UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[ReignBlackmane]

okey, I think the problem with the next part is us lol

"one of my friends always lies" right?

Then:

"I visited a rocky planet at latitude 34 near binary pulsars" - then we went "well, there are no binary pulsars, so he must be lying about that part, so lets look for a rocky planet..."

No. The first person said ALWAYS lies. There is no rocky/icy planet near lat/long 34/xx near anywhere. The whole thing is a lie. We can't just pick and choose bits from his sentence. the whole thing is a lie

unless they were telling the truth, and the other person is lying.

well if hes the liar why not think of whatever he is telling us is the opposite?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Maybe I missed it in the 60 or so pages since the message, but there seems to be another binary neutron/pulsar star. In a system TYC 154-1871-1 with a V-class arrival star and three planets, two metal-rich (landable) and one gas giant. Will this system fit in somewhere? It's some 5.000 ly from Sol.
https://eddb.io/system/bodies/288382
I haven't got time to check it out for quite some time.

I was a bystander yesterday, having RL commitments most of the day, but I would caution against the binary pulsars clue- this seems to me to be so rare that it's likely this is the red herring- unless they are located in Formidine Rift, Hawkings Gap or the Conflux.

 

[Niamhy]

well if hes the liar why not think of whatever he is telling us is the opposite?

it could be the opposite. we could be looking for an icy planet, 43 long, near a single red dwarf. or a dozen other combinations.

But if you lie about everything, why be that specific? If I wanted to lie to you, I couldn't just change a few numbers. I'd completely throw you off the trail completely by giving you things that were totally not relevant to the thing you were after.

I dunno, until we get more clues, treat every part of his sentence as a lie. And because "rocky planet" is a lie, that doesn't mean "icy planet" is the truth. there may be no planet at all.

 

[NorMonsta]

oh ive done a lot with the UAs and UPs before so ive got a lot of skin in the game, but feel free to say otherwise its all good

hahaha..skin in the game, unfortunately its someone elses skin!

Dbob is a bug in a skin suit...said b4 will claim it forever

 

[Tallsword]

it could be the opposite. we could be looking for an icy planet, 43 long, near a single red dwarf. or a dozen other combinations.

But if you lie about everything, why be that specific? If I wanted to lie to you, I couldn't just change a few numbers. I'd completely throw you off the trail completely by giving you things that were totally not relevant to the thing you were after.

I dunno, until we get more clues, treat every part of his sentence as a lie. And because "rocky planet" is a lie, that doesn't mean "icy planet" is the truth. there may be no planet at all.

I mentioned this yesterday too... but, if he's the liar then he could be trying to make us look for a planet (hey I landed on a planet near two pulsars ain't that cool?) while what we are looking for is not a planet but the ship graveyard from the gamescom interviews... remember, ship parts floating around, cobra mk 3 shot by alien lasers... This is a possibility too, yet I don't think anyone's considering this. I cant seem to find anyone checking those videos anymore either, they could have another clue hidden somewhere, such as the background, maybe a nebula or something's visible and the location wouldn't be hard to pinpoint with our current clues.

 

[Gorrister]

My theory: We are looking for a system with a binary pulsar, one class M star and 7 other. This system got one planet. And its rocky.

 

[GeneralGhostt]

I mentioned this yesterday too... but, if he's the liar then he could be trying to make us look for a planet (hey I landed on a planet near two pulsars ain't that cool?) while what we are looking for is not a planet but the ship graveyard from the gamescom interviews... remember, ship parts floating around, cobra mk 3 shot by alien lasers... This is a possibility too, yet I don't think anyone's considering this. I cant seem to find anyone checking those videos anymore either, they could have another clue hidden somewhere, such as the background, maybe a nebula or something's visible and the location wouldn't be hard to pinpoint with our current clues.

the cobra is Granger's white cobra that got destroyed

remember he woke up somewhere far away after the incident happend

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My theory: We are looking for a system with a binary pulsar, one class M star and 7 other. This system got one planet. And its rocky.

pulsars are not existing in the game yet and Granger was specific abaut the part that its a single star system with 10 other bodies

 

[damajoo]

so whats the plan for today in trying to figure this out?

best guess would be to expect 3 CG's corresponding to the three encounters, fullfill them and see what hints we get next.
But probably not today (bank holiday in UK)

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

every instinct tells you this is Orion. Exccceeept... Orion's Bow points to the Pleades/Taurus. In Kerash's "map", Taurus should be at the topright of the map. ish. and if you rotate the map 90%, taurus still isn't at the top-right. So either it IS Orion, and Taurus is misplaced to throw us off, or it isn't Orion. And if it isn't Orion... well.. um...

I've been of the opinion for a couple of weeks that the UP puzzle is tending towards Merope5C being hollow, and possibly a thargoid mothership. How many bodies in Merope? Star class?

 

[ReignBlackmane]

best guess would be to expect 3 CG's corresponding to the three encounters, fullfill them and see what hints we get next.
But probably not today (bank holiday in UK)

well if thats whats happening than i guess we wait.. i dont think its gonna be CGs tho...

 

[Nazdakka]

pulsars are not existing in the game yet and Granger was specific abaut the part that its a single star system with 10 other bodies

A pulsar is a specific kind of rotating neutron star. There are lots of neutron stars in game.

 

[Tallsword]

the cobra is Granger's white cobra that got destroyed

remember he woke up somewhere far away after the incident happend

Do the colors match? Then we might be looking for the ship graveyard exactly, or for another checkpoint before the ship graveyard where the incident happened... Either way I think it's worth another investigation.

 

[Han_Zen]

it could be the opposite. we could be looking for an icy planet, 43 long, near a single red dwarf. or a dozen other combinations.

But if you lie about everything, why be that specific? If I wanted to lie to you, I couldn't just change a few numbers. I'd completely throw you off the trail completely by giving you things that were totally not relevant to the thing you were after.

I dunno, until we get more clues, treat every part of his sentence as a lie. And because "rocky planet" is a lie, that doesn't mean "icy planet" is the truth. there may be no planet at all.

I think it's quite likely that Dillon is telling us the opposite or rather what we aren't looking for. She lies because she is playing a game, not because she doesn't want us to find treasure.

- Not a binary system
- Not a rocky planet
- Not at 34° latitude

These are logical statements that adds to the other info we have received from Kohl and Granger.

 

[ReignBlackmane]

so.. i know its a holiday in the UK today, but whats there to say that these "NPCs" wont show up again today?

 

[Gorrister]

the cobra is Granger's white cobra that got destroyed

remember he woke up somewhere far away after the incident happend

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pulsars are not existing in the game yet and Granger was specific abaut the part that its a single star system with 10 other bodies

You can go to the crab nebular pulsar. Many did. You can even find it by searching pulsar in the galmap.

 

[GeneralGhostt]

A pulsar is a specific kind of rotating neutron star. There are lots of neutron stars in game.

and binary neutron stars are like 4k lightyears away from sol
and its a very bad design idea to put a site like the crashed aliens ship that players want to see to another part of the galaxy

 

[Han_Zen]

A pulsar is a specific kind of rotating neutron star. There are lots of neutron stars in game.

All highly magnetized, rapidly rotating neutron stars are potential pulsars. Only those where the emission beam hits Earth are called pulsars. There are plenty of them in game(search for PSR), but the Earth centric term 'Pulsar' does not make much sense in game.

 

[Tallsword]

The second or third interview had something to do with green light - maybe an alien powerplant or a weird green star (I know we haven't seen anything like that before, but something like that could be sneaked into the game quite easily and DB did say something in one of the interviews, the last maybe, that I understood as "people havent found much of the secretly placed stuff")? Anyone's got any idea what that actually is?

 

[Niamhy]

I mentioned this yesterday too... but, if he's the liar then he could be trying to make us look for a planet (hey I landed on a planet near two pulsars ain't that cool?) while what we are looking for is not a planet but the ship graveyard from the gamescom interviews... remember, ship parts floating around, cobra mk 3 shot by alien lasers... This is a possibility too, yet I don't think anyone's considering this. I cant seem to find anyone checking those videos anymore either, they could have another clue hidden somewhere, such as the background, maybe a nebula or something's visible and the location wouldn't be hard to pinpoint with our current clues.

the stars/nebula in the "graveyard" scene at Gamecom put the event somewhere around Pre-Research Gamma. ish. It has to be this side of the nebula, or else you wouldn't see the nebula (re-coloured blue for 2.2) in the scene. But Pic Tok etc are too far away, its somewhere closer to Gamma than we are looking at present.

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I understood as "people havent found much of the secretly placed stuff")? Anyone's got any idea what that actually is?

the problem is, we don't have the ingame tools to really find stuff. There could be alien ruins on every landable planet in the bubble, but unless we search every inch of every one of them (or are very lucky) there is no way we would ever find them. The ingame map needs to highlight planetary POI, and also we need to be able to type in co-ords and get a planetary map marker to fly to. My 2016 phone has better mapping stuff than my 33rd century starship, and that's a real problem.

 

[Han_Zen]

and binary neutron stars are like 4k lightyears away from sol
and its a very bad design idea to put a site like the crashed aliens ship that players want to see to another part of the galaxy

Here is a list of pulsars in binary systems: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/relativity/binpulstable.html

Not a lot of them consist of two neutron star. The clue is a bit vague, but I guess the plural 'pulsars' implies two. Not just a pulsar in a binary system.

Either way, I think Dillon is the liar.