Horizons The reason I uninstalled a second time, and then wrote a formal complaint to Frontier.

[dcforeman]

Yay community goals! I love them right!

Nope, why? Because they just screwed over the combat bonds model. I've not tried it in AGES. But I do remember when the first version of the game came out. I'd just jump in a viper or vulture and tare into battle! I'd walk away with 1,000,000 in credits. It was annoying when I died, and had to play the insurance but it was managable.

fast forward to 2016... OMG, why the      did I bother griding ALL that time for a         FDL? 100,000,000+ credits spent on the thing, and it's being taken down with god damned vipers and asp scouts!

Why?

        network problems again. I drop out into the combat zones, empty space.

I wait.

I wait some more.

3 minutes later... a blip on the screen. Yay, targets. I choose my side.

Every single god damned one turns red, turns on me, and starts blasting away.

OMG that should not be         allowed, if I wanted to get ganged I'd go play Eve Online.

I can only imagine there's some little sadist little      sitting behind a keyboard at frontier giggling to himself as he designs new seriously unbalanced code to      players over.

I've been reasonable until now. At this point, I'm putting in a formal complaint, and demanding a refund. I play games for entertainment, not so the vane in my head bursts.

I done with Elite. For all peoples talking of balancing, there's      all that I can see. If yoiu're going to take a 100,000,000 credit ship with a 4 million credit insurance, then make it completely         impossible to play the game. Expect to lose customers.

Jesus christ, a <oops> could make a better game than this. I can't beleive I waited 10 god damned years for frontier to make a game WORSE than First Encounters.

 

[Iskariot]

I really hope you get your refund.
I really, really do.

 

[Moonax IRL]

Usual rant due to lack of ability, blame the game for providing a challenge. Obvious answer is play something else less challenging and leave the game to more competent players. Bye.

 

[TrixX]

Yay community goals! I love them right!

Nope, why? Because they just screwed over the combat bonds model. I've not tried it in AGES. But I do remember when the first version of the game came out. I'd just jump in a viper or vulture and tare into battle! I'd walk away with 1,000,000 in credits. It was annoying when I died, and had to play the insurance but it was managable.

fast forward to 2016... OMG, why the did I bother griding ALL that time for a FDL? 100,000,000+ credits spent on the thing, and it's being taken down with god damned vipers and asp scouts!

Why?

network problems again. I drop out into the combat zones, empty space.

I wait.

I wait some more.

3 minutes later... a blip on the screen. Yay, targets. I choose my side.

Every single god damned one turns red, turns on me, and starts blasting away.

OMG that should not be allowed, if I wanted to get ganged I'd go play Eve Online.

I can only imagine there's some little sadist little sitting behind a keyboard at frontier giggling to himself as he designs new seriously unbalanced code to players over.

I've been reasonable until now. At this point, I'm putting in a formal complaint, and demanding a refund. I play games for entertainment, not so the vane in my head bursts.

I done with Elite. For all peoples talking of balancing, there's all that I can see. If yoiu're going to take a 100,000,000 credit ship with a 4 million credit insurance, then make it completely impossible to play the game. Expect to lose customers.

Jesus christ, a <oops> could make a better game than this. I can't beleive I waited 10 god damned years for frontier to make a game WORSE than First Encounters.

WOW what bloody mental hoops are you using to assume network problems? Sounds like you jumped into the point too early, and had a bit of a flight to the combat zone, then something went if they all went red on ya. OH right at the start of the event there was a ceasefire in effect which caused this issue where if you started a fight everyone killed you. Guess your googlefu skills are lacking...

Reddit > EliteCG covered this at the start. Just jump out and jump back in and it should be sorted. But hey problem solving isn't exactly your forte is it. B*tching however seems to be one of your most honed skills though.

 

[Artemis Zodiac]

alrite lads...alrite...leave it out...we have all had a drink.....

 

[Lunchmoney]

So what is the "formal complaint" about?

 

[Joey2o15]

and there's another 2 threads of equally interesting rants.....

 

[Valije]

No one cares... and I hope this thread will be closed like the last one.

 

[Eera]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1198/543265337_69a25e1c60.jpg

and there's another 2 threads of equally interesting rants.....

his post is such more interesting then yours !

 

[CaptainKremmen]

Please publish your formal refund request demand letter. I would like to read it.

 

[CMDR MERANGO]

I hear Toys R Us are doing good deals on board games, Monopoly may be the way to go for you!

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I can run a high CZ in my trading Python....


Just sayin'...


I also inadvertently agroed both sides, including both cruisers. And lived. Quite easily too.
Nothing in ED is particularly difficult anymore.
Long winded, yes. Difficult. Not even a bit.

 

[Modgier]

Wow - that was more salt than I should have all week in 1 post.

 

[dcforeman]

Thanks for the support from some people here. The rest, well. I guess if it don't affect them they don't care.

 

[Modgier]

Yes you are all amazing. A sky full of red dots, all focused on you. Of course you people would win easily. Also unicorns are real, my girlfriend is a super model, and I take regular picnics on the moon waring nothing but my birthday suit.

Please stop doing drugs guys, it's damaging your sense of reality.

Please post this on the main forum. Your amazing quality posting should not be reduced to this tiny subforum. The world should see your madness.

 

[fsdraconis]

I read this thread and what I see is a whole lot of people with no empathy. So many of you should be ashamed of your selves for acting this way. None of you treated the OP with respect except CMDR_Cosmicspacehead, Lunchmoney, and Artemis Zodiac.

You do not have to like the OP's opinion. But it does not give you the right to treat that person as a target for bashing. If you can not provide constructive posts. Do not post. Go somewhere else.

TrixX - This is a game. Not a job. No one should have to go to google to learn about problems.

Elite Dangerous is a complex bit of programming. But there are flaws in the programming. Frontier is not competent enough to keep the community aware of problems in its game. They avoid informing the community on whole about problems they are working to fix. When they know there is a problem they write patches to fix them. But how often do those patches get slated for delivery when the next content push into the game is made? The answer is over 90% of the time they are held onto. Possibly for months till the next content push.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Yes you are all         amazing. A sky full of red dots, all focused on you. Of course you people would win easily. Also unicorns are real, my girlfriend is a         super model, and I take regular picnics on the moon waring nothing but my birthday suit.

Please stop doing drugs guys, it's damaging your sense of reality.

I never said I won.
I said I lived.

As for the rest, Unicorns......

Your girlfriend may very well be a supermodel.

Why hasn't it been in the news?
Tim Peak was all over it, and all he did was go to the space station and break a window.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I read this thread and what I see is a whole lot of people with no empathy. So many of you should be ashamed of your selves for acting this way. None of you treated the OP with respect except CMDR_Cosmicspacehead, Lunchmoney, and Artemis Zodiac.

You do not have to like the OP's opinion. But it does not give you the right to treat that person as a target for bashing. If you can not provide constructive posts. Do not post. Go somewhere else.

The OP was completely disrespectful.
Swearing every other word is unnecessary, and makes posts difficult to read.
I often post constructive advise to people, I'll help anyone who asks.
But coming on here, just to swear and moan like a baby, and offer no constructive criticism, well, that just annoying, and i like returning the favour.

The OP could have said "Hey guys, I'm having trouble surviving in CZs nlw, can you offer some advise? Thanks!"

And more than likely he would have been inundated with excellent well written advice.
Probably even offered a wing up.

But no.
He didn't.

 

[Modgier]

I read this thread and what I see is a whole lot of people with no empathy. So many of you should be ashamed of your selves for acting this way. None of you treated the OP with respect except CMDR_Cosmicspacehead, Lunchmoney, and Artemis Zodiac.

You do not have to like the OP's opinion. But it does not give you the right to treat that person as a target for bashing. If you can not provide constructive posts. Do not post. Go somewhere else.

TrixX - This is a game. Not a job. No one should have to go to google to learn about problems.

Elite Dangerous is a complex bit of programming. But there are flaws in the programming. Frontier is not competent enough to keep the community aware of problems in its game. They avoid informing the community on whole about problems they are working to fix. When they know there is a problem they write patches to fix them. But how often do those patches get slated for delivery when the next content push into the game is made? The answer is over 90% of the time they are held onto. Possibly for months till the next content push.

Respect is earned.

 

[dcforeman]

The OP was completely disrespectful.
Swearing every other word is unnecessary, and makes posts difficult to read.
I often post constructive advise to people, I'll help anyone who asks.
But coming on here, just to swear and moan like a baby, and offer no constructive criticism, well, that just annoying, and i like returning the favour.

The OP could have said "Hey guys, I'm having trouble surviving in CZs nlw, can you offer some advise? Thanks!"

And more than likely he would have been inundated with excellent well written advice.
Probably even offered a wing up.

But no.
He didn't.

Why exactly should I respect frustrating gameplay plagued with network issues, with a system designed to beat you down faster than it rewards you?

If I wanted that, I'd just go do my job!

Btw, i'm a programmer myself. JavaScript, C++ and PHP. In program design, you produce software that focuses on core features and then delivers them well. I'm having trouble seeing what exactly Elite Dangerous does well. Surely it's not designed to create player frustration? what designer would make it that way? I'm not the only one who is frustrated, there's more than enough posts like mine going up.

when the kickstarter was going on they were talking about damage models, cargo spewing out, and other OMG features that were really unrealistic. Sure we might get it one day but only if you buy season upgrade 5 or something. They were discussing walking around the station and all that kind of stuff. Which does look like it's coming.

But you know what? The core features of Elite, aka the gameplay, the balance, the overall design feels cobbled together. It feels untested and unrefined. They overpromised, their didn't have the cash or man power to pull off the features they advertised, and updates are rolling out so slowly.

I dislike the "we'll develop it, once the customer has paid for it" approach.

Elite Frontier First Encounters was described as "the biggest lump of beta code ever installed on a customers PC", it's not quite so bad that you crash the game just by buying a ship. But you know what? With the constant network issues, it's not far off.

The game is mediocre, it's not fun. It doesn't engage, it fails to tell a good story, and it is so unfocused in all it's features that they feel under developed and spread too thin.

Given another 3 years development this may be a game worth having. Right now. We're just playing another First Encounters.

Worse still, while the game is being developed, they are planning to sell seasons that effectively mean you'll end up re buying all the features they offered in the beginning.