2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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This.
It should have a 100 Ly limit and take AT LEAST a minute for every 10 Ly. Instant ship transfer is absurd. Courier missions are stupid, then. You can transfer a Python in a second, but you can't send 4 units of biowaste? Pleaseee. I'd almost prefer FD not to add the feature if that's the case.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this game, and I expected this feature, but if it is going to be this absurd, I'd rather not have it. I COULD accept the "sell the one far away and the station giving you a ship with the same specs" excuse... ONLY if the station did sell the ship anyway. I can live with the modules transfer (even if the station don't have them), but at the LEAST the station should have the original ship in stock.
FD already has timers in the game. This shouldn't be that hard to fix.
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If you can´t see why this will affect the game in its roots, I think it´s safe to say that you don´t know what this game´s about. But I still appreciate your titanic efforts, basically alone in the defense of your arguments. How does it feel reading basically 130 pages of posts against them, I don´t know
Well, I don't know what to say. I'm disappointed in some of the people here. All they have are terribly formed strawmen, and arguments filled with fallacies. Why don't you just play a simpler game? I don't actually see how you came to be interested in this one.
Exactly what I wanted to say, but you said it better.
Even bountyhunting. I can make 3-4 mio an hour with the vette. If it costs me 2-3 mio to move it and I save 30minutes travel time (which is the best you can do in the bubble) what exactly have I gained?
Yeah these people seem to forget you can't store a ship with cargo in it, and you can't transfer to systems where there are not stations.
Yeah, the thing that keeps going through my mind right now is "what brought you to a sim game?"
If FSD upgrades are the only thing you're seeking from Engineers then the problem is with you, not the rest of us who have spent time seeking out very different upgrades.
What's so hard for you to comprehend about hitting the major players, watching the stream comments as they happened and putting that together to form a, check this out, informed opinion. You seem to be struggling with this line of thought.
This is never going to strain my credulity while my ship can be destroyed around Sag A* and I can reappear halfway across the galaxy, instantly, in an exact copy. That horse has bolted a long time ago. "A Wizard did it" is standard RPG-ese for "we can't be explaining the minutae of what just happened" - I imagine even a barely competent scifi hack writer could give you an in-universe explanation for any major change in the rules for that universe in about ten minutes - comicbooks have been doing this for decades.
Game changes should be informed by quality of life to the player, not the supplemental story or the game itself. Lore can be rewritten if it makes for a better experience for the player.
It's not a sim game.
And that it costs money, which is convertible into time.
If it was free and instant, I'd see an issue, too.
If it's costly enough it's just trading things I like to do vs things I don't like ... such as completely risk free travel in a flying fortress.
But you can still bring them to any station with a shipyard.
That means any expansion region and any powerplay system , thus making mutlirole and long range ships not mandatory for long range missions.
When I saw a FDL in merope I was impressed. but that sort of gameplay will be removed.
If you like it , cool ! thats great.
But for me and many others it removes a lot of thinking and adapting to the game... it just removes depth.
Its ballanced for the players , but not towards the ships , powerplay , BGS and is just outright not lore friendly.
Its like if in an RTS you could transform all units into any other when you wanted
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Yes it is.
Its no DCS world , but it is a sim. its a science fiction sim.
Just like TieFighter was a Tie sim
Transfer could be rationalised as you actually have a license to fly a certain ship, and you can check on out of the local star port if you have purchased the right to fly. But then availability of ships and modules would have to be limited to what was available in the current star port. Engineer mods totally scupper this rationalisation though.
How did we manage without instatransfer for a year and a half? Oh wait we did. And the galaxy up until 2.2 will feel like a huge place. After that: not so much.
On a positive note; I can effectively skip all engineered FSD's and focus on weapons because "GTA in spayz". All the ASPs i'm gonna interdict and pew. ouwezome!
On a positive note; I can effectively skip all engineered FSD's and focus on weapons because "GTA in spayz". All the ASPs i'm gonna interdict and pew. ouwezome!
Hmm, good question. Tough thinking back when I started to play at release and what is now you can see how most of the game slowly over time has been made more gamey and less sim over time. Think back at stuff like repair and refuel matter! there was cost attached to it that was relevant, there was much tought to be had about when a fuelscoop will come you cheaper then playing fuel in a hauler. Making money was much harder, missions, bountys, all paid much less. Things like that got bit by bit patched out and I guess it makes sense that more and more people got attracked by the game looking for something simpler since that is what the game more and more turned into.
People like me are probably the weird one here, the Frog not noticing that the water he sits in his getting hoter slowly over time and now wondering why its hot.
Quote all you like, but Newtonian physics begs to differ, as does instantaneous ship repair / rearm / refuel / commodity purchase and sale. Also being able to instantly outfit a ship the way you want to. It's just so easy to fit military composite. Takes less than a second. IMMERSION or HYPROCRISY?
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