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2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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Goose4291
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True... also, you can say about Christ Roberts whatever you will but he is an obsessive purist when it comes to simulation. A "convenience feature" like this would never fly with him.
...that could also be the reason the game might never come out, of course.
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How big is the bubble? They can't plot beyond 1KLy, so wouldn't be able to properly determine if a system is reachable if it's beyond that. They could just assume if a ship has a (say) 15Ly jump range then it can be sent to any station. I don't know of any station that couldn't be reached with that jump range.
So while DB is full of admiration for those dedicating the time and effort to go to Jacques and beyond (see the livestreams), he's quite willing to make the shortcuts so it doesn't eat into peoples play sessions.
I just don't get it. Elite never was and never should be an insta-gratification game. But then thats the issue here really, not 3D printing of ships.
Its the 'Arcading' of the game.
Exactly what I wanted from this. Just the ability to easily make a new station a semi-permanent home. Not a bypass the game mechanics. Really though, I do think that travel around space could be faster (especially for combat ships), but this is NOT the way that solution should be implemented. It's lazy. Immersion breaking. Pulls me out of my favorite ship and into a crappy taxi. Not fun.
Right, no ragequits here either. Just stunned disappointment. My complete lack of desire to play though after the announcement surprised even me though... I figured I couldn't be alone in this. Just wanted to make sure
Immersion is REALLY important.
I would like a couple ships transferred but I agree. E : D is great in that there is a lot of realism, or theoretical realism to the game. Ship transfers should take time to complete. It's a simulator, not Call of Duty. At the very least, if it takes 15 hours of in game time to travel from point A to B, then it should take at least 15 hours to have a ship delivered from point A to B (ships aren't going to fuel and maintain themselves along the journey).
If you leave out far out locations like Maia and others I think everything fits into 1k Ly, tough its more a guess I could be wrong. Also don't think a 1K LY limit would be too bad of thing.
What they were meaning is that in effect it magically transforms your ship into any of your other ships. Assuming you gathered as much, you're intentionally choosing to look at their point out of context.
I noticed earlier that you also chose to lump "transfers should be instant" with "transfers should take a small amount of time," because that small amount of time seemed irrelevant to you, even though it wasn't for the people that voted for it.
Are you playing devil's advocate or something? Taken as a whole, I'm honestly a little confused by your posts in this thread.
We all have our own preferences and biases, I suppose. Mine is for a more immersive and compelling sci-fi space sim type game that tries to make sense where viably possible. Having instant ship transfers is a slap in the face to people who have those ideals and to people who worked on outfitting their ships based on already established principles.
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My idea is that the game mechanic
a) Plots a route (in "economic" mode) to the destination and calculates the time based on that
b) Does not allow transfer if no possible route can be found (e.g. jump range to small).
c) Naturally, this would also mean ship transfer has a maximum range of 1000 Ly, which conveniently means that no, you cannot travel in your empty grade 5 Farseer'ed Anaconda to Jaques and then have your FDL delivered there.
3d printing is just something the community has invented as a possible explanation. I suspect as far as FD are concerned it has no "in-lore" explanation at all. It's just a game mechanic. Though if you had to apply one then I'd say the ship is flown/shipped in and the time it takes is simply skipped. Like a fade to black along with a "Later" message.
I think if you'd asked anyone before last week how it should be done, you'd have got an answer similar to what you suggest. It's what I'd have envisioned.
Because, one has to actually get to what ever station in question before transferring ships. There will be restrictions to what stations you can transfer ships to. i.e. The station would have to have a Shipyard available.
So, the admiration for people who got all the way to Jacque's is relevant. Added to the fact that ship transfer is not available yet that admiration is not misplaced at all.
FDs only explanation I'm aware of is "For Gameplay". Lorewise it shouldn't be possible, but that they don't care about really.
I'm a 30 something parent with a full time job and one night a week to game, so I classify as "casual". And know what? I want it to take time based on the ships jump range and number of jumps.
They really start caring about lore and realism for the simple reason that their boss cares as he stated in his gamescom interviews.
Oh, thank you so much for that, Goose. I was sneaking a peek at the forums whilst at work, and now that I just sprayed coffee and a donkey like bray of laughter all over the workplace, everybody knows it wasn't work related.
Spot on.
I don't think we would. People would be happy with the feature.
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