is it me or are we expecting to gather an enormous amount of cash right now?

[Boff'in]

Robigo, offered some high-stakes, long distance smuggling missions with stunning rewards.

Ceos, Soothis did the same with simple trading runs (over long distances) without the high-risks or challenge.

Legit rewards for legit gameplay (That's if you are NOT RELOGGING TO STACK MISSIONS)

Some of the playerbase (for better or worse) has been UA bombing or playing the Background sim to shut down these lucractive routes because of the "relogging" exploit.
But it does seam strange that Frontier didn't shut down or intervene. Maybe they thought players would fight back with meta-alloys, and wanted to see how it played out.
Maybe they were just too busy with Gamescom.

But here is a little suggestion.

in 2.2. we have ship launched fighters and passenger missions.
Ship-launch fighters is relevant for the larger more expensive ships and the cruise liner ships will be extortionate if the Orca is anything to go off.


So an entire patch who's entire "gamut of gameplay" is super expensive ships.
and add in with the throw away coment from a podcast of "using the anaconda's as space taxi's".
160m space taxi's - https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda...-0202--------------43--.AwRj4yVTjqxA.Aw18ZlA=

It's in Frontiers best interest that players can afford larger ships right now?

This is my last six months, after a year of play I'd just struggled from cobra to a type six during the autumn, when Horizons dropped.
and I did some exploring in a cobra and adder, by selling off my Type-6

After Maia smuggling missions, I sold up and a went from type6 to an asp.
Then to a well kitted out Asp through months of grinding via trading and missions with the little playtime I get.

I spent some sommer nights doing a few CEW/Soothis runs (the legit way).
And gathered enough to fully kit out a Cobra and Adder (minus the 5m super drives that do a minor percent more).

And found myself broke again. With Ceo and Soothis out of commision, I turned to the Imperial Warship CG from the weekend.

I took my Asp in there last night.
LAST night and I was broke (effectively).

14 or so trips later, I'm in the top 50% with 1000+ tonnes. (i'm unemployed right now and should have been looking for work), but we are talking 2-3 hours today, and 1-2 last night).

And I just walked away with 140m
The top 25 and top few procent, could have bought out one of the largest ships and started kitting it out well.

I can get a clipper / python or even a type 9 and start pulling in some heavy trading missions, or just play heavy duty miner for a while.

I just jumped ahead of how I played "my game" by a couple of years.

Not that I'm complaining.

But it feels weird to have a "press button to win" scenario, one after the other - and just in time to get a cruise ship with a fighter hanger......

 

[kofeyh]

I think you'll find this is yet another instance where frontier misplaced a decimal point. To prevent the inevitable screaming, they would have honoured the mistaken CG payouts.

It's happened before. More than once.

This was not a normal CG. Just one that Frontier cocked up. You get to profit from it. Because I garuntee you'd have complained if they didn't.

Enjoy.

 

[cmdr sandman]

...Frontier cocked up

Again...

 

[Ian Skippy]

I cant think of any reason why this would have been intended...

 

[Wolf Starslayer]

FD slowly becoming the Laurel & Hardy of MMO game design.

 

[kofeyh]

I cant think of any reason why this would have been intended...

Move the decimal point left one digit and suddenly the numbers align with pretty much most CGs.

Frontier run dozens of the things over the course of a month, it's not surprising they stuff it up occasionally. It's all human driven. Humans are fullable. ^.^

 

[kastia]

I don't recall what the Federal CG rewards were, but could this just be a case of FDev wanting to entice enough interest to ensure that the Imps had a comparable fleet to the Feds, either for an all out Fed vs Imp war, or to spice things up a bit if/when Thargoids/Hostile alien race show up?

 

[Godsailsaqueen]

The whole money balance is a tad broken. I wiped my save when engineers dropped. I was in a pretty rich position before that. But I'd look at my character's history, and I'd say "you know what, it has no sense, this character means nothing, I want to start anew and make a good story".
And, in fact, turns out you can if you put yourself in the "hard credit mode". You can choose to climb the ladder very slowly by just doing random missions, picking uss, roaming, working for a faction... But it asks for huge commitment when you see all the rich goodies they're throwing at our faces.

And you get a type 6, and you say "I should trade". And it becomes exponentially quick after that. And oh, you're in a python now. With a novice rank. And look, a maia smuggling run after that, a T-9.

I really regret taking this game when it was becoming less hardcore. I would have liked being forced by some consistent rules, to pay for huge fuel and repair wages, really earn the ships I fly. But there's too much incentive to run on easy mode, and get into a corvette without ever fighting. I like my character even less now. I wish there were some difficulty modes, to adjust the economy to your liking and prevent an uproar in the community.

 

[hammerreborn]

I don't recall what the Federal CG rewards were, but could this just be a case of FDev wanting to entice enough interest to ensure that the Imps had a comparable fleet to the Feds, either for an all out Fed vs Imp war, or to spice things up a bit if/when Thargoids/Hostile alien race show up?

Wait until you learn that the fed vs imp war and the imp vs thargoids are one and the same!

 

[MadDogMurdock]

Nah, just seems to be in line with the new 'instant' policy from FD regarding 'rewarding gameplay'.
I may have to return to a policy of doing one run for each CG and then seeing if that keeps me in the 99%.

 

[kofeyh]

Nah, just seems to be in line with the new 'instant' policy from FD regarding 'rewarding gameplay'.
I may have to return to a policy of doing one run for each CG and then seeing if that keeps me in the 99%.

Guys it was a typo. It happens. They aren't suddenly making all CG hundreds of millions.

This isn't the first time totals have been keyed in, incorrectly. It seems this time they are just honouring the totals.

Because the alternative is people would moan about not getting the payouts.

 

[Shaamaan]

Is this thread solely about the CG? I feel the question is about money in general, not just the botched CG rewards?

I bought ED at launch. I played it for a pretty long time until I got myself a trade-Conda and tried to get enough money to outfit it for combat. Took a break. Came back sometime before Horizons, made enough money to buy and equip a variety of medium-sized ships. Took another break with Horizons (which, at launch, was really disappointing). Came back recently.

I have almost 200mil in the bank, and ~500+mil in assets. That's still not enough to get the largest of ships (excluding the fact that I don't have the rank needed). And even if it were enough, I feel sacrificing all the variety available to me at the moment for a single ship would be a fools bargain. All in all, the ships are massively expensive. Outfitting even more so. And I've just started the engineers grind as well...

So, as someone who never was "broke" outside of the very first hours when I was learning the ropes in the Sidey, I still feel the price points for various ships are somewhat... strange. Is it MEANT to be accessible only by the most dedicated hardcore grinders? Because, hell, even Sothis (assuming it works) would be a massive grind to get a fully equipped Corvette...

 

[Godsailsaqueen]

Is this thread solely about the CG? I feel the question is about money in general, not just the botched CG rewards?

I bought ED at launch. I played it for a pretty long time until I got myself a trade-Conda. Took a break. Came back sometime before Horizons, made enough money to buy and equip a variety of medium-sized ships. Took another break with Horizons (which, at launch, was really disappointing). Came back recently.

I have almost 200mil in the bank, and ~500+mil in assets. That's still not enough to get the largest of ships (excluding the fact that I don't have the rank needed). And even if it were enough, I feel sacrificing all the variety available to me at the moment for a single ship would be a fools bargain. All in all, the ships are massively expensive. Outfitting even more so. And I've just started the engineers grind as well...

So, as someone who never was "broke" outside of the very first hours when I was learning the ropes in the Sidey, I still feel the price points for various ships are somewhat... strange. Is it MEANT to be accessible only by the most dedicated hardcore grinders? Because, hell, even Sothis (assuming it works) would be a massive grind to get a fully equipped Corvette...

I think the 3 large ships are an exception - or at least the 2 ranked ones. They were supposed to be special, some sort of exception rewarding a long time playing and investment.
But the moment the biggest toys dropped, you can be sure that the baddest kids will squeeze their way in the sandbox to get them. It redefines the new price standards, it became a norm and the grinding was legitimate. I see cutters and corvettes 60% of the time. The rest is equally shared between anacondas, pythons, aps and FDL.

My reading of OP is that you can stay at the bottom of the ladder for a very long time, being broke, feel like a rewarding experience (depends on your taste), fishing with your bare hands - and then you get your head out of the water and you realize you could use packs of dynamite to get 1000 tons of fish in one single time. And you could have done it all along. You just wonder "why going through this? I'll take the dynamite". And boom, early game is over, you just became as rich as your ability to withstand long range trading.