I know the graphic card is the priority but I will keep my gtx970 for a month or two. My actual pc have no USB 3 and low memory so I will start from zero. I am willing to pay the price for the pc component but I am very confuse with all i7 and i5 number and performance. I just want the best to support for Vr, I don't find clear information, maybe I just by a expensive CPU. Is Xeon a good option? Help pls
Buying a new PC for oculus, suggestion pls
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you need to purchase a:
corsair 540 case
Msi z170 krait mobo
16g ddr4 corsair mem <2666mhz
i7 6700k
all that adds up to roughly $700 usd. I recommend the air 540 case due to its low price and outstanding cooling performance. I recently built a rig using these parts along with an MSI gtx 1080 armor so i could take full advantage of the "pretty" that Elite has to offer in VR and I am very impressed with the temps and the performance i've gained.
corsair 540 case
Msi z170 krait mobo
16g ddr4 corsair mem <2666mhz
i7 6700k
all that adds up to roughly $700 usd. I recommend the air 540 case due to its low price and outstanding cooling performance. I recently built a rig using these parts along with an MSI gtx 1080 armor so i could take full advantage of the "pretty" that Elite has to offer in VR and I am very impressed with the temps and the performance i've gained.
The MSI doesn't review very well. I went with the EVGA Z170 Classified.
I'd also *really* recommend getting 32GB (2x16GB DIMMs). Not only is it pretty inexpensive, but you set the stage to go to 64GB later if you find the need.
If you did 2x8GB SIMMs, you'd have to toss them to get to max memory.
If you did 1x16GB, then you'd be hurting your memory bandwidth.
If you wanted to lower prices you could move from the 6700k to the 6600k. You'd lose hyperthreading and 500MHz of stock speed (though they are both overclockable) and gain about $100. (I did get a 6700k FWIW). You won't see a difference in percieved game performance.
Another option (if you wanted to lower costs) would be to go for a Broadwell CPU/Board. I can get into more detail if you like.
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If you are after maximum performance, I do have one other tip. Put your OS and Elite on an SSD.
When I moved the game to a spinning-metal drive I started to notice texture load times. It wasn't earth-shattering; but it was noticeable. I moved it back to an SSD (I always run my OS on SSD).
If you are planning to overclock (which can offer considerable gains); plan your coolers accordingly (please note that the 6700k does not come with a cooler: you will need to order one).
I did this and was actually surprised by the performance gains. well worth it.
(speaking french here) you mean there is no fan direct on the cpu? ok.
I noticed heat go high of my i7 2700 and graphic card when I put some graphic in high. Do you recommend I add a cooling system with the corsair 540 case and all is fans for my future PC?
Really appreciate all your info from VR perspective, many PC retailers will say you don't need that 32GB or other stuff, but they have no idea how VR is demanding
Intel used to supply a stock heatsink and fan in the box with their processors (if you purchased the retail box processor).
They no longer do.
You will need to purchase a CPU cooler (generally a heatsink-fan combo; but there are also water coolers and whatnot).
I'm not terribly familiar with the case but looking at it, it has spots for 6 fans so I would put in 6 fans. Two on top and one in back blowing out, and three in front blowing in.
If you are having high heat problems there can be two causes.
1) the heatsink/cooler on the CPU is insufficient.
2) the air circulation for the case is insufficient.
It's not so much an issue of "need" as it is cost/benefit analysis. The move from 16GB to 32GB is inexpensive, and leaves the door open for future upgrades.
If RAM prices were higher, or your budget very tight, my suggestion might be different.
Corsair do some very good all in one CPU water coolers, I use a H100i v2 with my 6600k which is overclocked to a stable 4.6ghz, it keeps the CPU nice and cool:
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/cooling
It should fit in the top of your case , blowing the air out.
They do a single fan version too which can be fitted to the rear of the case, and would be fine if you don't plan to overclock.
Just to add to your choices, the CPU and motherboard I went with is:
Intel Core i5 6600K and Asus ROG Maximus VIII Ranger, Intel Z170
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/cooling
It should fit in the top of your case , blowing the air out.
They do a single fan version too which can be fitted to the rear of the case, and would be fine if you don't plan to overclock.
Just to add to your choices, the CPU and motherboard I went with is:
Intel Core i5 6600K and Asus ROG Maximus VIII Ranger, Intel Z170
Have a look at this site, if you haven't already:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/builds/
You may get some inspiration for your own build. You can also use it to put your own build together and see a cost estimate. Thats what I did. Worked great.
I went with a compact build:
Bitfenix Prodigy M case
Gigabyte GA-Z170MX Gaming 5 motherboard,
i5 6600k 3.5Ghz CPU
Enermax Liqmax II 120s liquid CPU cooler
and a gtx970 (I think i'll switch to a gtx1070 or 1080 soonish).
It works really great and it is compact enough that I can put it in the bookcase
The 6600k seems more than enough for gaming. In ED it sits at around 60% utilization at stock speed, as far as I remember.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/builds/
You may get some inspiration for your own build. You can also use it to put your own build together and see a cost estimate. Thats what I did. Worked great.
I went with a compact build:
Bitfenix Prodigy M case
Gigabyte GA-Z170MX Gaming 5 motherboard,
i5 6600k 3.5Ghz CPU
Enermax Liqmax II 120s liquid CPU cooler
and a gtx970 (I think i'll switch to a gtx1070 or 1080 soonish).
It works really great and it is compact enough that I can put it in the bookcase
The 6600k seems more than enough for gaming. In ED it sits at around 60% utilization at stock speed, as far as I remember.
I second a Corsair water cooler. I didn't bother overclocking until I got into VR, but I just liked having a quieter CPU fan, and water cooling does that too.
32Gb is better of course but I don't know where you're buying your stuff from because everywhere I look it's nearly a straight double in cost to go from 16Gb to 32Gb. About £70 for 16Gb and about £140 for 32Gb. 70 quid in of itself might not be a huge cost but when building a PC it all adds up.
As for cooling, I was generally put off from buying one of those all in one Corsair coolers as I kept reading reviews of them leaking and having noisy fans. The last thing you want is gunk leaking all over your mainboard. So in the end I played it safe and went for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. Basically just a giant heatsink and fan. If you're not going to bother doing much if any in the way of overclocking then water cooling is a bit OTT anyway. Good ventilation and case fans should do the job.
He's spending about $1400 (video card and PC: so not including monitor, HOTAS, HMD, etc). 32GB brings him to about $1470 instead.
Unless you do some very specific things, there is generally no benefit having 32Gb over 16Gb.
Running heaps of VM's from RAMdrives is one of them. Gaming is not.
Running heaps of VM's from RAMdrives is one of them. Gaming is not.
In 2-3 years most of the hardware you have now will probably need upgrading anyway, so you may as well leave it until then.