UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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dynamicbob

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MrDobilina said:
I think what they've done is scale down the first contact and make it seem more like a skirmish war between outlying colonies and unknown agressors. Some larger corps got to grips with what was going on and POTENTIALLY unleashed the toxin in the first games as a preventative measure. But this is partially speculation given the galnet article only has some detail.
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Col sector 70 being permit locked comes to mind, i think single encounters with scout ships at first might be possible. gotta rmember Fdev will at the end of the day move very slowly on these things firstly
 

CMDR_Mogriax

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I see no one has posted pictures of the new sound spectrogram of the latest UP recordings. here is mine with audacity and sonic visualizer.

Audacity;

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Sonic visualizer ;
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Edelgard von Rhein

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Congratulations on finding free-floating UPs! I'm surprised that they were not found sooner, given that many people take an interest in Ammonia Worlds. I do close flybys to get a screenshot or two (and to check the night side for lights... just in case) and I'm not the only one, so perhaps it's just certain planets?
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In case it helps, I've gone through the Ammonia Worlds I have recorded over the last few months, since ~May time (sadly my screenshot records prior to this were lost after my OS became corrupted and needed to be reinstalled and I did not record many on paper). I have one in the Pleiades Sector and several in other barnacle-hosting nebulae, which I'll share here in case anyone wants to check them out as well:
  • Pleiades Sector IR-W d1-55 6 (3074 Ls)
  • California Sector JC-V c2-2 1 (1715 Ls)
  • California Sector BA-A e6-7 (251 Ls)
  • Witch Head Sector DL-Y d9 8 (2451 Ls)
 

Digital Dan

Digital Dan
CookieJarviz said:
Guys. Lightning wing just found this out. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzRSnoWGeARTMFVScXJGc2hVS2s/view?usp=sharing its a sound it makes if you go in front of it.
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If I'm right, then that's the end of the 5th line of the message (after the 5th wail). It seems to be the same as the other recordings I've heard so far.

Here's the bit I'm talking about (in bold):
wail |-- -|- --- ||| / -|- --| ||| |-| --| -|- -|| # --| ||| |-| --- --| -|- -|- / --| |-- -|- -|- --| # --| ||| |-| -|- --| --- / -|| |-- -|| # --| ||| |-| ---

Or in binary:
wail 100 010 000 111 / 010 001 111 101 001 010 011 # 001 111 101 000 001 010 010 / 001 100 010 010 001 # 001 111 101 010 001 000 / 011 100 011 # 001 111 101 000
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jmanis said:
So here's what's bugging me.

UA spawns are Threat 4
UP spawns are Threat 2

UAs have been shown only to degrade your ship.
UPs do the same, *and* can shut your ship down when honked.

This doesn't equate.
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I don't believe "threat level" actually means threat level, otherwise those 'degraded emissions threat 0' USS that contain waiting pirates would be a higher threat number. I think "threat level" is actually a measure of the electronic emissions level, which ties in with stronger emissions=more ships in the USS=more threat potential, in which case I think the UA is sending out more powerful emissions than UP (until it is honked). That makes sense if UA is a wide-area sensor detecting ships at 1km whereas the UP is doing its focused sensor wail then transmitting back to 5C on a tightly focussed beam that the ship's computer can't see when assessing the threat level.

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Allant Doran said:
Pure speculation on my part, and framed as a question, but what do you think the chances are that 'Oresians' and 'Klaxians' are going to be retconned away for the purpose of using a modern Elite game to rewrite the Thargoid story? ie: We start at a point where Thargoids and Humans are at war, nothing else has ever been said between us, and start from there to begin the relationship anew?
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I want to invest my savings in corporations investigating chemicals to dissolve polymers and anything related to mycoid!

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Patau82 said:
Only thing about Obsidian Orbital is it was already shut down by UAs and fixed with meta alloys so may now be immune
due to its location it was the first station shut down by UAs so we can expect it to be the first effected by UPs as long as its not immune
Users of OO might not be too happy if it gets shut down again, Canonn Institute is the place to sell for the "responsible" scientist ........ thats if we have any :D
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Well if Thargoids invade via the Pleiades then Maia is going to be the first to get hit, so I wouldn't worry too much. Try selling at Darnelle's Progress? Maybe Palin wants them?
 

Kloopy

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Digital Dan said:
I get a slightly different transcription to yours. Differences are:
- ? after the first wail sounds like a clear high high low to me (--| in Probese, or 001 in binary) and there's no gap before the next part (like after the later wails)
- there are different size gaps or spaces, sticking with your alphabet I've used "/" as Probese for a short space and " " for a long space
- on line 3 (ending 330) I think that should be 310

So this is my attempt at transcribing it:

Probese:

"wail" = the wailing sound
"-" = high tweet (and 0 on spectrogram key)
"|" = low tweet (and 1 on spectrogram key)
" " = long space
"/" = short space
"#" = separator (chittering tweety sound)

wail --| ||| -|- -|| # --| ||| |-| ---
wail --| -|- -|| --| # -|| ||| -|-
wail -|- --| ||- |-| |-| # -|| --| ---
wail -|| -|- -|- --- --| # -|| --| ---
wail |-- -|- --- ||| / -|- --| ||| |-| --| -|- -|| # --| ||| |-| --- --| -|- -|- / --| |-- -|- -|- --| # --| ||| |-| -|- --| --- / -|| |-- -|| # --| ||| |-| ---

Binary:
wail 001 111 010 011 # 001 111 101 000
wail 001 010 011 001 # 011 111 010
wail 010 001 110 101 101 # 011 001 000
wail 011 010 010 000 001 # 011 001 000
wail 100 010 000 111 / 010 001 111 101 001 010 011 # 001 111 101 000 001 010 010 / 001 100 010 010 001 # 001 111 101 010 001 000 / 011 100 011 # 001 111 101 000

Octal:
wail 1723#1750
wail 1 231#372
wail 2 1655#310
wail 3 2201#310
wail 4 207/2175123#1750 122/14221#175 210/343#1750

Decimal:
wail 979#1000
wail 1 153#250
wail 2 941#200
wail 3 1153#200
wail 4 135/588371#1000 82/6289#125 136/227#1000
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Fantastic. You're absolutely right. Thank you for correcting me. How did I miss the first 001 especially?! :)

I think we still need a recording from other systems to compare this to.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
gaplant said:
Here's a transcription of Mykl Atrum's recording of the FFUP signal- the new one you get when you look at it from the end that points to Merope.

as little interpretation as possible- I tried to just write what I heard as the different sounds in the signal. Anyone who has heard it knows it's a crunchier fuzzier signal than the others, with echo, reverb, wobbly frequency shifts etc. I'm sure other people have other takes on it and I encourage people to post them.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQ5JPxUN-W3Dfn5OWxH_AzunGTex6uIuOrd7-kKC5Rg/edit?usp=sharing

sections = sounds after each howl
. = the fast dits before each set of three longer tones
h = high tone
l = low tone
# = rising flangey sounding chirp tone, as heard after the 4th triplet tone in the file


section 1 - 4 has 1 # sound per section
section 5 has 3 of them


section 1
HOWL
..hlh..lll..hlh..hll#hhl..lll..lhl..hhh


section 2
howl
..hhl..hlh..hll..hhl#hll..lll..hlh


section 3
howl
..hlh ..hhl ..llh ..lhl..lhl # ..hll ..hhl ..hhh


old style faint tone triplet barely audible here- (hlh)


section 4
howl
..hll ..hlh ..hlh ..hhh ..hhl # ..hll ..hhl ..hhh


section 5
howl
..lhh ..hlh ..hhh ..lll ..hlh ..hhl ..lll ..lhl ..hhl ..hlh ..hll # ..hhl ..lll ..lhl ..hhh pause ..hhl ..hlh ..hlh ..hhl ..lhh ..hlh ..hlh ..hhl # ..hhl ..lll ..lhl pause ..hlh ..hhl ..hhh ..hll ..lhh ..hll # ..hhl ..lll ..lhl ..hhh
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I made two quick conversion of the High/Lows to Octal and Decimal.

H=1 L=0


section 1
Howl
..101..000..101..100#110..000..010..111
=(Oct) 5054 # 6027
=(Dec) 2604 # 3095




section 2
Howl
..110..101..100..110#100..000..101
=(Oct) 6546 # 405
=(Dec) 3430 # 261




section 3
Howl
..101 ..110 ..001 ..010..010 # ..100 ..110 ..111
=(Oct) 56122 # 457
=(Dec) 23634 # 303




o0d sty0e faint tone trip0et bare0y audib0e 1ere- (101)




section 4
Howl
..100 ..101 ..101 ..111 ..110 # ..100 ..110 ..111
=(Oct) 4576 # 467
=(Dec) 2430 # 311




section 5
Howl
..011 ..101 ..111 ..000 ..101 ..110 ..000 ..010 ..110 ..101 ..100 # ..110 ..000 ..010 ..111 pause ..110 ..101 ..101 ..110 ..011 ..101 ..101 ..110 # ..110 ..000 ..010 pause ..101 ..110 ..111 ..100 ..011 ..100 # ..110 ..000 ..010 ..111
=(Oct) 35705602654 # 6027 Pause 6556356 # 602 Pause 567434 # 6027
=(Dec) 4011263404 # 3095 Pause 1760494 # 386 Pause 192284 # 3095




H=0 L=1


section 1
Howl
..010..111..010..011#001..111..101..000
=(Oct) 2723 # 1750
=(Dec) 1491 # 1000




section 2
Howl
..001..010..011..001#011..111..010
=(Oct) 1231 # 372
=(Dec) 665 # 250




section 3
Howl
..010 ..001 ..110 ..101..101 # ..011 ..001 ..000
=(Oct) 21655 # 310
=(Dec) 9133 # 200




o1d sty1e faint tone trip1et bare1y audib1e here- (010)




section 4
Howl
..011 ..010 ..010 ..000 ..001 # ..011 ..001 ..000
=(Oct) 32201 # 310
=(Dec) 13441 # 200



section 5
Howl
..100 ..010 ..000 ..111 ..010 ..001 ..111 ..101 ..001 ..010 ..011 # ..001 ..111 ..101 ..000 pause ..001 ..010 ..010 ..001 ..100 ..010 ..010 ..001 # ..001 ..111 ..101 pause ..010 ..001 ..000 ..011 ..100 ..011 # ..001 ..111 ..101 ..000
=(Oct) 42072175123 # 175 Pause 12214221 # 175 Pause 210343 # 1750
=(Dec) 4578671187 # 125 Pause 2693265 # 125 Pause 69859 # 1000


As others have suggested, the H=0 and L=1 seem far more reasonable as all the 'after #' numbers are fractions of each other.
We have 1000, 250, 200 and 125. These relate to each other as 1, 1/4, 1/5 and 1/8.

There are no exceptions to this pattern. It looks quite solid.

Edit: DigiDan Nijaed me on the good part of the decoding. Good work.:)
 
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SpocksOddSocks

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Just spent over 30 minutes in orbit of an ammonia world 112ly from Merope (Mel 22 Sector HH-V d2-18) zero signal sources spawned. Not a definite negative, but I'm moving inwards.
 
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