UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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none of this (yet) tells us why they are interested/pointing to 5c though. They're clearly sending signals back there from Ammonia planets, but back WHERE?
I bet there is a base/station that we're supposed to see, that has never shown up cos their RNG is completely broken lol.
(gets back in the Scarab)
I bet there is a base/station that we're supposed to see, that has never shown up cos their RNG is completely broken lol.
(gets back in the Scarab)
(Scarab falls through ground, player dies).
Given the different structure of the last number group, and the sizes of the numbers involved, I concur.
Obvious thought is coordinates relative to the Merope system, perhaps; and perhaps measured, if not using the same coordinates as our Galmap, in terms of Merope 5's arrival point from Merope itself, or something like that?
Given the way that the 1,2,3 parts of the 'key' image do bear a resemblance to the things that are being broadcast in the first, second and third parts of the transmission; what could those two outer lines represent which require so many numbers?
Position is obvious - although a galactic position is only useful for the whole system. It'd need to have something that contains a local position, presumably relative to the primary star - so: the arrival point. That would mean x,y,z,w with w=arrival point.
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I love how so many people curse RNG but dice have been used in gaming for 5 thousand years!
Not necessarily. After all the creator sent you along a given path and he's receiving a communication coming from a direction crossing that path. The only data that is missing is how far along that path you are if the path is mostly radial. Even in that case, it might be useless to send the distance as the creator will have to follow the same path to reach the discovered system so when the other characteristics match he will know he's arrived.
You don't have to use x,y,z to find system, you can use distance and angle, so 3 big numbers in last section can be distanse from Merope Angle an Arrival point
i've been pondering the UP overnight, as one does.
I believe the UP is clearly probing planets, apparently looking for worlds capable of supporting ammonia-based life and sending back planetary information to Merope5C; it doesn't take a huge leap in logic to conclude what species may be involved, but whether the probe originator is a survivor of the original war or a related clan etc we cannot know.
Since the probe is looking for such worlds then the data stream should convey the essential parameters of that world and its location. I would therefore expect temperature, gravity, whether landable/atmospheric type, surface composition/materials, perhaps whether barneys present etc, and its coordinates. I don't see radius, tilt or other orbital parameters being very useful. Hence I would advise caution over the current decoding schema- it needs to be confirmed & should accord with the apparent purpose of the probe. This might change our view either of what parameters are being reported, or the purpose of the probe
now IF this is its purpose, then why does the sonogram image provide instructions on decoding the data? That would be absolutely superfluous since the recipients know how to decode it- they created it & sent it out to achieve its objective and are receiving its data. It only makes sense if instructions are provided for other beings on/near that planet to be able to decipher the data stream, & that doesn't make sense against any scenario I can think of. Hence I will go back to my previous theory- the sonogram image provides instructions to find the creators of the UP, therefore the data stream does not need to match up against the symbols on the image because they are not for that purpose.
So I still think there is a hidden base on Merope 5C and the sonogram image provides an easy visual guide how to find it, and I think it's in the small crater with the peak within the largest crater. Simples!
Absolutely. But we have a game based on very physical, measurable, accurate (with tweaks), modeled Universe. We have things that should be persistent and/or predictable, left to the roll of a dice. Is that ok? Would you put up with "TQS aims his/her railguns at the cobra, which is meters in front.... rolls a 2! it misses!". No, if you're aiming point blank, you expect to hit, or at least if you miss for there to be a logical reason (angle etc) why you missed. Same with everything else. I fully expect there to be a probe at XX planet, because everyone else says it's there. I go there. for four hours. nothing. And that isn't nothing "because I flew past it or went to the wrong side of the planet", it's nothing because the dice says so. That's unacceptable.
Keep the dice for snakes and ladders, give us persistence and certainty (or at least predictability) in Elite. Anyway, all that's off-topic...
Why 69.859? Needs to be 0.227. Or i'm wrong?
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neutron stars?
Sending back to 5c yes. Receiving station: likely.
Something we can actually find? I don't think so.
You'd need multiple receiving stations on the planet to receive a signal potentially from anywhere, because there'd be points where the planet itself, or other local bodies, obscure the transmission.
I might be thinking about it too much, but I'm thinking Merope 5C is purely the 3d part of a 4 or or higher dimensional location in Witchspace where the listeners are currently hiding.
This is beyond my paygrade, and is probably wrong in many ways...
Eg - if witchspace is 4D, then it is a line allowing movement in 1 dimension where every position can also have a 3D component, then any fixed position in Witchspace can also be anchored to a physical location outside of it. So, if you want to hide, you place yourself somewhere on that line, at a physical location close to where you think you need to be.
Interestingly, if you have capability to do that, then you might presumably also be able to intercept transmissions targeted at the physical location which forms part of your 4D location. So - the upshot is, there might not be any physical receiving station that we can find in 5C or in Merope, because, although it's there, we can't actually reach it. Unless we're in witchspace...
Me and my friend are on xbox right now we have a free floating UP, we discovered that if you use the de-bug camera and if you sit it in front of the larger head faceing Merop it makes a different sound each time.
I will be straight on this one : for me, listening to the audio did not allowed me to transcribe it. because 1) I'm bad at it 2) the sounds are messy 3) there is little sounds between the octal numbers making things harder.
E.g. the zeroes in 000 sounds quite different from the ones in 001.
The way I went at it is with a spectrogram, 2048 bits, may 3.2K Hz. With that I was able to "read" things in a much easier way.
With regard to the bounty hunter clue, the only bounty hunter I can find that is named in Glanet is Ziva Eschel from the book Elite Dangerous: Wanted
Haven't read it yet but I will now!
Galnet article: Portrait of a Bounty Hunter - https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/10-AUG-3301
She seems to have a facebook page too.. https://www.facebook.com/public/Ziva-Eschel
EDIT - Also had it pointed out to me that Tod 'the blaster' McQuinn was a bounty hunter before he became an engineer.
Tod 'The Blaster' McQuinn
Tod McQuinn earned his nickname ‘The Blaster’ from a successful season in the CQC Arena. Since then he's garnered further fame as a bounty hunter, flying a Fer-de-Lance with seriously overpowered multi-cannons. He's always happy to help fellow bounty hunters. For his current venture he's teamed up with some of his old CQC friends to form a custom modification enterprise.
Haven't read it yet but I will now!
Galnet article: Portrait of a Bounty Hunter - https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/10-AUG-3301
She seems to have a facebook page too.. https://www.facebook.com/public/Ziva-Eschel
EDIT - Also had it pointed out to me that Tod 'the blaster' McQuinn was a bounty hunter before he became an engineer.
Tod 'The Blaster' McQuinn
Tod McQuinn earned his nickname ‘The Blaster’ from a successful season in the CQC Arena. Since then he's garnered further fame as a bounty hunter, flying a Fer-de-Lance with seriously overpowered multi-cannons. He's always happy to help fellow bounty hunters. For his current venture he's teamed up with some of his old CQC friends to form a custom modification enterprise.
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I've ruled out Eafots NA-Z c16-0 as a possibility.
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