Best Flight Stick - suggestions needed

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
I would be lying if I said I was not tempted by the Warthog. How are the buttons on the throttle? Are there enough buttons vs toggles?
How do the toggles work? Would I be able to setup my landing gear, lights, and fa off as a toggle?

Sorry if these seem like newb questions, but It is not always clear from the advertising literature.
 

Marak

Marak
DragoonKnight said:
I would be lying if I said I was not tempted by the Warthog. How are the buttons on the throttle? Are there enough buttons vs toggles?
How do the toggles work? Would I be able to setup my landing gear, lights, and fa off as a toggle?

Sorry if these seem like newb questions, but It is not always clear from the advertising literature.
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The only thing that stopped me getting the Warthog is that there's no "twist to yaw". I've got too used to that to change to pedals so my choices have always been X52 pro or Thrustmaster. Thrustmasters are not as good as X52's, but they don't break as much (in my experience).
 

Infinity Eagle

Infinity Eagle
I know ,that I am strange, but I really like these
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mrsiCkstar

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Knowing the way Thrustmaster's programming works, you can set up the buttons and switches to work pretty much any way you want. I would recommend getting the Warthog. Buy right and buy once. It's expensive, but when you're buying your third X-52 because they don't hold up, you will have spent more than a Warthog and you'll still be stuck with a mediocre HOTAS.

As for enough buttons... there's enough to fly an A-10 Warthog in combat. In real life. And those guys don't even get shift modifiers. Compared to combat flight sims, ED actually has a relatively small amount of systems you need to control.
 

Pville_Piper

Pville_Piper
SheepDip82 said:
Holding on for the T.16000 FCS HOTAS, though been told by Thrustmaster it's still being developed, eta - by end of year
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October 2nd mate... September for Europe.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...080&cm_re=thrustmaster-_-26-280-080-_-Product

Infinity Eagle said:
I know ,that I am strange, but I really like these
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I have the Belkin Nostromo N52TE that I love for FPS games... But I like a hotas for flight simulation. I've already preordered the new Thrustmaster T1600M FCS from New Egg
 
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syngyne

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I love my X-55, no issues for 2+ years and the default control bindings for it are almost perfect. However, you are very much playing QA lottery with Saitek. It seems like some people's units break almost right out of the box.

I've been reading up on VKB, and the internals on their sticks look pretty solid, but it sounds like it'll be a couple of years before they put out a more modern stick design.
 

rote1

rote1
If you can find it, look for a Logitech G940 set, they have been out of production but I will cry if mine ever breaks...
 

Diomedian

Diomedian
I've got an X52 Pro, and I really haven't given it a fair trial, but I can't seem to gel with it. I actually just prefer to use my keyboard and Extreme 3D Pro: it reminds me of the '90s, when I used a similar setup to play obscene amounts of Descent and X-Wing. Those were good times . . . :eek:
 

Tanith Low

Tanith Low
I would personally avoid Saitek. Of the 4 permanent members of our player group we have had 6 faulty Saitek sticks. 2 X52 pro's and 4 X55's.

We now all use Warthogs and can honestly say they are excellent. You do get what you pay for. A small amount of program min nouse will let you do all kinds of nice stuff with it - power macros, shift functions, multiple modes. I use a set of the thrist master pedals with mine and have the toe brakes combined into a single axis which I use for vertical thrust. If you have the money you won't be disappointed.
 

Armia

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I got my T16000M few weeks back and I'm quite satisfied overall.

One downside is that it has too few buttons on the stick itself and too many on the base. Still, the stick itself feels very sturdy in hands, and has great precision due to its magnetic sensor system.

On a side note, I would suggest you stay away from Saitek(Mad Cat) and their products. Their sticks, even the ones priced at higher end levels, are without exception built with low grade materials and are very easy to break.
 
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scbfromnc

scbfromnc
I've had my CH Pro Throttle and Thrustmaster T16000m for 18 mos and love'em. No problems. CH makes quality throttles/sticks, but I need twist and Thrustmaster is incredibly good -- esp. at that price.
 

mojododo

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About to reinstall after a 6mth break and the idea of 2 sticks instead of using my warthog throttle intrigues me. Those who do it, how do you find adjusting throttle in battle, seeing as thrusters are left stick so would need hands on in battle on both?
 

CMDR Rison

CMDR Rison
I also have the Warthog and I love it. It has enough buttons/switches for all functions. You can have toggles work as buttons if you want. 1 year in and no sign of it slowing down.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Jypson said:
Saitek X52 Pro - Lasted about 4 months before falling apart. [down][down]

Saitek X55 - Have used it for a year now, some buttons are starting to not work. [up][down]

TM Warthog - Have used it for a year now, still as good as new! If you don't need twist-yaw, it doesn't get much better than this! The throttle is also really nice to use. I would prefer more buttons than toggles, but it's a solid HOTAS with no QA issues as of yet, and a great tactile experience. [up][up]
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I'm currently using the x52 and it works okay, but it does feel very cheap and I expect it to break any moment. I'm saving up for the Warthog, but I'm kind of at a loss for what to do about rudder control. After buying the Warthog I'll be lucky to have $100.00 left over for any other peripherals; suggestions?
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
I love the precision of the T16000m. The buttons are actually okay, but I dont like the placement of the buttons. I combine it with a T-flight HOTAS, so its no big deal, but if I didnt have a 2nd stick the button placement of the t16000m would be an issue.

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jasonbarron said:
I'm currently using the x52 and it works okay, but it does feel very cheap and I expect it to break any moment. I'm saving up for the Warthog, but I'm kind of at a loss for what to do about rudder control. After buying the Warthog I'll be lucky to have $100.00 left over for any other peripherals; suggestions?
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Personal opinion: Don't. Having all three axis on one limb is neuro-psychologically speaking superior. Strictly speaking I am pretty sure a joystick with a well-designed and placed throttle would beat a HOTAS if you have a button-pad for your second hand, but I have never seen such a stick. Seriously, a pink-controlled throttle would be insane with some practice. Stick+rudders is grand for simulators of real planes, but pointless for ED. Just my 2c...
 
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