How do you counter a high wake?
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That makes it an exploit, not a cheat like pulling the plug is.
I combat logged a duck last night.
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How do you counter a high wake?
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Wake scanner.
In supercruise?
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OP got ownd by water foul imho :O
Not really a counter is it?
And from what I have read from people using it, that is an easy 'counter' to circumvent by doing a couple of hops.
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If he wakes out whilst you're both in SC, then you're out of luck as he caught on to your sneaky sneaky behaviours and rabbited.
That's just how it is and is not combat logging which is what the discussion is about, ergo, the assumption is one has already taken one's prey out of SC and now wants to get his mitts on that tasty phat lewtz, but the slimy cheeky git as made a runner for it by high waking (as per Ziggy's question) .. thus, you scan that wake and give chase.
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Well, it is kind of a counter. You're not stopping it from happening, but that doesn't mean when they do it you can't give chase which is, I believe, the actual intent for that mechanic.
If such is the case, FDev will need to change up the mechanic to allow for a true cat/mouse game that could prove really interesting to a lot of players. The thrill of the chase, and the thrill of being chased.
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If he wakes out whilst you're both in SC, then you're out of luck as he caught on to your sneaky sneaky behaviours and rabbited.
That's just how it is and is not combat logging which is what the discussion is about, ergo, the assumption is one has already taken one's prey out of SC and now wants to get his mitts on that tasty phat lewtz, but the slimy cheeky git as made a runner for it by high waking (as per Ziggy's question) .. thus, you scan that wake and give chase.
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Or the other player high wakes out after the interdiction and jumps to an other system and then jumps to the next one. In any case the player got away. So, no there is no counter to high wake.
I think they are fine, it creates game play.
I'm used to MMO/guilds/faction rivalry so I'm very comfortable with the idea of having a target painted on my head for supporting/belonging to certain faction/guild/play style.
Support ticket that got answered.
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Not at all actually, I defended my position properly, there's simply disagreements.
People that disagree with you aren't "automatically wrong," fyi.
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Actually, what is my agenda?
Having functional multiplayer game play?
That sounds about right .-.
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I wasn't aware that you could lose someone so quickly.
As I stated above, if such is the case then the mechanic needs a bit of work; scanning from SC, for example, would be a good start.
Mines with engineered effect reset FSD, speedy shield take down/module destruction/disruption.
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They are both considered exploits.
Thanks for your answers.
To bad it's just an image, but I think it's good enough for me. I hope that FD makes a post that clarifies this on this forum. It would provide the needed information for players to play according to the rules. Players shouldn't have to interpret the TOS or EULA or vague comments of developers to know if something is allowed or not.
Random murders and killers without any ingame reason "should be punished by restricting them to E-rated modules for a set time" ...
Sry but I can´t hear it anymore some want to join open without COD bashing in the game.
And, I never logged I always got destroyed.
I would show the entire page but then my personal information are all over it and I already got a death threat from playing this game.
Here's the ticket number though: [h=1]#00000114601[/h]
I'm sorry but that can't be. Pulling the plug is not making unintended use of a feature.
Menu logging in some circumstances can be, but it's not against any rule.
It's weird, I think it's a cheat too, but FD calls it an exploit:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/105778-Combat-Logging-Update
FD has shown with mode switch -> refresh BB thay they often get that wrong.
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LOL.
I am fairly Sure its not Intended to be used for Escaping.
But see Mate. Open is not Intended for Anacondas to be Griefing Sidewinders either
Thing is. "Not Intended" And "Prohibited" is two different things
Thats why you wont be Banned for being a Griefer and Seal Clubber
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Go ahead.
See Mate. No Offense. But someone who Proudly Threatens People for Voicing their Opinion in the Forum. Should not Expect that others are Nice to them.
3.
Chass, Mines, Boosts and Changing Direction.
All of these Actions will Reduce the Damage you Take considerably. And none of them are Possible during the Delay.
But even if we assume that its the same as High Wake. That would still mean that for you the guy is gone
4.
Players also dont get Compensated for Griefers abusing Open to Seal Club
And well guess what. It happens.
5.
Thanks for the Link.
Because it does already make your Earlier Statements Wrong
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For clarity’s sake, “combat logging” is when a Commander ungracefully exits the game (e.g. using ALT + F4 then shutting down the game process) to avoid defeat, destruction and damage.
"
As you can see. Using the Ingame Logout Function. IS NOT Combat Logging
And one more thing for you.
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First things first: we do consider this an undesirable exploit. It’s not “part of the game”.
"
Which is exactly what I said.
It is not something they Like. But it is (At least not as of yet) a Punishable Offense
Which is the Reason why Posts like these are done on Reddit and not Reported to FD to have the Person doing it Punished
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Well guess what I cant lol.
To Answer the Phone I would need to leave the Room.
Which means I would need to leave the Computer.
This would mean that even if I activated the High Wake. I would Crash into the Sun afterwards and then continue Full Speed towards the Sun in normal Space while not knowing when I return.
Worse if its something I cant just leave alone after answering. I would be easy prey afterwards cause I might end up drifting there for an hour or longer
You got a Problem with that ? Well. Your Problem I guess *gg*
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Actually I think you were asked this a few Times already.
But mind Linking this "Statement of FD" Because I never saw it.
And just like the other Announcement. I get the Feeling that your just Interpreting something to your liking without FD actually ever having said anything remotely in the meaning you want to claim there
Also. Once more. Not Intended for this Use. And Prohibited to be Used for this. Are two Different things
Did you know. The Chaff Launcher was meant to be used as an One Time Short Breather. It was never meant to be used in Dual to allow Permanent Chaffing
But its not Prohibited to do this
8.
Thats your Problem. FD has Decided to Implement it in this way. This might or might not Change.
However until it is Changed. It is and stays no Violation of Rules to use Logout during Combat.
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And I repeat. Go ahead.
I am not going to make up Lies.
As I told you there. People like you which consider other Players "Content" and thus Hunt and Kill People which stand no Chance in the First Place for no Reason and no Gain aside from this Person feeling Grief about the Event.
And going as far as threatening to kill People on sight simply for sharing their Opinion on the Forum.
IS the Reason why hardly anyone wants to Play Open. Feel Free to Report me for saying this. But I am not going to change that Statements meaning in the slightest.
And Mate no Offense to ya.
But your own Picture.
http://i.imgur.com/PblCY9n.png?1
What he Told you in a Nutshell.
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Its not the Intended use to escape Piracy. BUT it is considered to be Legitimate.
2.
If you think that this System is wrong and should be Changed. Make a Suggestion for a Better System which the Devs might or might not come to use in the Future.
None of this States at any given point. That using the Ingame Logout Function. Would be Prohibited or against the Rules
As I said before.
You going to Kill Sideys with an Anaconda is not what Open Play was Intended for either.
However. it is not something thats Prohibited.
Greetz Sun
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LOL.
I am fairly Sure its not Intended to be used for Escaping.
But see Mate. Open is not Intended for Anacondas to be Griefing Sidewinders either
Thing is. "Not Intended" And "Prohibited" is two different things
Thats why you wont be Banned for being a Griefer and Seal Clubber
2.
Go ahead.
See Mate. No Offense. But someone who Proudly Threatens People for Voicing their Opinion in the Forum. Should not Expect that others are Nice to them.
3.
Chass, Mines, Boosts and Changing Direction.
All of these Actions will Reduce the Damage you Take considerably. And none of them are Possible during the Delay.
But even if we assume that its the same as High Wake. That would still mean that for you the guy is gone
4.
Players also dont get Compensated for Griefers abusing Open to Seal Club
And well guess what. It happens.
5.
Thanks for the Link.
Because it does already make your Earlier Statements Wrong
"
For clarity’s sake, “combat logging” is when a Commander ungracefully exits the game (e.g. using ALT + F4 then shutting down the game process) to avoid defeat, destruction and damage.
"
As you can see. Using the Ingame Logout Function. IS NOT Combat Logging
And one more thing for you.
"
First things first: we do consider this an undesirable exploit. It’s not “part of the game”.
"
Which is exactly what I said.
It is not something they Like. But it is (At least not as of yet) a Punishable Offense
Which is the Reason why Posts like these are done on Reddit and not Reported to FD to have the Person doing it Punished
6.
Well guess what I cant lol.
To Answer the Phone I would need to leave the Room.
Which means I would need to leave the Computer.
This would mean that even if I activated the High Wake. I would Crash into the Sun afterwards and then continue Full Speed towards the Sun in normal Space while not knowing when I return.
Worse if its something I cant just leave alone after answering. I would be easy prey afterwards cause I might end up drifting there for an hour or longer
You got a Problem with that ? Well. Your Problem I guess *gg*
7.
Actually I think you were asked this a few Times already.
But mind Linking this "Statement of FD" Because I never saw it.
And just like the other Announcement. I get the Feeling that your just Interpreting something to your liking without FD actually ever having said anything remotely in the meaning you want to claim there
Also. Once more. Not Intended for this Use. And Prohibited to be Used for this. Are two Different things
Did you know. The Chaff Launcher was meant to be used as an One Time Short Breather. It was never meant to be used in Dual to allow Permanent Chaffing
But its not Prohibited to do this
8.
Thats your Problem. FD has Decided to Implement it in this way. This might or might not Change.
However until it is Changed. It is and stays no Violation of Rules to use Logout during Combat.
9.
And I repeat. Go ahead.
I am not going to make up Lies.
As I told you there. People like you which consider other Players "Content" and thus Hunt and Kill People which stand no Chance in the First Place for no Reason and no Gain aside from this Person feeling Grief about the Event.
And going as far as threatening to kill People on sight simply for sharing their Opinion on the Forum.
IS the Reason why hardly anyone wants to Play Open. Feel Free to Report me for saying this. But I am not going to change that Statements meaning in the slightest.
And Mate no Offense to ya.
But your own Picture.
http://i.imgur.com/PblCY9n.png?1
What he Told you in a Nutshell.
1.
Its not the Intended use to escape Piracy. BUT it is considered to be Legitimate.
2.
If you think that this System is wrong and should be Changed. Make a Suggestion for a Better System which the Devs might or might not come to use in the Future.
None of this States at any given point. That using the Ingame Logout Function. Would be Prohibited or against the Rules
As I said before.
You going to Kill Sideys with an Anaconda is not what Open Play was Intended for either.
However. it is not something thats Prohibited.
Greetz Sun
Out of Rep+1 CMDR! Both sides should enjoy the game but one side forces the other to do something.
When the fight starts and one of the 2 pilots just exits the game I blame him for that but it could be another 1000 reasons why he logged out so you will never know. Maybe FD should lower the fight Rank experience when you exit a fight for any reason.
