Powerplay Faction: Zachary Hudson Federation: Zachary Hudson
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Pretty much, it isnt too late to rethink your pledge. Space is big, very big.
Just because you started in Hudson space that doesnt mean it is the right power for you.
A number of the other powers have better benefits and bonuses and strong communities too.
Just because you started in Hudson space that doesnt mean it is the right power for you.
A number of the other powers have better benefits and bonuses and strong communities too.
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Are you talking about the turmoil?
What is a lie about that?
People join the Federation for reasons they don't understand.
1) The default starter systems, and Sol, being under Federation control lead to the false belief that Feds are the 'Good Guys'
2) Star Trek
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Those aren't facts. That's just Imperial talking points based on ignorance. Perhaps your slaves would be able to explain it to you.
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Those aren't facts. That's just Imperial talking points based on ignorance. Perhaps your slaves would be able to explain it to you.
How very Federal of you rjwhite41, blasting well researched knowledge of the game with "No".
Just one thing, how do you explain that the Federation is the single largest trader in illegal slavery in the game, go to Robigo and check it out for yourself, if you dont believe me, a good section of those destinations are to Federal systems both inside and outside Hudson space. It is the Federation's dirty secret.
Imperial Slaves are like indentured servants, this propoganda is typically Federal, like the blind leading the blind. Imperial Slaves are not slaves in the true sense of the term. Imperial Slaves volunteer to serve to pay off debts they otherwise would not be able to. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant
Most Imperials that I know in Arissa Lavigny-Duval and Aisling Duval and Patreus do not condone trade in slaves, it is just something the game makers have made us take on as a bad point for balance and lore, "No body should be perfect type game design."
The majority of players in the Alliance and Empire see a small part of their reason for their pledge to their super powers as the lesser of two evils, quite apart from the very real ideal of building something other than the Federation, a number will say, "At least you are not a Fed".
The corrupt community that is/was President Hudson and Felicia Winters, in particular Felicia Winter's power's lore agenda is Liberal and yet they have been the most blood thristy and oppressive faction in the game to date, openly attacking the Alliance and Empire in equal measure. At each stage the attacks were misinformed and folly and backfired in spectacular fashion, as evident by "The Fall of Winters". At least Hudson stayed on agenda, all be it corrupt, Winter's FLC just took the lore ideals and threw them out of the window, they departed from the lore to take over the faction to bend it to a fascist agenda and the compliant Hudson "Hoard" duely followed along. Saying "It was just orders." Well, we know where that arguement has been used before. Not good. Further more, Winters and Hudson leaderships openly admitted that the reason for the attack on the Alliance was: "At least we made powerplay interesting!" (this is griefer speak for: We did it for the hell of it because we are jealous)
President Hudson now started a war over the outpost in Pleiades Sector IH-V C2-16. The question of leadership within the Federation is being questioned by the whole game that makes an interest in the lore right now. Each mistep is digging a deeper pit.
What is worse, the Federal continual attempt to enter the majority of the NPC population and the player population for the whole Empire, the Alliance, and Independant powers' player bases into a position of servitude by attacks, threats and aggressive diplomacy and with Militarised Expansions LPM 229, Concantea and AF Leporis and others or the lore that we were dealt that we have no say in. You decide.
Labeling and history aside, what exactly does the Federation have going for it mechanically for the average gamer right now?
Answer: Most players spawn in Hudson space, that is literally the best thing going right now. A quick trip for 6-10 jumps, depending on where you want to pledge to, quickly rectifies your situation.
The majority of the rest of the game is glad this is happening, they just want to mind their own business.
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Funny thing is that if you want to play for a power with combat ethos you only have the decission between pest, cholera or pirates (refering to Zachy, Patreus, Arissa and Delaine).
There are but three powers that are somewhat trustworthy imo: those are Winters, Mahon and Aisling - none have combat as theire ethos, so gameplay is hauling only. Yawn.
All other powers are capitalistic, plain criminal, corrupt, militaristic, despotic, snobs, rednecks or worse. A sweet choice isn't it? But I think this is just right, becouse war (combat-ethos) is a poor choice in real life. But in games I do want some action.
RP on: "Hudson gives you law and order. Cant deny this in the face of a pacifier pointing at your naked hull, can you? All slave trading done in Hudson space is clearly illegal and done by the corrupt and criminal. Every societiy has such. But we will hunt them down and put them to justice sooner or later! This is why president Hudson gives us a bonus on each delivered bounty, you know? And show me the Federal faction in robigo that issues such slave missions. Nonexistent. There you have it. It's only Empire or Anarchic scum issuing slave-hauling missions there."
There are but three powers that are somewhat trustworthy imo: those are Winters, Mahon and Aisling - none have combat as theire ethos, so gameplay is hauling only. Yawn.
All other powers are capitalistic, plain criminal, corrupt, militaristic, despotic, snobs, rednecks or worse. A sweet choice isn't it? But I think this is just right, becouse war (combat-ethos) is a poor choice in real life. But in games I do want some action.
RP on: "Hudson gives you law and order. Cant deny this in the face of a pacifier pointing at your naked hull, can you? All slave trading done in Hudson space is clearly illegal and done by the corrupt and criminal. Every societiy has such. But we will hunt them down and put them to justice sooner or later! This is why president Hudson gives us a bonus on each delivered bounty, you know? And show me the Federal faction in robigo that issues such slave missions. Nonexistent. There you have it. It's only Empire or Anarchic scum issuing slave-hauling missions there."
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Those aren't facts. That's just Imperial talking points based on ignorance. Perhaps your slaves would be able to explain it to you.
I've personally run an (admittedly informal) survey of new players (Harmless/Mostly Harmless/Competent) that I find in Hudson space (because, call me a carebear, but I'm not one to shoot new players). "It's the area I started in" is far and away the most common reason given for why they joined Hudson (and, to a lesser extent, Winters). Sheepishly pointing to Star Trek is a more common answer than you think. So I have to ask what makes you so confident this is based on ignorance? Have you run a similar survey and had different results?
There is one common reason that wasn't listed: "I'm anti-slavery." I'll leave that particular topic alone, but only say that there's a lot of ignorance of the actual lore that fuels the righteousness of that particular stance.
More like Cheney.
10 months of organized Hudson PP activity.
The most common reasons I hear are bounty bonus, Sol and slavery is bad. I have never once heard anyone say Star Trek, although I have heard I started there multiple times. New players (as in new to the game) probably come and go from Hudson more regularly than other powers but they are rarely organized or dedicated to the Power. They also rarely do more than grind merits for the bounty bonus. By questioning new players and those that left Hudson you probably have a skewed belief as to why anyone would support the Federation.
If I have the energy I'll respond to Peach Slices later but honestly, we're a little busy this week to take part in these little squabbles.
Wow, so let me get this straight, players who play the game for reasons you dont agree with, do not count? They do not matter?
The Federation once again at odds and a stark contrast to the rest of the communities.
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Informal polls. Opinion. Blah blah.
9 out of 10 imperial pilots own rescue donkeys because they are known for their soft hearts. 8 out of 10 Alliance play only in open because they are tough PvP types. Probably.
An approximate 8 out of 10 contributing FD forum users think instant ship transfer is a garbage design choice. Fact.
OP - unpledge, turn your back on PP, and run. Fast and far. It's a pile.
9 out of 10 imperial pilots own rescue donkeys because they are known for their soft hearts. 8 out of 10 Alliance play only in open because they are tough PvP types. Probably.
An approximate 8 out of 10 contributing FD forum users think instant ship transfer is a garbage design choice. Fact.
OP - unpledge, turn your back on PP, and run. Fast and far. It's a pile.
I guess you know how I meant it and just try to get a reaction, but I'll clarify anyway: What I meant was in terms of "strength" or effectiveness of a community behind a PP power, those players don't have a big impact. So it's not just about number of pledged players.
