Horizons Long Haul Exploration

Hope this isn't a stupid question, but, I want to do some serious exploration and the way I see it is, it's best to get 'out there'. So I am based at Khun which is well placed for 'day trips' out into the void, but what about really long haul stuff. If you go so far that it isn't practical to get back to a landing. I have to sleep sometime! If I exit and save with my ship floating in deep space do I continue from there at my next log in and is my ship safe from attack whist I am in the land of nod? Or am I missing something basic?
 
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people ;)

You can log out anywhere and you will log in back at that point. I usually get away from a star for a bit and try not to sit too close to any orbit lines. Your ship will be perfectly safe. The only time that does not apply is when you log out "unsafely", the game will then warn you and you will stay vulnerable for 15 seconds (a measure against "combat-logging").

Sidenote, I would make a point of always logging out on full tanks; that way you don't get back into the game and have your first jump end you out in the back-end of nowhere running on fumes.
 
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There are no stupid questions, just stupid people ;)

You can log out anywhere and you will log in back at that point. I usually get away from a star for a bit and try not to sit too close to any orbit lines. Your ship will be perfectly safe. The only time that does not apply is when you log out "unsafely", the game will then warn you and you will stay vulnerable for 15 seconds (a measure against "combat-logging").

Sidenote, I would make a point of always logging out on full tanks; that way you don't get back into the game and have your first jump end you out in the back-end of nowhere running on fumes.

this is solid advice.

just make sure, that you REALLY log out --- on my first trip to the core i forgot after a long session, and found myself destroyed the other morning, game still running.

beside that, for RP reasons, i always park at a waterworld, or land on a moon, before i turn off all moduls beside life support, and see my canopy freeze .... which isn't a safe way to do it, some players experience a rare bug where they find themself inside a planet after log in.
 
or land on a moon
I've been considering that, but honestly, the risk of waking up inside a planet outweighed the benefits for me. While it may happen only very rarely, "just once" is enough and on exploration trips it can be quite demotivating. I'll take a game I want to come back to over all the immersion in the universe :)
 
I've been considering that, but honestly, the risk of waking up inside a planet outweighed the benefits for me. While it may happen only very rarely, "just once" is enough and on exploration trips it can be quite demotivating. I'll take a game I want to come back to over all the immersion in the universe :)

each is own! landing is the only way, your thrusters are not turned back on, when entering the game again... :D
 
I also tend to land somewhere when logging off, despite it making no sense at all. But the more important advise I would give for long range exploration is: have a few heat sink launchers along. I might have been unlucky, but during a trip of about 12k LY total, hit three binary systems where only the heat sink launcher saved me from overheating and exploding. So better have a second or even third launcher on board if you plan to go really far. The Auto Field Maintainance unit on the other hand is very much optional. You really have to go very far or make some bad mistakes to actually need it.
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Hope this isn't a stupid question, but, I want to do some serious exploration and the way I see it is, it's best to get 'out there'. So I am based at Khun which is well placed for 'day trips' out into the void, but what about really long haul stuff. If you go so far that it isn't practical to get back to a landing. I have to sleep sometime! If I exit and save with my ship floating in deep space do I continue from there at my next log in and is my ship safe from attack whist I am in the land of nod? Or am I missing something basic?

Yes, logging out in space is safe.

Even if you have Horizons, it is the recommended way to do it, as the game occasionally glitches and spawns you inside the planet. If it does happen to you, you can fix it by logging out and restarting the game just as Elite Dangerous, not Horizons.

If you want the best of both worlds, Jaques is 22 kLY from the bubble and has Universal Carto. That gives you a long haul to see whether you like it (not everyone does), and gives you a base out in the Beyond to launch from if you decide to keep exploring.
 
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Just be aware that you may not be alone when you log back in if you've logged off on a planet. I stopped doing that after the third time I had 'company' in the form of a combat NPC ship when out in The Big Empty. Once I was attacked, and the other two times I high-waked out of the system before anything bad happened. It seems FDevs like to give even explorers some excitement. :eek:
 
Hope this isn't a stupid question, but, I want to do some serious exploration and the way I see it is, it's best to get 'out there'. So I am based at Khun which is well placed for 'day trips' out into the void, but what about really long haul stuff. If you go so far that it isn't practical to get back to a landing. I have to sleep sometime! If I exit and save with my ship floating in deep space do I continue from there at my next log in and is my ship safe from attack whist I am in the land of nod? Or am I missing something basic?

Due to how the game works with P2P connections (instead of a centralized server) once you are logged out of the game your ship "disappears". It doesn't consume fuel or anything else and can't be interacted with in any way by other CMDRs or NPCs because it doesn't exist in the game when you are logged out. After you've logged out you can stay logged out indefinitely and when you log back in your ship will return exactly how you left it. There are two exceptions to this, the first issue is that the position of the ship will often be slightly different (i.e., may be farther from a nearby star/planet/station) and you will re-enter the game in normal space even if you logged out in supercruise. The second issue is that if you log out during combat you might find that when you log back in you have slightly more hull than when you logged out as the updates are sometimes slightly delayed during combat. In general however if your ship is intact the moment you log out you will always find it in the same (or possibly slightly better) condition than when you left it even if the position of the ship is slightly different.
 
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As an fyi to all if you find yourself in a planet logout instantly, do not try to break the surface.

Go to desktop. Load the non-horizons game. Spawn in orbit. Re-log to horizons version. Profit. :D
 
I am a pensioner who plays EDH for 2-3hrs every morning. I went on a long term exploration trip in my Python, started in May and got back to base last week. I took my time using most economical course and used both the advanced disco and surface scanners and until the update which told us which mats were on planets after scanning I landed on every Planet/Moon which was available, after that I only landed on ones with a high percentage of 4 & 5 star mats. Every day after prospecting on the SRV I recalled my ship and saved the game ready to leave for the next system on my course. I had read about the so called inside planet restart bug but as their was a workaround I wasn't overly worried. In 5 months this would have been approx 150 overnight stays and not once did I wake up inside a planet. Not sure whether I would go on such a long trip again though and the financial rewards of 9.4mcr of mostly explodata + 64 tons of cargo picked up on surface needs looking at in my opinion. Anyway I wouldn't worry too much about the "bug" if my experience is average.
 
Just be aware that you may not be alone when you log back in if you've logged off on a planet. I stopped doing that after the third time I had 'company' in the form of a combat NPC ship when out in The Big Empty. Once I was attacked, and the other two times I high-waked out of the system before anything bad happened. It seems FDevs like to give even explorers some excitement. :eek:

how far out was this?

do you have a bounty on your head or are pledged to a power?

never had a npc spawning since 2.1. more then 1000 ly from the last inhabited system.
 
Just be aware that you may not be alone when you log back in if you've logged off on a planet. I stopped doing that after the third time I had 'company' in the form of a combat NPC ship when out in The Big Empty. Once I was attacked, and the other two times I high-waked out of the system before anything bad happened. It seems FDevs like to give even explorers some excitement. :eek:
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Aye. This also surprises me. I haven't seen any NPC, neither in space nor on a planet, since a while. (And I do even belong to a PP faction. I joined before going for the exploration trip, so now when I return I can just farm some reputation, buy the faction equipment and abandon PP again. ) I guess you were rather close to the bubble when that happened?
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