Menu log is legitimate as long as it's not done to avoid piracy and bounty hunting.
Out of interest, how do you know that? Is there an FD statement to that effect?
Menu log is legitimate as long as it's not done to avoid piracy and bounty hunting.
Piracy simply cannot be done in 15 seconds, and bounty hunting cannot be done either unless the logger's in a Sidewinder or some vulnerable ship.
The thing is that combat loggers mostly believe what they're doing is legitimate or that they think FD won't do anything about it (probably right at this point, or that we just don't know because they are big on no name and shame). So to prevent them from ruining other players' experience, they need to be removed as soon as possible upon encounter.
Hmmm.. can I just go silent running and you pretend I logged out?
Or maybe if I just went AFK. Would that work?
In the last 22 years of car driving, I had 3 speeding tickets. None of them even 2 digit. I refuse to change my lawful-chaotic behaviour just for the sake of a computer game.
Just ban them from open mode.
"Bounty hunting" cannot be done at all, since the instancing is too easiely cheeseable with "legitimate in-game means".
Seen that stuff live during the "Hunt" CGs.
At the moment, I actually only wish they'd add a working block/ignore, that simply stops people on that list from ever instancing with you. Keeps those numpties that don't want to play the game at all where they belong.
Just to clarify... A troll repeatedly destroying individuals without a single in game reason, purely because they get a kick out of causing others player grief, and knowing the game will ignore their actions... Who's ruining other players experience?
Just add PvE mode.
And another name on the KoS list, horayyyy.
I'm waiting for someone to get upset over the KoS list and call me a psychopath or something like that.
Then when I ask why isn't people screaming at the people who put me on KoS lists for being a pirate, then they go quiet or say that I deserve it because god forbid I play the game legitimately and reasonably.
*Chuckles in the background*
Then why daily do we hear of individuals being destroyed without a single in game reason? And these days all the quicker thanks to engineered weapons of course.People that do that can be avoided without touching combat log or menu log.
You're using the specific term "griefing"... I'm not...Also, while crime and punishment isn't being harsh enough in beating random PKers down, it's completely legitimate to attack random people for no apparent reason. It's only griefing when it's repetitive targeting and chasing down of a specific individual for the purpose of causing grief.
"Hunting and Killing Commanders whose Game Crashed upon the instance change from SC to Normal Space = Playing the Game legitimately and reasonably"
Source: GluttonyFang
Bounty hunting is simply a Cmdr hunting down a wanted target.
Then why daily do we hear of individuals being destroyed without a single in game reason? And these days all the quicker thanks to engineered weapons of course.
Remember... Not everyone has your level of knowledge of the game. Some people have just started playing today for example.
Are you OK with CMDRs simply picking on anyone and everyone, ideally the weaker the better, ideally operating in a Wing, to of course get no in game reward, and in truth only do it because they know killing a CMDR will cause some grief to them... Where as an NPC less so...
Personally I see the game allowing this sort of behaviour as counter productive. It's down to lazy mechanics rather than design.
The game would be all the better if it instead penalised such behaviour and instead orchestrated more consensual PvP mechanics for combat.
Yea, and quitting the game won't help people learn, if anything it does the opposite. And no one forced these people into Open, there is no bonus in Open anywhere.
That's a philosophical discussion, AIs are programmed to attack randomly and sometimes with fault. Human intention is open to interpretation. Like I said, crime and punishment need to beat random Pkers over the head.
As long as it doesn't make piracy impossible or ridiculous, sure.
Just like piracy, that works awesomely with NPCs but not with other commanders, despite them being on the top bounties boards and somewhere in the same solar system.
And with People like you around People Seriously wonder why hardly anyone wants to Play Open *gg*
*laughs in foreground*Menu log is legitimate as long as it's not done to avoid piracy and bounty hunting.
The thing is when someone does it over and over again it is pretty obvious and needs to be dealt with. Especially when they said it was an exploit a year and a half ago or so and they would be dealing with it. But then it was not the 1st lie frontier told us
As long as it doesn't make piracy impossible or ridiculous, sure.
Hopefully people don't think that avidly combat logging/abusive menu logging in Open is their way of strong-arming FD into adding a PvE mode, since that course of action is no different than Mobius invasion.
Awesome. Another Combat Logging thread, where those offended compare notes on how they define a Combat Log, and sit around commiserating on how much combat logging hurts their feelings, I mean immersion. I hope the Dev's hear your Kumbayas this time..... Only so they can have a laugh as well.