But as Tuub T Tute pointed out, without safeguards and some forethought its open to massive abuse. At the bare minimum it needs to be only for a ship without cargo (handwavium: whoever is doing the transporting has no insurance liability for cargo), and subject to realistic time/financial constraints (e.g. yes you can summon your ship from 55,000ly away, but it will take 5000 jumps, at 2 minutes per jump to arrive, and cost 250,000cr in fuel). Anything else would make a mockery of having FSD drives at all, you may as well just implement 'fast travel' and be done.
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But as Tuub T Tute pointed out, without safeguards and some forethought its open to massive abuse. At the bare minimum it needs to be only for a ship without cargo (handwavium: whoever is doing the transporting has no insurance liability for cargo), and subject to realistic time/financial constraints (e.g. yes you can summon your ship from 55,000ly away, but it will take 5000 jumps, at 2 minutes per jump to arrive, and cost 250,000cr in fuel). Anything else would make a mockery of having FSD drives at all, you may as well just implement 'fast travel' and be done.
Hi, I think that's taken from my blog and update, not an official FD release. It could well be ships, plural and I should preface it with 'TBC'.
I'll do it now in fact!
Completely disagree - I don't know a single commander not taking advantage of the engineers. In their current state they are invaluable.
CQC was a bit of a mess but when I finally got round to playing it I really enjoyed it. It's inclusion in the main game is a great idea, and potentially CG's could be introduced to organise a CQC event at station X.
So now you see the issue then, don't you. All the games you quoted are decades old. You're effectively saying there's nothing wrong with B movies and original star trek special effects. The world has moved on, people want a bit more than shallow, repetitive game play and still to this day, FE2 has more in it than ED has right now. You can keep defending the game but you're factually wrong - the gameplay mechanics as they stand are shallow and repeititive and we'll ikeep voicing our opinions in a hope to get things pushed in the direction they should be going for a game written in 2016 and not feeding the nostalgia of those still stuck in the 1980's. We want progress thanks
Rats.....for a moment there I thought I was reading something official!
Sorry guys.
Then you haven't been reading the forums if you've not seen one post.
Sorry to be that annoying pedant, but... "raises hand". (I might get round to engineers, someday...)
Yep - all valid points and I for one would be fine with that! I could summon my FDL or whatever to where I am currently trading but have spotted an opportunity in CZs through my faction activities, carry on doing the other trading/ data missions whilst it gets there. I'd pay 250,000 Cr "fee" plus the realistic time taken over and above doing it myself any day!
I usually just buy a sidewinder and crash my ship just to get rid of them.... I know I have probably got more money than sense
So that's where all those wrecks come from!!
Right! That's sorted. Now we need to get FDev to agree on this!
*Edit* I should of course put 'realistic' in quotes in my original post - they're somewhat arbitrary obviously, but there needs to be some downside to summoning ships around the galaxy.
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So now you see the issue then, don't you. All the games you quoted are decades old. You're effectively saying there's nothing wrong with B movies and original star trek special effects. The world has moved on, people want a bit more than shallow, repetitive game play and still to this day, FE2 has more in it than ED has right now. You can keep defending the game but you're factually wrong - the gameplay mechanics as they stand are shallow and repeititive and we'll ikeep voicing our opinions in a hope to get things pushed in the direction they should be going for a game written in 2016 and not feeding the nostalgia of those still stuck in the 1980's. We want progress thanks
Right so WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE??? You keep talking about the game being shallow but not actually suggesting anything.
Yes the world has moved on, but thats not the point. Sometimes the old ways are the best as well you know. I'm not factually wrong, any more than you are factually right. Stop talking out of your . All games are shallow and repetitive when you get down to their nuts and bolts.
ED has progressed the genre in directions it wouldn't have been able to do 20 years ago. FE does not categorically have more than ED does now, your talking absolute codswallop. (Other than landing on atmosphere planets). I think you need to actually go back and play that game cos you seem to be getting somewhat confused. I really can't understand it when someone says something like that.
We're not talking about you though - we're talking about the 16 people that play CQC and the 25 that play PP and how many people quit ED over the Engineers? You can pull the wool over your eyes if you want but the "expansions" were massive failures.
Now look at Engineers - in an attempt to stop the massive haemorrhaging of players due to RNG on top of RNG on top of massive grind, they reduced the time needed to get the upgrades right? Making them something everyone will have in a few weeks and now all they've done is leveled everyone up. Once everyone has the upgrades, how does that make the gameplay better? If everyone has increased shields and firepower you're exactly in the same place you started and have acheived nothing - so why did they spend all that time making it then? So everyone could go 30% larger on their jump distances?
Aye, I'd always expected that ship summoning would have a time delay, based on some notion of it having to get there under its own steam (or hydrogen). The idea that you pay your credits and then "3, 2, 1 you're back in the room!" would be naff.
My concern was if FDev changed policy on storing cargo in hulks, in tadnem with this it could easily wreck stuff... Heck even outside of CGs, I could see people with a penchant for UA mischief, abusing the cargo bays out of this.
My concern was if FDev changed policy on storing cargo in hulks, in tadnem with this it could easily wreck stuff... Heck even outside of CGs, I could see people with a penchant for UA mischief, abusing the cargo bays out of this.
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All of us on 1.6! Also, you know maybe 10 commanders? That's you're evidence that everyone is taking advantage of them even though on these very forums people hhave stated they are not interested in the upgrades.
You don't know how many people are playing the game on a day to day basis, and before you suggest it no Steam stats are not going to show that as plenty of people don;t even play ED through Steam. I don't know what the figures are either.
However you talk like you want ED to fail, that its a forgone conclusion, which is a crappy attitude. You have absolutely no idea what the active player count it, only FD know that, you are just plucking crap out of the air hoping that someone will agree with you. It doesn't matter it you think what FD are adding isn't good enough, from what I have seen there is a vocal minority that are not too happy with RNG for the Engineers, but that's all it is a minority. It still adds to the game regardless of its implementation.
Like PP people don't have to get involved in the engineers, like any other aspect of the game as well. But there WILL be people that do, just because you don't see it as anything special doesn't mean somebody else won't. You have a very narrow view of things.
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So whats your evidence? None ....
I noticed the Dolphin docking on one of those station videos. So that is coming too.
Of course Jex, because there has not been countless threads on the Dangerous Discussion sub forum or the Engineers sub forum with many, many people discussing engineers. Is all of it positive?, of course not, but it presents much more evidence that a good number have at least tried engineers, and a decent number of those continue to do so. "You know maybe 10 commanders" - you are being deliberately disingenuous, you cannot state on one hand, "people in these forums have stated they are not interested in these upgrades", while ignoring all the forum posts that clearly are or have been interested.
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