So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
KuroNyra said:
Galaxy is like... Very very... Very not small at all. :p




How can I help to help you find that rift? I'm curious and I haven't done any exploration before.
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EDSM shows the RR line, which is the strongest clue so far. I'm going to head that route, at the same elevation as riedquat and reorte, (I believe they are very close or the same) and see what happens. It's my first big expedition too, because I don't play much and I was tied up "trying" to help out on the UA / UP thread. They say you can find it with "about" 27 ly range, but more should be better, or at least less dangerous. I'm at 44 if I strip fuel, and 41 with full tanks, so I feel pretty safe.

Of course the flip side of this, in case you haven't been following the thread, is no one knows what we are looking for either.
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
ActualSpacePimp said:
From EDSM. And this is why we will not find whatever is in the rift until they want us to.

As of today 0.001343% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 130,449 years, 2 months and 21 days to discover it entirely

Obvioulsy not everyone uses EDSM, but the ones that do are primarily explorers, and that is all they've discovered?
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Things are going a lot more quickly since FDev included system coordinates in the netlog file.
Previously it required you to manually enter ranges to target systems so that EDSM could triangulate where you were at, which massively slowed down exploration.
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
ActualSpacePimp said:
From EDSM. And this is why we will not find whatever is in the rift until they want us to.

As of today 0.001343% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 130,449 years, 2 months and 21 days to discover it entirely

Obvioulsy not everyone uses EDSM, but the ones that do are primarily explorers, and that is all they've discovered?
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You realise that 0.001% is one man alone, right? And the 0.000343 is everyone else.

I speak, of course, of CMDR Allitnil..

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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
ActualSpacePimp said:
EDSM shows the RR line, which is the strongest clue so far. I'm going to head that route, at the same elevation as riedquat and reorte, (I believe they are very close or the same) and see what happens. It's my first big expedition too, because I don't play much and I was tied up "trying" to help out on the UA / UP thread. They say you can find it with "about" 27 ly range, but more should be better, or at least less dangerous. I'm at 44 if I strip fuel, and 41 with full tanks, so I feel pretty safe.

Of course the flip side of this, in case you haven't been following the thread, is no one knows what we are looking for either.
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My AspX runs at 42LY with a full tank and it crossed the Rift without breaking sweat - you'll be fine.
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
DrewCarnegie said:
Things are going a lot more quickly since FDev included system coordinates in the netlog file.
Previously it required you to manually enter ranges to target systems so that EDSM could triangulate where you were at, which massively slowed down exploration.
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Oh yes... I remember those days. It took me ~150 distances entered to plot the first system beyond the 65k from Sol mark. About 120 of those were failed plotting attempts...

Z...
 

Allitnil

Allitnil
Zeeman said:
You realise that 0.001% is one man alone, right? And the 0.000343 is everyone else.

Is peak, of course, of CMDR Allitnil..

Z...
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A slight exaggeration ;)

There again, I only started using EDD/EDSM in January and it has fewer than half of the systems I've been to...
 

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
DrewCarnegie said:
Nah, didn't go out to the edge, I was just doing a flyby rather than a deep investigation.
But certainly for traversing the Rift 40+LY will do you fine.

There'll always be another star just out of reach, not matter how big your jump range :)
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I'm not sure how far I'll be motivated to go, but I want to try to stick to the same elevation as RR as much as possible, and hopefully find SOMETHING.
 

Allitnil

Allitnil
DrewCarnegie said:
There'll always be another star just out of reach, not matter how big your jump range :)
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Not really true these days. It does apply when considering systems far above or below the galactic plane, but in terms of heading in a particular direction along the plane you can reach almost all of them (eg the absolute furthest systems "north", "south", "east" and "west" have been tagged as have the furthest from Sol and Sag A*).
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
H&S sure look funky looking back from about 500LY towards the rim. The dust clouds make them almost look like UA's, or jellyfish...


I also noticed that from about 100-500LY from H&S (towards the rim) my load times were quite... Long. Not sur eif there are server issues, high loads, or whatever, but I've got 40mbps up and down, so just wondering if something extra is being loaded in this region - anyone else notice something like that?
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Saool

Saool
ActualSpacePimp said:
I'm not sure how far I'll be motivated to go, but I want to try to stick to the same elevation as RR as much as possible, and hopefully find SOMETHING.
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I did the same, and kept going till I was a little over 16Kly from home, at which point I took a right and started moving down the Outer Arm for a few Kly. I did find a couple of unexplored Neutron Stars which I was hoping to bag, however by the time I had gotten home and handed in my data, both had been bagged by others.

Which makes me want to point out that, just because systems and bodies don't have a 'first discovered by' on them, does not mean people have not visited. There was a comment a hundred pages back from someone, saying the line they were following through the rift was unexplored, because every system was clear of first discoveries. I did not say anything at the time, but I was thinking that is not at all guaranteed. I've crossed hundreds of light years of apparently un-visited systems only to find one Water World with a first discovered by, and not even the main star was scanned.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Allitnil said:
Not really true these days. It does apply when considering systems far above or below the galactic plane, but in terms of heading in a particular direction along the plane you can reach almost all of them (eg the absolute furthest systems "north", "south", "east" and "west" have been tagged as have the furthest from Sol and Sag A*).
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Don't ruin my cod-Eastern philosophy with your facts.
 

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
Saool said:
I did the same, and kept going till I was a little over 16Kly from home, at which point I took a right and started moving down the Outer Arm for a few Kly. I did find a couple of unexplored Neutron Stars which I was hoping to bag, however by the time I had gotten home and handed in my data, both had been bagged by others.

Which makes me want to point out that, just because systems and bodies don't have a 'first discovered by' on them, does not mean people have not visited. There was a comment a hundred pages back from someone, saying the line they were following through the rift was unexplored, because every system was clear of first discoveries. I did not say anything at the time, but I was thinking that is not at all guaranteed. I've crossed hundreds of light years of apparently un-visited systems only to find one Water World with a first discovered by, and not even the main star was scanned.
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Before I get there, are the COR bases on the edge of the rift actual bases with outposts?
 

Allitnil

Allitnil
DrewCarnegie said:
Don't ruin my cod-Eastern philosophy with your facts.
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Sorry :D

Your comment was basically true pre-Engineers but the way the galaxy is procedurally generated doesn't allow for an ever decreasing density (as is likely the real-galaxy case) and with jumps of 120 LY now being feasible (plus it being relatively easy to gather jumponium materials in quantity) the limits of the proc-gen can be achieved without great difficulty.
 
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