2.2 Reveal confirmed for gamescom

[Red Anders]

All of us on 1.6! ...

So to be clear here, all this vitriol you're pouring out over Engineers and how terrible it all is is coming from someone who hasn't even got access to them, or indeed any other content from season 2?

Cheers buddy, you just gave me the best laugh I've had all week.

 

[Theodrid]

So to be clear here, all this vitriol you're pouring out over Engineers and how terrible it all is is coming from someone who hasn't even got access to them, or indeed any other content from season 2?

Cheers buddy, you just gave me the best laugh I've had all week.

Repped for truth.

 

[orfeboy]

You don't know how many people are playing the game on a day to day basis, and before you suggest it no Steam stats are not going to show that as plenty of people don;t even play ED through Steam. I don't know what the figures are either.

However you talk like you want ED to fail, that its a forgone conclusion, which is a crappy attitude. You have absolutely no idea what the active player count it, only FD know that, you are just plucking crap out of the air hoping that someone will agree with you. It doesn't matter it you think what FD are adding isn't good enough, from what I have seen there is a vocal minority that are not too happy with RNG for the Engineers, but that's all it is a minority. It still adds to the game regardless of its implementation.

Like PP people don't have to get involved in the engineers, like any other aspect of the game as well. But there WILL be people that do, just because you don't see it as anything special doesn't mean somebody else won't. You have a very narrow view of things.

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So whats your evidence? None ....

In fairness, I don't think the engineers are really optional. The AI was drastically increased in strength in 2.1 and to me it seemed obvious that this was to counter the fact that a new 'normal' has been set. Left the way it was, the AI would have been a complete joke as soon as most people started upgrading their ship. All the balancing they had done pre 2.1 was no longer relevant. SO now we find ourselves with a very tough AI and FD have to do the waiting game to see how that pans out. Flying a fully A class FDL is still a sitting duck for even the most basic enemies in the game at present. Ship launched fighters I am guessing are are going to throw a further spanner in the works.

The AI we see now is not the final product. It is a test bed and will be looked at again when the dust of the engineers and ship launched fighters settles. To say the engineers are optional does not wash. Not unless you want to be pulverised by the cruel AI that now exists in the game. Upgrades are simply a must have now to restore the balance.

 

[Moonax IRL]

We need to stop making excuses for FD because of staff or money. They have money, they have staff. NMS can make a game with 15 people. Same can be said for The Forest.

As for SC, people need to stop talking about that. The game is in alpha - if people can't except that it shows they know nothing and aren't entitled to any opinion. SC is going for a much larger goal than either NMS or ED so no wonder it's taking that much longer to make. That still doesn't mean it'll be any good - it could suck massively.

FD wasted their dev time on CQC, PP and Eng which is factual given the first 2 hardly anybody plays and the last one...well, we all saw the massive fallout from that! With missions still bugged and shallow repetitive game mechanics all on top of that, what is everybody playing that's IN the game and not something they had to make up BECAUSE of the game?

So you have no problem deluding yourself about SC and the current mess they're in but you berate FD for actually having a working game, great logic there.

 

[AlPilg]

I agree with orfeboy, you have to have the engineer's upgrades now to remain effective in combat so it's not exactly optional.

 

[Theodrid]

I agree with orfeboy, you have to have the engineer's upgrades now to remain effective so it's not exactly optional.

I'm not so sure, I've dabbled with the engineers very briefly, 95% of my time since engineers dropped has been in an unmodded ship, I have died once in that time.

 

[Jex =TE=]

Right so WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE??? You keep talking about the game being shallow but not actually suggesting anything.

Yes the world has moved on, but thats not the point. Sometimes the old ways are the best as well you know. I'm not factually wrong, any more than you are factually right. Stop talking out of your     . All games are shallow and repetitive when you get down to their nuts and bolts.

ED has progressed the genre in directions it wouldn't have been able to do 20 years ago. FE does not categorically have more than ED does now, your talking absolute codswallop. (Other than landing on atmosphere planets). I think you need to actually go back and play that game cos you seem to be getting somewhat confused. I really can't understand it when someone says something like that.

FE2 has passenger missions, parcel missions, assassination missions, naval missions etc, etc can land on planets and all planets with acceptable G forces. You can follow other ships to take them out and it ahd multicrew.

I've already made countless posts giving idea's - I assume you didn't read the one I made in thios thread alone and must have missed every other post I ever made as well.

Here's a FAQ for FE2 http://www.mogelpower.de/cheats/loesung.php?id=5897

Oh and Thargoids....

http://www.sharoma.com/frontierverse/thargoids.htm


Oh I see you can force a mis-jump as well or have a misjump if you don't service your hyperdrive - that's not in ED

 

[Jex =TE=]

You don't know how many people are playing the game on a day to day basis, and before you suggest it no Steam stats are not going to show that as plenty of people don;t even play ED through Steam. I don't know what the figures are either.

However you talk like you want ED to fail, that its a forgone conclusion, which is a crappy attitude. You have absolutely no idea what the active player count it, only FD know that, you are just plucking crap out of the air hoping that someone will agree with you. It doesn't matter it you think what FD are adding isn't good enough, from what I have seen there is a vocal minority that are not too happy with RNG for the Engineers, but that's all it is a minority. It still adds to the game regardless of its implementation.

Like PP people don't have to get involved in the engineers, like any other aspect of the game as well. But there WILL be people that do, just because you don't see it as anything special doesn't mean somebody else won't. You have a very narrow view of things.

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So whats your evidence? None ....

Unless you weren't paying attention since launch, how do you think ED is going to maintain players? I want the game to fail SO badly that I keep making posts warning of the shallow gameplay and RNG that is FACTUALLY bad gameplay and saying things need to change to make the game better. We're not stuck in the 80's here we're 3 decades on from there.

Steam stats do provide evidence for anybody that knows anything about statistics and averages. The post count on these forums gives more of a picture as well.

 

[CaptainKremmen]

So to be clear here, all this vitriol you're pouring out over Engineers and how terrible it all is is coming from someone who hasn't even got access to them, or indeed any other content from season 2?

Cheers buddy, you just gave me the best laugh I've had all week.

No...........?

 

[Tuub t Tute]

NPC Fighter Pilot crew confirmed!

 

[CaptainKremmen]

But not if you're still on 1.6. Sorry.

 

[Jex =TE=]

No...........?

Was that quote directed at me - I ignored that person ages ago because they can't make a simple argument, let alone a decent one but do I need a calculator to do maths?

I'm assuming he's another poster who doesn't read the forums and cannot work things out that are plain as day for everyone else. Who needs access when you can watch youtube - some people think you have to click the buttons yourself but watching someone click them means you couldn't possibly know anything.

Even having to explain how easy it is to get knowledge about the Eng's will be lost. All I did was pay attention to things. Notice also he has no asnwer because he knows I'm right? Is anyone here in doubt about how bad the Eng update was - do we need to dig up the thread that had 500 pages of replies?

 

[Moonax IRL]

So to be clear here, all this vitriol you're pouring out over Engineers and how terrible it all is is coming from someone who hasn't even got access to them, or indeed any other content from season 2?

Cheers buddy, you just gave me the best laugh I've had all week.

He`s probably spent thousands on SC. Typical stockholm syndrome, sucked in by CR and now wants him to be his daddy and is beyond reproach.

 

[sirius42]

We can hire NPC crew members in 2.2, seems they put this feature in on the roll because of all my negative posts here and i uploaded a FE2 NPC crew picture yesterday (joking)

Great addition FD ! (i was crying for this since 1.0)

David Braben 2nd interview on youtube soon.

 

[Jex =TE=]

He`s probably spent thousands on SC. Typical stockholm syndrome, sucked in by CR and now wants him to be his daddy and is beyond reproach.

I don't own SC if you're talking about me. I also don't get sucked into games like the fanboys here, at SC and NMS do. It's those people that are the problem here. Anyone blindly defending ED, anyone making idiotic posts with no argument are all part of the issue because they refuse to acknowledge there's anything wrong.

Those people would have been buried at Pompey.

 

[Tuub t Tute]

Those people would have been buried at Pompey.

Portsmouth?... Infamy, Infamy, they've all got it in for me!

 

[Moonax IRL]

I don't own SC if you're talking about me. I also don't get sucked into games like the fanboys here, at SC and NMS do. It's those people that are the problem here. Anyone blindly defending ED, anyone making idiotic posts with no argument are all part of the issue because they refuse to acknowledge there's anything wrong.

Those people would have been buried at Pompey.

Will it's funny you brought it into your argument and gave it carte blanche, you came across as quiet the fanboy yourself. Criticism is always welcome and healthy but if you are stuck on 1.6 yourself, you are hardly in a knowledgeable position to critique 2.x.

 

[Red Anders]

Who needs access when you can watch youtube...

If this poster is saying he ignored me because I 'can't make a simple argument' and then posts the above with a straight face, I do actually think he made a wise choice in ignoring me. If someone is willing to be spoon-fed their opinion by someone posting videos on youtube with all of the editorialising that is inherent to that process rather than forming their own opinions based on experience, but is then happy to suggest that the issue is actually that I'm not capable of making 'a simple argument' I'm never going to be able to compete with those levels of delusionary thinking.

I'd have thought that my 1,500 posts might have given him a clue as to whether I read the forums or not though.

What we have here is yet another player who is able to dismiss anybody who doesn't share his blinkered view of the game as being either a fanboy, or simply too stupid to understand what is wrong. Again, perhaps if he didn't have me on ignore he may have seen some of the posts in which I raised reasonable criticism of some aspects of the engineers updates, same as I've raised reasonable criticisms of other aspects of the game. I have to assume he's more comfortable sobbing away in his echo chamber than facing reality.

 

[Lobstris]

We can hire NPC crew members in 2.2, seems they put this feature in on the roll because of all my negative posts here and i uploaded a FE2 NPC crew picture yesterday (joking)

Continuing with the negative though (C'mon y'all you expect no less!), firstly this is only NPC (fighter) pilots, not navigators, copilots, engineers, maintenance techs, chef, medical crew etc. that was implied in the large crew rosters in FFE ships. I'm also concerned that the ability to order your fighter around will be pointed to as a replacement for the ability to hire AI wings, and order them around. I'd much rather have the latter, than the former.

But the idea of advancing your hireable NPC pilot is certainly a step in the right direction.

 

[Jex =TE=]

Will it's funny you brought it into your argument and gave it carte blanche, you came across as quiet the fanboy yourself. Criticism is always welcome and healthy but if you are stuck on 1.6 yourself, you are hardly in a knowledgeable position to critique 2.x.

Even though I just made a post explaining how nobody needs 2.1 to criticise it? If I came across as a fanboy that's your poor reading skills not my inability to explain myself which I've done countlessly. Is it my fault if you don't pay attention and make assumptions or is that your fault?