This Whole 'Pilot Federation' Thingie...

shadragon

shadragon
CMDR's are members of the Pilot Federation by default. (Wiki here: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation)

Should membership in the Pilot Federation have any exclusive features? (I'm not including Founders World in this discussion, that's already exclusive.)

As the prime example, Engineer weapons and modules. Should players be the only ones that can get access to them? NPC's have their (cheating) AI, and when combined with engineered weapons can be a deadly, some would say OP combo. Why not just restrict NPC's from having them and simplify the equation overall?

Discuss.
 

Siranui

S
The exclusive feature is that you have a pilot rating and can claim bounties. Our ratings are all ministered by them.

NPC pilots are all members of the federation as well.

Only Deadly and Elite NPCs can have engineering mods. The others do not.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
Insurance is a Pilots Federation benefit. It has been mentioned that only player Commanders are members of the Pilots Federation. All NPC's are in fact non-members.
 

Brian of Ardagh

B
shadragon said:
CMDR's are members of the Pilot Federation by default. (Wiki here: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation)

Should membership in the Pilot Federation have any exclusive features? (I'm not including Founders World in this discussion, that's already exclusive.)

As the prime example, Engineer weapons and modules. Should players be the only ones that can get access to them? NPC's have their (cheating) AI, and when combined with engineered weapons can be a deadly, some would say OP combo. Why not just restrict NPC's from having them and simplify the equation overall?

Discuss.
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While only tangentially related to your query, I think there should be different pilot guilds. The time is now for the Pilots Federation to divest itself of the vile assassins and pirates that also claim membership. Those other professions should have their own federations or guilds exclusive to their specific "career". All said in a snooty voice while wearing a monocle!
 

Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
Siranui said:
Huh? Why do they have pilot federation ratings, then?
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That I don't know.

Regarding players being members of the Pilots' Federation:

Ashley Barley said:
FAQ- Elite: Dangerous
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How does multiplayer work?
You simply play the game, and depending on your configuration (your choice) some of the other ships you meet as you travel around are real players as opposed to computer-controlled ships. It may be a friend you have agreed to rendezvous with here, or it may be another real player you have encountered by chance. All players will be part of a “Pilot’s Federation” – that is how they are distinguished from non-players – so you will be able to tell who is a player and who is a non-player easily.

You will be able to save your position in certain key places (probably just in space stations, but possibly while in hyperspace too, if we feel it is needed). A save-and-quit option will be freely available at those points, as will the subsequent reload, but there will be a game cost for a reload following player death. Your ship will still be intact in the condition it was when the save occurred, but there will be a game currency charge (referred to as an insurance policy) for this. This is to prevent the obvious exploit of friends cooperating and killing each other to get each other’s cargo. If you can’t pay, then it will accumulate as an in-game debt, and the police may chase you!

There are no multiplayer lobbies, and the game will be played across many servers, augmented by peer-to-peer traffic for fast responses. Session creation and destruction happens during the long-range hyperspace countdown and hyperspace effect (which is a few seconds only), so is transparent to the player.

We have the concept of “groups”. They can be private groups just of your friends or open groups (that form part of the game) based on the play styles people prefer, and the rules in each can be different. Players will begin in the group “All” but can change groups at will, though it will be possible to be banned from groups due to antisocial behaviour, and you will only meet others in that group.
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Monk

Monk
Siranui said:
Huh? Why do they have pilot federation ratings, then?
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The rating system is a service the PF provides to aide in threat assessment. It is why the whole galaxy knows about them.

I think the primary perk of the PF is the fact that you can get a free sidewinder and will never be stuck planet side. A pilot in the Pilot's Federation would be a major embarrassment if they had no ship.
 

peteuplink

peteuplink
Robert Maynard said:
NPCs are not members of the Pilot's Federation.
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If that's correct then how do we have NPC bounty hunters with combat rankings? According to this article on Galnet, it's the Pilots Federation that issues both:

"As piracy became more prevalent, the Pilots Federation started issuing bounties on known pirate vessels. Some of those outside the organisation condemned the initiative as bloodthirsty, but few were able to argue with the impact it had on piracy. Shortly thereafter, the Pilots Federation introduced an official ranking system to reflect the number of combat victories achieved by each of its members. Pilots who accumulated the largest number of kills were awarded the title of Elite – a citation that became highly coveted among independent pilots."
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Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
peteuplink said:
If that's correct then how do we have NPC bounty hunters with combat rankings? According to this article on Galnet, it's the Pilots Federation that issues both:
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To collect bounties issued by Factions and SuperPowers, I would expect.

Pilots' Federation Bounties were discussed in the DDF as a separate type of bounty that would have been able to be set by players that had been attacked / destroyed by another player.
 

Siranui

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Robert Maynard said:
That I don't know.

Regarding players being members of the Pilots' Federation:
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Is it stated anywhere that NPC pilots are *not* members?

As I have understood it, all pilots are members and the bounties 'wanted' pilots receive are explicitly administered by the federation itself in order to 'clean shop'. If NPC pilots were not members, they would not have bounties and would not have a combat ranking.

Put another way: Is there a reason NPCs are *not* members?
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
"All players will be part of a “Pilot’s Federation” – that is how they are distinguished from non-players – so you will be able to tell who is a player and who is a non-player easily."

I think that quote pulled from R. Maynards citation says it all. How can you not interpret that to mean NPC's are not in the Pilots Federation?
 

shadragon

shadragon
Someone, in another thread, said pilot federation members were licensed to use jump drives, but NPC do that as well. Don't mean to muddle the discussion, but there it is.
 

Deleted member 110222

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NPCs don't have the "CMDR" suffix in their name.

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