It wasn't something that needed balancing though.
So UA bombing just got nerfed.
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It wasn't something that needed balancing though.
I do agree it should have been done long ago.
But it's not some silver bullet. It will still take more work than it would deserve. It will just be a bit closer to how easy you guys have it.
But if your issue is FD constantly caving in to forum pressure, isn't it a good thing they didn't cave it AD-cmdrs request for a counter? Its just that I get the impression a lot of your frustration comes from the idea that FD is acting against 'the bad guys' (RP-wise), rather than against 'emergent content' or always caving in to forum pressure. And while usually the bad guys are the ones spearheading emergent content, and the majority is usually unhappy about that and will complain, it doesn't mean that this is 'bias' from FD is what lead to this. And while I can appreciate people sticking up for unpopular 'minorities' of the community, I am not sure you're not being influenced by it when assessing indvidual cases that may be unrelated, or at least not intentionally related.
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Well, at least that'll put an end to any more "big payouts from Ceos and Sothis are and exploit, it's not intended gameplay" whingeing. I'm fully OK with UA bombing being a mechanic within the game, but I think it's fair that they've made the effort required to fix it a bit more balanced. Good result all round, I reckon
I see Nath is trying to spin this as some sort of moral victory for his lot? Hey, Nath, I ran into one who of your wingmates in Cail last night. Tell him "better luck next time" from me, won't you?
I see Nath is trying to spin this as some sort of moral victory for his lot? Hey, Nath, I ran into one who of your wingmates in Cail last night. Tell him "better luck next time" from me, won't you?
I'm not a bad guy and I'm for bad guys doing things.. I am a 'good guy' bad guys doing bad guy things gives good guys good guy things to do. Crazy how that works right?
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Goose4291
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I'm just using 'silver bullet' to describe it in the same way you'd say that penicillin's discovery was a silver bullet against bacterial infections, not that it's an immediate fix.
However speaking as someone who's done both sides of the mechanic, I can say that MA collection is a lot easier to do, which was why the numbers required was probably a lot higher as you can see below:
UA Collection
(i) Travel to system that is somewhere between 135-150ly (ish) off Merope.
(ii) Wait for RNG to give you a USS.
(iii) Pop in to USS.
(iv) If you're lucky it'll be a UA.
(v) Collect it
(vi) a: Pre Engineers run like a madman back to the station you're hitting. As long as you've got no more than 3 onboard, it can't burn through your cargo rack without the AFM stopping it.
(vi) b: Post Engineers, do as above but you can take your time, you can carry a maximum of 18t in a Annie allowing for shields and fuel scoop.
Ergo: One player can run between 3 and 18t of MA's safely per trip, depending on outfitting.
MA's
(i) Travel to barnacle site (which you can find from any reddit/cannon post regarding them).
(ii) Shoot barnacle. Scoop MA's and load into your ship.
(iii) Instance switch and repeat (ii) till fully loaded.
(iv) Return to your delivery point
Ergo: A trade cutter carrying 728t per run with a shield and a fuel scoop
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On the other hand, the UA bombers have the initiative and can plan their actions, while the MA haulers (you can just buy MAs can't you?) have to scramble to react. So play your cards right, like when there's some insanely lucrative CG going, and strike and you'll have them on the back foot.
If you like, I take the easy mode comment back and replace it with: too many variables and ignorance on my behalf to make a judgment on balance.
Yeah, it is balanced and more leverage against this bombing is given. Nice way to explain it with lore too.
Same here, not sure if you were thinking otherwise.
Thank you FD! You guys are awesome
Thanks to everyone who brought meta alloys too
And to all the griefers,
I guess FD doesnt mind us making money on long range missions. Too bad for you. If someone wants to grind and fly a big ship as a Novice then that is their business. You dont get to dictate how other people can play. However, if you had any honor you wouldn't be trying to grief novices and other newbies.
Thanks to everyone who brought meta alloys too
And to all the griefers,
I guess FD doesnt mind us making money on long range missions. Too bad for you. If someone wants to grind and fly a big ship as a Novice then that is their business. You dont get to dictate how other people can play. However, if you had any honor you wouldn't be trying to grief novices and other newbies.
I guess sometimes a tree does need fertiliser to grow.
Not what I would call griefing.
I would call this griefing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKqVn8muP5U
You must mean this:
[video=youtube;d5F8suI4l6I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5F8suI4l6I[/video]
Yeah that's pretty lame.
Regardless of your option it's a far better example of griefing - I don't think killing players via actual pvp is greifing in any context unless rules are somehow being abused.
I do think the speed limit vid is griefing - I also think is absolutely hilarious - because that dog is just so adorable.
And the rest of the world who aren't mentally deficient rejoiced because the mentally deficient are somehow less mentally deficient?
I don't know; you'd have to ask the "we deserve respect " Frogs...
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I don't know; you'd have to ask the "we deserve respect " Frogs...
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And here I used to think the Diamond Frogs were a respectable bunch. I guess not. Thanks for the video
dynamicbob
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actually its eaiser to bomb an outpost with a system population less than 1500 some only take 15 UAS, however its going to be only for those that want storyline and not player smuggling or powerplay impacts
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Jaques is where he is because his already been UA bombed and repaired and is now immune aginast further attacks, his had the techno virus, he applied antibiotic meta alloys and is now immune against that type of alien technology
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Jaques is where he is because his already been UA bombed and repaired and is now immune aginast further attacks, his had the techno virus, he applied antibiotic meta alloys and is now immune against that type of alien technology
In my book, that is 100% griefing.