This, basically. The RNG nature of elite's content makes it near impossible to make a meaningful choice of ship to bring when travelling more than 20ly away from a "home base." Then, it's just punishing when retreving the right tool for the job would take hours.
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This, basically. The RNG nature of elite's content makes it near impossible to make a meaningful choice of ship to bring when travelling more than 20ly away from a "home base." Then, it's just punishing when retreving the right tool for the job would take hours.
And saying that you automatically discqualify yourself to even touch on subject. You DON'T KNOW why this game exists obviously. Zero. Imagine it is not there to serve your whims. Or you should have understand it by now.
Man, stop embarassing yourself. You talk to someone who's here since 2nd November of 2012. FD is publicly traded company who trades *MINORITY* shares. David is still a king who makes decisions. No, shareholders won't shut them down, and yes, they do rather well. Funny thing, they just published their results http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/FDEV/12958316.html
They will do just fine without you.
This game doesn't have to serve EVERYONE. It was designed with a purpose. Waiting is part of the gameplay. If you can't wrap your head around it then you play WRONG GAME. Gosh.
I'm suggesting people the game the way it was designed.
You can't buy an on-road motorbike and then get upset when you find out you can't take it off-road.
How is it "my" playstyle when what I'm suggesting is in line with the design of the current game?
How do you enjoy the game now?
I can't understand how someone can buy Elite Dangerous, and expecting any instant or teleportation feature... It's crazy ! Until now, there isn't any other ay to move a ship, than fly it during X jumps, and we are all playing the game !! The delay option is a great QoL improvement and it respect the world, galaxy, balance, FSD concept of the game ! This is a game about a BIG universe, this is a game about TRAVEL, this a game about living in space, not a simple space shooter. If your Instant option win, what next ??? Direct TP in mission USS ? Direct TP in any place, because, now, flying a ship is loosing time ??? Do you want to see in space only 50LY jump taxis ? Do you want erasing all the fitting aspect and choices from the game ? Do you want only modern instant "everything" and killing all about ED is ? I can't imagine, you, ED players, will vote instant, or if you do, well in fact you simply don't like ED, you like a dream, an another game, where you can choose from a menu screen where you want spawn and what you want to do. This kind of game don't need any 1:1 galaxy ! A CQC with FDL would be suffisant... May be a World of Space Ship is a game for you guys...
"I want Frontier to change the entire essence of 32 year old game to suit my desire for instant-gratification and everyone who also paid for the game and doesn't agree with me can just go away."
And then you actually try to open your post by criticising another player's maturity because of two words that have nothing to do with age.
Wow.
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So it is Hours Plural, a wait for any distance over 20 light years now?
Aside from fuel ratting, not much. I rarely have an opportunity to use the ships I'd like to fly without travelling for an unproductive amount of time.
Combined this with the mission RNG, RNGneers, and random outfitting from station to station and becomes a recipe for frustration due to the lack of information and tools present to make meaningful decisions.
[video=youtube;ea6UuRTjkKs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea6UuRTjkKs[/video]
Instant transfer would solve the issue by allowing access to the tools for the job, lessening the frustration from the randomness.
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You forgot to mention the instant pilot transfer and rebuy upon ship destruction though. Should take at least as long to be allowed to play again after ship destruction, as it took you to get from your last docking location to the point of your ship destruction. We can't have people instantly jumping in their polished replacement ships, it's not realistic.They need to feel the gravity of ship destruction in this simulation and must stand the consequences of their errors (shot down traders, especially!
This should totally be the case. Especially now that arena is available to pass the time whilst your capsule heads back.
Only instant option should be a clear save. For non explorers the delay would be minimal anyway, a handful of jumps
You can take time to the family, while wait transfer of your ship. I think that they will be happy if transfer will be with delay.
Buggrit, let's go realism all the way shall we, for that "authentic immersive" feel?
Let's strip out Supercruise and any form or superluminal travel that doesn't involve bending space.
Let's have combat where the player has no input beyond targeting a pixel thousands of kilometres away and letting the computers handle the firing calculations and countermeasures.
Let's have continual acceleration and speeds managed in G, where the player has to stay under a certain level or die.
Let's have no instant respawn at the last station you visited, with an identical loadout even when said station doesn't even sell those components.
Let's have mass-drivers that slow your ship down and lasers that require being held on target for prolonged periods of time before doing even the slightest amount of damage.
Let's have shields that don't protect against mass drivers at all, only energy weapons.
Let's have railguns that use whatever random crap piece of metal you've got lying around spare as ammo and will hole even the toughest of hulls.
Let's have communication technologies that are limited to the speed of light and require repeater beacons dotted throughout space.
This game is spitfires in space.
It was never meant to be realistic.
Take away the convenience, and while it would be an interesting game, it wouldn't be Elite.
Let's strip out Supercruise and any form or superluminal travel that doesn't involve bending space.
Let's have combat where the player has no input beyond targeting a pixel thousands of kilometres away and letting the computers handle the firing calculations and countermeasures.
Let's have continual acceleration and speeds managed in G, where the player has to stay under a certain level or die.
Let's have no instant respawn at the last station you visited, with an identical loadout even when said station doesn't even sell those components.
Let's have mass-drivers that slow your ship down and lasers that require being held on target for prolonged periods of time before doing even the slightest amount of damage.
Let's have shields that don't protect against mass drivers at all, only energy weapons.
Let's have railguns that use whatever random crap piece of metal you've got lying around spare as ammo and will hole even the toughest of hulls.
Let's have communication technologies that are limited to the speed of light and require repeater beacons dotted throughout space.
This game is spitfires in space.
It was never meant to be realistic.
Take away the convenience, and while it would be an interesting game, it wouldn't be Elite.
I feel the same. I understand that some people are going to want instant, and that's completely valid, but for me it comes down to do you want the game to more closely represent "The Martian" or "Buzz Lightyear".
Both excellent entertainment, but coming from very different directions.
Well written and exactly my thoughts, +++REP
Frontier is a public limited company.. so you can find out how much money ED makes.
Their Annual Report and Accounts for each year, which is downloadable from their website, make a good and very interesting read.
Here's the link if you're interested: https://www.frontier.co.uk/investor_relations/reports/
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We already have a way to solve the issue of having the right tool for the job, it's the compromise of flying a multi-mission design ship.
I'm assuming most people here have families and work related responsibilities. Assuming others don't is likely just a way to belittle them in your mind to rationalize the validity of your own preference over those of others.
It's easy to demonize the people you don't agree with. Doesn't make it appropriate though.
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I've had a change of heart. After seeing all of the ways an instant system could be abused by Explorer vessels I've voted in favour of the delayed version. However I've also got a suggestion about modules that isn't being discussed.
What if you could move your modules as cargo in addition to have a delayed transfer system option? It wouldn't be as game breaking as instant but allow those who want instant to have a constant cost if they want instant.
What if you could move your modules as cargo in addition to have a delayed transfer system option? It wouldn't be as game breaking as instant but allow those who want instant to have a constant cost if they want instant.
Oh yeah all hail the anaconda and all.
I do already and I hate it. I don't fly over half the ships I've purchased in-game due to the time-tax of simply travelling being too much per play session.
I think that's indicative of a design flaw currently in the game. One that an hour-long transfer won't fix. Sandro himself said specialist ships need some love.
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