [wacko]

I'll go back to sleep now [zZzZz]
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No, one of the fragments I was trying to position myself to get a really good close up picture of one and didn't realise they also naturally expire. Both fragments went poof.
 

PeLucheuh

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bitstorm said:
Good news!

Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.

UP replaced, back in action again.

Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
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Awesome!
 

CMDR Zulu

CMDR Zulu
bitstorm said:
Good news!

Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.

UP replaced, back in action again.

Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
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If your going to honk at 5c can you do an extra honk with a view of the UP lighting up with the nebula in the back round? I'm curious about the light it emits affecting the view. If not it ok, I understand you're very busy as one of the few UP holders.
 

Rixaeton

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yowl said:
I think there might be something in the theory, but I didn't understand the 30 and 60 degree explanations.
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It's after midnight here.. but I might be able to put up some quick sketches:

This first one is my rough out of what the various lines mean. Ignore the co-ordinates and bearings scratched all around it... and look at the circle in the middle. I have extended the lines for the left "30 degrees" and "60 degrees" to the left, and the "45 degrees" line to the right. I call them that as they are close to those angles (but are not exactly, the "45 degree" is actually 50.19) The important measurement is the extension of the "45 degree" line from the bottom right up to the upper left, and measuring the angle the "30 degree" line makes with that extended line. This angle is the orbital inclination, relative to the "45 degree" line
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I then transposed that onto tracing paper so I could hold it up on the monitor and see the orbital lines and rings through the paper, and line them up to get a precise location for the conjunction.
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The above is a scan of tracing paper, so it is a bit hard to read. (sorry)

With this paper held on the screen, I can see the orbital lines (centre to lower left corner) and rings of Merope 5 (centre to lower right) through the paper. I then move the ship so the the lines on the paper match the orbit and rings, and when they line up, I am pointing directly at where the map says to go.

I took David Braben at his word, and used pencil and paper to work it out :)

As I said, it is after midnight, so I may not be very coherent right now - and I have to go to work tomorrow (or is it today?)

Please, if you need to ask more questions, I don't mind trying to answer them when I can... maybe when I am more awake [zZzZz]
 

Ozric

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Ozric
Rixaeton said:
Please, if you need to ask more questions, I don't mind trying to answer them when I can... maybe when I am more awake [zZzZz]
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You didn't answer mine :D You said that a couple of weeks ago you would be able to prove your theory as your "alignment" would happen. What happened?
 

Rixaeton

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Ozric said:
I don't know but if they catch you "breeding" them, there might be trouble...

Oh by the way I was away, how did your thing go? The one where the timing was going to open the magic portal and hidden stations?
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heh - no magic portal... that was a bit of a stretch I will admit :)

But I still think the three lines make excellent navigation markers - but they don't match Merope 5C. Merope 5c's orbital inclination is -75.80, but I make the map to be -81.59. It was very instructive to try out the navigation to identify a point on Merope 5C. Even though it is not the same angle, the practice of lining up the ship with the orbital planes and rings was good practice.

In a way it is a relief that nothing has been found on or around Merope 5C, as the mismatch lines sort of back that up - there is nothing to find on Merope 5C. I guess the probe points to it, but had not arrived yet, so nothing to find?

Now I only need to find world which is has an orbital plane of -81.59 +/-0.35 and I will be all set :)

If you see one like that, please let me know - I promise to give it a good home :)
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
pocketmoon said:
Are UP's effected by gravity in the same way that wreckage is ? If you drop them in orbit do they fall towards the planet?
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Yes, example here, can see the trails :

[video=youtube;zenhzYYfAG0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenhzYYfAG0[/video]
 
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nikos

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Check out page 55 of the newly released digital art book: "an unknown artefact". The image contains details of a UA we have never seen before...
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Rixaeton said:
I have extended the lines for the left "30 degrees" and "60 degrees" to the left, and the "45 degrees" line to the right. I call them that as they are close to those angles (but are not exactly, the "45 degree" is actually 50.19)
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When you say it's 50.19 are you sure about that, did you measure on the black/white image going around, or on an actual spectrogram?
 
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rizal72

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bitstorm said:
Good news!

Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.

UP replaced, back in action again.

Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
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Britain! I already did the first test with the UP, both from orbit and ground. But a double check is always good.
 

Rixaeton

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bitstorm said:
When you say it's 50.19 are you sure about that, did you measure on the black/white image going around, or on an actual spectrogram?
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I'm glad the UP vanishing bug has been recognised, and you have your UP again. :)

For the angle, I measured it from a print of the spectrogram as shown in my previous posting. It would be nice to get an independent measurement to check if I have it right. I think it should be OK, as the dimensions of the circle match vertically and horizontally, so it should not be distorted (I hope)

While I am not asleep yet (gah) I was wondering if you have the time and/or inclination to see what the UP thinks about this canyon:
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I am interested if there is any change in the sounds the UP makes when in orbit above this canyon, and if it sounds "happier" in this canyon compared to other points on Merope 5C. I suspect it won't make any difference, but if it does it would be an interesting data point - that canyon is pretty much where the rings and orbit conjunction location is.

only if you feel up to it though: UPs and time are precious, and this sort of data is a "nice to have".

BTW: The next conjunction will be in about 1.5 days from now - we are nearly at "full rings" today, so the "rings as a line" will be in the next day and a half or so.
 

Shaewyn

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A while ago (like 200 pages ago, I extracted the left and right sides of the spectrogram and tried overlaying them on the centre. Unfortunately, the post seemed to have gotten buried in the mod queue for new posters :/

Here it is again:

http://imgur.com/a/GiDWY

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Bungalo

Bungalo
bitstorm said:
Good news!

Support were able to confirm the UP deployment then immediate crash.

UP replaced, back in action again.

Will do those two requested tests tonight, spreadsheet row 32 "Honk a UP at the huge crater on 5c" and row 74 "Scan an unexplored planet/star using the Detailed Surface Scanner in close vicinity to / through the UP. See if the UP reacts to the activity."
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Lucky, support is currently giving me the run around. If they don't replace it after the netlog I will be unhappy.

Find a system near merope 10-15ish ly jump range that has the same rate of purrs as merope. There are more purrs in other systems beside merope. I believe that it purrs less in systems that have already been "examined" by the UP. Im wondering if there isn't a trail of systems that respond like merope does that will lead us to where/what the UPs are searching for

A bread crumb trail of systems with fewer purrs if you will. I've only seen two rates and only merope has had the slower rate.

This behavior change is a solid lead, one of the best ones we've had. There's got to be another system(s) with meropes abnormal purr rate. We just need to find it.
 
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CMDR Sheehy

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I was inspired to listen to a certain musical earlier...

Now it's "Cylinder following cylinder, and no one and nothing can stop them now..."

I wonder what the 34th century version of Thunder Child looks like?
 

Ozric

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anthonycsheehy said:
I was inspired to listen to a certain musical earlier...

Now it's "Cylinder following cylinder, and no one and nothing can stop them now..."

I wonder what the 34th century version of Thunder Child looks like?
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In another thread a while ago, Drew made a comment which spiraled into a similar vein and ended with me posting a link to Forever Autumn. Then I listened to it all again and posted Farewell Thunderchild in here :p it was just after the Feds put the capital ship above the barnacles ;)
 
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