So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Well, we have a third hint - I'm not sure if it has already been discussed and unfortunately I'm away and not beeing able to play the game. CoR has a borderline to patrol. If you are waiting for an enemy, you normally draw the border in a 90° angle to the direction where the enemy is coming from. Did anybody draw a line from the border to the rift and looked, if that line crossed the RR line and where?

Wouldn't this have to be an entire plane, since space isn't all that 2 dimensional? The only thing we have that is 2 dimensional is the RR line, which isn't even for certain part of the game. (Obviously it exists, but does it mean anything in the game?)
 
I searched around eafots and out into the centre of the rift on roughly the y50 axis. Didnt see anything unusual or noteworthy. Kitting out a python and heading back out. Might regret that with the low jump range but if i stumble across some angry aliens ima defend myself and claim a trophy!
 
Well, we have a third hint - I'm not sure if it has already been discussed and unfortunately I'm away and not beeing able to play the game. CoR has a borderline to patrol. If you are waiting for an enemy, you normally draw the border in a 90° angle to the direction where the enemy is coming from. Did anybody draw a line from the border to the rift and looked, if that line crossed the RR line and where?

If you search back in the thread for posts written by Dehzz, you'll see stuff in that regard.

Wasn't there a 2nd CoR patrol that was parallel to the first buy just sw of H&S and EAOFTS?

Dehzz reported a high number of earths, ammonia and terraformables and a "corrected R-R Line" line from sol through the center of H&S and the CoR patrol line to the far outer arm. As well south-west of about -14000,0,-14000 Dehzz found a parallel strip or cluster of stars about another 200-300 lyrs beyond the rim and wanted to reach them suggesting the gap as a New Formidine Rift. Dehzz wanted to find away across and it looks like if possible at all you'll need very many level 3 fsd jumps to make it.

They suggested a 1000 lyr area search around oob phlai zl-y c0, noted a high earth triangle between phrae dryue yx-f d12-0, oob phlai tx-u c2-0 and eowyg aeb gf-r d4-0, and some across the outer rift targets, AICONG GX-L D7-0, phreia dryai am-j d10-0 and PHOOE EUHN YD-K D8-0.

I searched a bit out there but it was inconclusive.

Need a lot of Polonium which at best appears in 1/100 to 1/50 spawns,,,times 50 times bad luck factors,,,,,a lot of time.
 
If you search back in the thread for posts written by Dehzz, you'll see stuff in that regard.

Wasn't there a 2nd CoR patrol that was parallel to the first buy just sw of H&S and EAOFTS?

Dehzz reported a high number of earths, ammonia and terraformables and a "corrected R-R Line" line from sol through the center of H&S and the CoR patrol line to the far outer arm. As well south-west of about -14000,0,-14000 Dehzz found a parallel strip or cluster of stars about another 200-300 lyrs beyond the rim and wanted to reach them suggesting the gap as a New Formidine Rift. Dehzz wanted to find away across and it looks like if possible at all you'll need very many level 3 fsd jumps to make it.

They suggested a 1000 lyr area search around oob phlai zl-y c0, noted a high earth triangle between phrae dryue yx-f d12-0, oob phlai tx-u c2-0 and eowyg aeb gf-r d4-0, and some across the outer rift targets, AICONG GX-L D7-0, phreia dryai am-j d10-0 and PHOOE EUHN YD-K D8-0.

I searched a bit out there but it was inconclusive.

Need a lot of Polonium which at best appears in 1/100 to 1/50 spawns,,,times 50 times bad luck factors,,,,,a lot of time.

The mystery of the rift doesn't require engineered jumps though, but he may find something else out there!
 
The significance of EAFOTS:

Everything we learn 'directly' from the Old Woman points to the far side of the Rift, and yet EAFOTS is on the near side.
If the Old Woman had intended Salome to search the EAFOTS sector, then the RR line and the Rift descriptions are completely irrelevant - the instructions would be 'Go to Heart and Soul and have a look around', consequently, I think we can assume that the 'answer' is not in EAFOTS.

So why the clue?
I see two possible scenarios here.
Either EAFOTS is purely a directional indicator, reported in Galnet to publicize the Rift mystery to the entire player base, not just those active on the forum/reddit threads.
Or there is something to be found in EAFOTS which will advance the story - and presumably indicate a search location on the far side of the Rift.

My personal feeling is that it's the first option - with FDev having massively underestimated the enthusiasm and single-mindedness with which the community would approach a brute-force search of the EAFOTS sector.

Or ... remember that Drew said your location of the Rift is only 'broadly correct' (to paraphrase), and consider that maybe TOW meant our arm of the galactic spiral when she said to travel to the edge of it. That would place the Rift between our and the uttermost arm, and EAFOTS effectively on the Rift's far side. EAFOTS *is* passed the Rift?
 
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the old woman and the supposed younger recording of her are unreliable characters. They are both products of memory manipulation.

That being said, they're also providing opposing directions. One suggests nobody who has been in the rift has survived to come out and we assume that means her as well since she only got to the edge of the rift. So she says. The recording however, tells you that you must plot through the rift and what you have to find is either part way or all the way on the opposite side of the rift.

And so the conflicting theories on where to search continue.
 
Perhaps something engineered or designed is what we are looking for as has been stated many times before. I'm starting to think the "core of the problem" is the "core worlds," and they are the problem, and those in charge did something and banished it out into the Rift. Many do think the engineered or designed AI or plague or perhaps a cross between Thargoid/Human or Thargoid/Human/AI or just Thargoid/other alien species could be what we are looking for so it could make sense that the "core of the problem" is the "core worlds" and those who are there. Of course, where that leads... ?????

Obviously no new revelation but maybe the "core of the problem" is a reference to the "core worlds" rather than a heart or the galactic core?
 
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I have been wondering if there is a connection to the Jellyfish nebula.

Jellyfish in Latin is 'Carnivorous Medusa'. Medusa is of course central in Greek mythology. We even have a Medusa paint job in ED.

Medusa's myth is supposed to originate from the Berbers. She was a consort of Hades, before she was cursed by Athene. Persephone can be seen as her replacement, by the side of Hades.

Half way between Heart and Jellyfish there is a band of lower star density, stretching towards the Bubble and cutting thru the Perseus Arm. It looks a bit like a rift to me (about -2500, 400, -5000).

When I'm done with collecting Modular Terminals, I'm heading that way. :D
 
Perhaps something engineered or designed is what we are looking for as has been stated many times before. I'm starting to think the "core of the problem" is the "core worlds," and they are the problem, and those in charge did something and banished it out into the Rift. Many do think the engineered or designed AI or plague or perhaps a cross between Thargoid/Human or Thargoid/Human/AI or just Thargoid/other alien species could be what we are looking for so it could make sense that the "core of the problem" is the "core worlds" and those who are there. Of course, where that leads... ?????

Obviously no new revelation but maybe the "core of the problem" is a reference to the "core worlds" rather than a heart or the galactic core?

I tweeted some time ago 'core of the problem = core worlds?' to Drew, but got no reply (perhaps he missed it). But that has long been my personal take on that clue.
 
That's some serious research. Interesting!

My take is that there's something either in or past the rift. No way would such an easily deciphered clue lead to the end game. Eafots must therefore be either a guidance point or a stepping stone.

Either way i love how stuff like this captivates some of us ;)

I am thinking Eafots is more a guide, the RR line deviates a little west of the H&S, if memory serves, so perhaps it's really designed to guide is more accurately the way we should be going. The key is the door and all (I think the H&S may be the door being spoken of - I'm pretty sur eI remember this being brought up before).

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Just a couple of observations I have made about the rift sectors. There is a high abundance of lone A, B & F class stars with no associated systems. I know this is not unheard of but it tends to be the norm for them to have a fairly diverse system in tow and more likely for a red dwarf or older, colder & dimmer stars to be alone or have just a few icy moons. Also the high abundance of ammonia, earth like and water worlds. I have never seen so many. Its almost every second or third system has them in the region of space and quite often in pairs.
 
I tweeted some time ago 'core of the problem = core worlds?' to Drew, but got no reply (perhaps he missed it). But that has long been my personal take on that clue.

Core is sufficiently vague that it could refer to anything. Core of the rift? Core of the story (Kahina? Cors mythology?) Core worlds? Heart nebula (Latin "cor" in old lady ship name). As far as clues go this one's a dud :)

Taking the RR line as a pointer, the CoR patrol line and Heart and Soul as borders, and EAFOTS as an area of interest we've got a fairly consistent if unhelpfully large region of space to work with, basically "EAFOTS and beyond".

Maybe if we go shake down down the government in the system where Kahina disappeared we might learn something. Sounds like a lot of work though for a possibky non-existant reward.
 
So, finished what I was doing, switched to my ASP and got it up to 44LY fully armed, and armored. I did about 1000ly yesterday headed in the direction of EAFOTS. Is there a semi useful tool to plot a route, short of just eyeballing it? I haven't had an issue with scoopables or range yet, but I'd like to catch the RR line and head that way, since it's technically the only solid clue about the rift location. Drew's "broadly correct" doesn't really do it for me. I need something to do for the next few weeks anyway.
 
I have been wondering if there is a connection to the Jellyfish nebula.

Jellyfish in Latin is 'Carnivorous Medusa'. Medusa is of course central in Greek mythology. We even have a Medusa paint job in ED.

Medusa's myth is supposed to originate from the Berbers. She was a consort of Hades, before she was cursed by Athene. Persephone can be seen as her replacement, by the side of Hades.

Half way between Heart and Jellyfish there is a band of lower star density, stretching towards the Bubble and cutting thru the Perseus Arm. It looks a bit like a rift to me (about -2500, 400, -5000).

When I'm done with collecting Modular Terminals, I'm heading that way. :D

I added Jellyfish to my Nebula collection last month and didn't encounter any weirdness - although I wasn't really looking for any.

Good catch about Medusa though :-D
 
I tweeted some time ago 'core of the problem = core worlds?' to Drew, but got no reply (perhaps he missed it). But that has long been my personal take on that clue.

I felt much the same way - focusing my attention on the Bubble, and particularly Persephone system (Kore in the core).
However, our ability to interact with the mystery in that area is limited, as far as I can tell, to 3 activities:

1. Scan systems
2. Read local Galnet articles
3. Ally with factions

I've done all three of those up the wazzoo, without even the vaguest suggestion that it's having any effect. It's a little disheartening.

Anyway, I'm out Riftwards now, collecting exploration data so I can get allied with the Dark Wheel when I get home to the Bubble.
 
I have been wondering if there is a connection to the Jellyfish nebula.

Jellyfish in Latin is 'Carnivorous Medusa'. Medusa is of course central in Greek mythology. We even have a Medusa paint job in ED.

Medusa's myth is supposed to originate from the Berbers. She was a consort of Hades, before she was cursed by Athene. Persephone can be seen as her replacement, by the side of Hades.

Half way between Heart and Jellyfish there is a band of lower star density, stretching towards the Bubble and cutting thru the Perseus Arm. It looks a bit like a rift to me (about -2500, 400, -5000).

When I'm done with collecting Modular Terminals, I'm heading that way. :D


Good luck, & watch your six! I'm still grinding the Engineers, got to level 3 with Qwent but no sign of a Palin invitation yet.
It does make sense that the Rift is not quite where we think it is, since we haven't found much (anything) yet; that statement of Drew's that the map location is "broadly correct" leaves too big a margin for my liking - he admits to liking wordplay.
I've been wondering if the Wayfarer's Graveyard is part of the Rift mystery- that something is coming out of the Rift & destroying the ships there (or maybe that's where "it" is?).
And my Google translate says the Latin for Jellyfish is ... Jellyfish; didn't realise I could speak Latin! Frontier non carborundum!! :D

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So, finished what I was doing, switched to my ASP and got it up to 44LY fully armed, and armored. I did about 1000ly yesterday headed in the direction of EAFOTS. Is there a semi useful tool to plot a route, short of just eyeballing it? I haven't had an issue with scoopables or range yet, but I'd like to catch the RR line and head that way, since it's technically the only solid clue about the rift location. Drew's "broadly correct" doesn't really do it for me. I need something to do for the next few weeks anyway.

ED Discovery is pretty good, and has map overlays that include the RR line and "broadly correct" Rift location.
see the EDD thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/138155-EDDiscovery/page135
 
Good luck, & watch your six! I'm still grinding the Engineers, got to level 3 with Qwent but no sign of a Palin invitation yet.
It does make sense that the Rift is not quite where we think it is, since we haven't found much (anything) yet; that statement of Drew's that the map location is "broadly correct" leaves too big a margin for my liking - he admits to liking wordplay.
I've been wondering if the Wayfarer's Graveyard is part of the Rift mystery- that something is coming out of the Rift & destroying the ships there (or maybe that's where "it" is?).
And my Google translate says the Latin for Jellyfish is ... Jellyfish; didn't realise I could speak Latin! Frontier non carborundum!! :D

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ED Discovery is pretty good, and has map overlays that include the RR line and "broadly correct" Rift location.
see the EDD thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/138155-EDDiscovery/page135

Thanks, I'll check it out!

Should have mentioned I'm on Xbox. I could run this on my surface while I play, but it won't communicate. Anything else out there?
 
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Thanks, I'll check it out!

Should have mentioned I'm on Xbox. I could run this on my surface while I play, but it won't communicate. Anything else out there?

From EDSM. And this is why we will not find whatever is in the rift until they want us to.

As of today 0.001343% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 130,449 years, 2 months and 21 days to discover it entirely

Obvioulsy not everyone uses EDSM, but the ones that do are primarily explorers, and that is all they've discovered?
 
From EDSM. And this is why we will not find whatever is in the rift until they want us to.

As of today 0.001343% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 130,449 years, 2 months and 21 days to discover it entirely

Obvioulsy not everyone uses EDSM, but the ones that do are primarily explorers, and that is all they've discovered?

Galaxy is like... Very very... Very not small at all. :p




How can I help to help you find that rift? I'm curious and I haven't done any exploration before.
 
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