They could use the community a lot more, ask the question first, then we could have a discussion regarding that matter. Nope this is in the last minute "oh lets do this too"
I'm a big fan of FD and ED, but silly will be and always is silly.
2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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They could use the community a lot more, ask the question first, then we could have a discussion regarding that matter. Nope this is in the last minute "oh lets do this too"
I'm a big fan of FD and ED, but silly will be and always is silly.
No, it is actually taking away design and build options because... why bother?
Why bother balancing your perfect kill-ship with considerations of practicality and range? Why consider skipping on the military hull for your FDL because it wipes 2LY of the range?
Why bother building a dedicated 'long haul' combat ship for tavelling to distant CGs?
Why bother with anything other than the lowest grade FSD drive?
As to the cost: I doubt that it will be several million per ship. And if we're playing economics, then it should be that kind of money, because if it saves an hour or two of travel, that is easily the amount that can be earned to offset it in the time saved.
Transport - Very much "yes" and overdue.
Insta-transfer - Very much "no". There ought to be a cost based on ship size and time delay based on distance. The latter doesn't have to be punative; particularly if you are able to carry on doing what you were doing anyway, while you wait. I'm sure it would be possible to calculate how long it would take to personally jump the required distance at the maximum rate possible in the most favourably-equipped iteration of the ship in question (or even at a sensible fraction of that time). That would be fair, and to some extent prevent Cmdrs circumventing poor jump range of a heavy-hitter.
Insta-transfer - Very much "no". There ought to be a cost based on ship size and time delay based on distance. The latter doesn't have to be punative; particularly if you are able to carry on doing what you were doing anyway, while you wait. I'm sure it would be possible to calculate how long it would take to personally jump the required distance at the maximum rate possible in the most favourably-equipped iteration of the ship in question (or even at a sensible fraction of that time). That would be fair, and to some extent prevent Cmdrs circumventing poor jump range of a heavy-hitter.
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According to the stream -- that's a yes on remote selling.
Pretty sure they said that you will be able to, yes.
Instant is the quick and dirty solution. Update location in database, with some parameters. Advantage: We can have it in no time. Disadvantage: My immersion goes out of the door.
It´s the same un-creative approach to a problem like the galactic faster-than-light-roundcall to all pirates when you carry 1 ton of biowaste.
On the other hand there are very creative things like the unknown probe storyline.
Somebody said it already - it looks like 2 different teams are working on the game.
Disadvantages of the instant-ship-solution:
- Nobody will fly his expensive and maybe not-so-jump-capable ship through space
- Everyone will fly just 60 ly anacondas until he reached his destination, then calls in all other ships
- we will see 100s of ships wandering through the bubble, until the action is over. No home bases needed.
Not sure if "instant" ist the right way. I say no.
It´s the same un-creative approach to a problem like the galactic faster-than-light-roundcall to all pirates when you carry 1 ton of biowaste.
On the other hand there are very creative things like the unknown probe storyline.
Somebody said it already - it looks like 2 different teams are working on the game.
Disadvantages of the instant-ship-solution:
- Nobody will fly his expensive and maybe not-so-jump-capable ship through space
- Everyone will fly just 60 ly anacondas until he reached his destination, then calls in all other ships
- we will see 100s of ships wandering through the bubble, until the action is over. No home bases needed.
Not sure if "instant" ist the right way. I say no.
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There is a part of me that thinks the community factor went into the decision. How to bring people into close proximity to each other more quickly.
That's not an advocative statement.
I'm pretty sure this is something they have been wanting to do for a long time, it has been mentioned from pretty much day 1, don't be silly with the whole 'last minute' thing.
Yes, that's also a new feature. [heavy ninja'd] XD
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One light year = one minute and 100,000cr, we a few credit sinks around.
An having you ship transported around space should be seen as a luxury expense.
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It IS more expensive the greater the distance. And the greater the value of the ship, which at least partially negates the ZOMG EVERYONE WILL JUST SUMMON THEIR A-RATED STAR DESTROYERS TO JACQUES complaints.
You need the location to have a shipyard to be able to summon, errr, "request transport" your ship.
That ship transfer is coming is great and would be an easy highlight of the already impressive list of features coming in 2.2 if done right! Sadly, making the transfer instantaneous is the one big mistake they should have avoided! The money / fee side is much less crucial because money isn't a factor for many people in the game anymore, 2 years after release. But hand-wavingly just transporting your whole armada hundreds of light years breaks the whole illusion of a galaxy where distances matter.
IMO way too slow.
Someone mentioned 100ly = 5min, that would be a figure i would aim (or maybe even faster, 3-4min). Would still be waiting (and for example be realistic), but it would not be long wait most time.
let me dig up what has actually been said about this topic, the way THIS as been delivered is rushed for sure. Never did they even mention INSTANT delivery of you ships.
I would bet on the costs eventually being nerf to the point of it being cheap to teleport your ships to and from Jacques.
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Right, it then becomes the game for those who grind their billions at the LRM and then look for people to throw their behemoths against. This may spell the end of Open Play for a lot of the remaining players. I'm certainly watching wearily and I have always and only played in open.
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I'm going to offer some counterpoint to the "everyone running around in long-jump transports" thing.
If such is the case, the galaxy is going to be filled with low-hanging fruit.
If such is the case, the galaxy is going to be filled with low-hanging fruit.
Another nice addition is griefer and warzone avoidance 
Imagine your ship keeps getting destroyed by a berk in a Corvette sitting outside the station OR a huge alien fleet camped outside. You can now go somewhere else and then bring your ships to safety avoiding the alien fleet Hopefully having a taxi service we could also put our requests in to be transported too
Imagine your ship keeps getting destroyed by a berk in a Corvette sitting outside the station OR a huge alien fleet camped outside. You can now go somewhere else and then bring your ships to safety avoiding the alien fleet
Hopefully having a taxi service we could also put our requests in to be transported too - Status