engineer mods to Scanners?
So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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engineer mods to Scanners?
Agreed. Personally I would take this as the connection involving story lines, not necessarily the mysteries themselves (and their clues). Imho FD, now under the Drew's iron fist rule, is (kinda ex post) connecting before separate mysteries into proper story arch. That would explain why the thing that was in game supposedly from gamma is suddenly connected with newer things.
Of course, if they feel especially evil, new clues could be interconnected, but (imho) not the original ones.
surely they are, there is an overriding conspiracy behind all the background stuff. However, without moving the story on in-game, we'll just be sat around Hawkings Gap the same as we're sat around the Rift and the Pleiades. I hope they let us solve one mystery at a time, these places take a loooong time to get to
Are you not the only one that sees that stuff? no one has replicated it, and you use your own colors. It sounds like you screwed up your files. Untill someone else can replicate what you are seeing you should just accept it is a bug.
As I'm Allied to the Dark Wheel, after 2.1 went live I've been looking at doing more missions for them.
So I went to one of the Dark Wheel controlled planetary bases - specifically Neumann Camp - and found some interesting things there...
1) Neuman Camp appears to be some sort of observatory of some kind
The appearance of this base struck me as odd.
There are two of these buildings - same design - and both have what I can only describe as a telescope of some kind - radio? Optical? Both? Or is it a transmitter? Who knows...
Also, on the above screenshot - have a look at the roof - there is a logo there - more on that later.
2) One of these "telescopes" is aiming at a specific area...
I thought that was interesting. I wondered if that was just some accident of the planet's rotation, so I investigated which area of the sky this thing is aimed at...
It appears to be aiming towards a permit locked area of space known as Col 70 Sector.
I couldn't get an exact marker due to time constraints, but the following two screenshots give a good indication...
This is interesting in and of itself.
I hear your skeptical question : "But Genar, this could just be a coincidence!" - I hear you, fellow skeptic! All I can say is, I logged off of the game for a few hours as I had to go out and do stuff in real life. When I came back on the game, the "telescope" was still aimed at the same area of space - so maybe the planet this base is on doesn't move or rotate?Who knows...
The other "telescope" is aimed at the same angle, but in a 180 degree opposite direction, into the galaxy. I did not have the time to see if I could figure out the line it flows through.
3) The logo on top of the two "observatory buildings"...
Here is the logo in question...
I am unsure if it has any significance whatsoever - or whether this is a breadcrumb trail deliberately dropped by FDEV and whomever is helping to write the ongoing storyline. All I know is that 1) This is a cool logo and 2) I wonder if there might be some information encoded within said logo - that is not my forte so I'll leave that as an exercise for others to ponder over and possibly decode if there is information in there to be gleaned.
And that's all I have for now. I will continue following the Dark Wheel trail. Thank you for reading
Hi all, new to the forums so let me just apologise in advance if this is posted in the wrong place or for any other etiquette violations!
Anyway... was reading through some old stuff on the thread and wondered if anyone had followed up on this Neumann Camp stuff now that Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 has been identified via the UPs?
I've done a bit of a search via google and the forums search function to check before posting this but couldn't really find anything easily via that route, but apologies if I've just completely missed it.
Anyway, in case it's not already been done, here's what seems to follow as a result...
Parametric equations for the Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 to Neumann Camp line are:
x = 55.72 - 631.34t
y = 17.59 + 380.12t
z = 27.16 + 724.22t
The crossing point with the RR line is 3.97, 48.75, 86.53 and the nearest system is LP744-46 at 4.55ly away.
The closest system at the same distance as the Col 70 one from Neumann Camp in the opposite direction (-575.62, 397.71, 751.38) is IC 4665 Sector AA-Z d0 at 50.35ly away from the line.
First few systems along that direction are:
Bunus
23 Librae
LP 744-46
3 Upsilon Ophiuchi
Ross 641
Col 285 Sector DJ-L b23-4
Hope that's all useful and apologies again if that's all already been covered and I've missed it!
I reverted back, the colors are 3 lines. They also won't cause what I'm seeing. It was one text file, I even did a file sync which put them back to default and it still occurred.
And, I also filed a bug report that nothing came back from. Still exists in 2.2 beta which is using a different file set except the cfg file which is only 3 lines to change the color matrix, AND I've reverted back to default - still there, AND I've changed drivers multiple times - still there. Changing the color matrix is not going to cause anything like what I've posted. Not at all.
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I'm still on the fence about it being a bug - despite visiting a 'problem' system and not seeing the issue.
If we assume it's not a bug, then the question becomes "What is the in-game trigger that controls its appearance?"
Have you been back to the Bubble since you saw it? I'm guessing not, since the system showed as undiscovered when I visited. Maybe you should head home and visit some of the systems mentioned in the Kahina/Salome Galnet posts. You might see something there that none of the rest of us see. Beta is probably a good time to do this, since you won't lose anything.
Oh, and do me a favor and search fot 'Beta Phoenicis' on the galaxy map. Thx.
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Yep, I haven't been back to the Bubble - a few times I've started to go but then something clicked and I thought I'd try a new approach only for that to fail.
Yeah, it's definitely odd for sure. Although I think I may be the only person who is in the Rift that has SLI - so that could be it. It would be very odd though that it would be the same systems that have the same issue each time, all SLI issues I've encountered are all or nothing. There is a SLI issue where the dark side of planets that can be landed on with lighten/darken issues so it briefly lights up then briefly goes back to being dark but it happens to all of them - and same with asteroid belts. So it's odd that if it is SLI, it only happens to some systems and that it has only been noticeable out where I'm at. For sure I would have noticed blank entries and random stuff before in the Bubble since I jumped around several hundred LY in a Vulture that had 14LY capable FSD - so I was jumping a lot to say the least. So if it is a "bug" it must be a SLI bug, its just a very odd manifestation of a SLI bug just due to the nature of it's random but consistently random appearance.
I checked beta phoenics, and it took me way out of the galaxy. I'm guessing that's what it did for you as well. However, I did see a "blip" when I got there and kept clicking on the button to go to the system. So I recorded it, and it appears to reset and go to the system and then shoot all the way back to no where. That is definitely an odd one.
Here's two screenshots from the video I took:
It goes from coords 8230:-10985:3740 to 8230:-2650:3740 where the star system apparently is located (as far as E : D is concerned at least, like when some objects are placed outside of the game map kind of thing)
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'Bugs' that only happen in certain systems just feels like too much of a coincidence.
The Beta Phe issue seems to be that the Y-coordinate (vertical from the galactic plane) is set to ~-25k - but the map only scrolls to ~-10k, which causes the weird behavior with it not being selectable.
It should be in the Bubble, around 200LY from Sol, so it's not even in remotely the right place - X- and -Z coords are way off too.
Raised a bug report, but no response other than "We'll try to reproduce".
If you're wondering why I care, I posted some 'Phoenix Group'-related thoughts a couple of days ago.
I think I am not too far from there. May do the detour thing...
On a side note - has anyone previously considered 7 veils = 7 Nebula? Eafots is 2 (H&S) bubble Nebula, a couple of NGC's, Cave Nebula... Perhaps they all hold part of the secret?
Just thinking out loud...
Z...
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Ah someone is still doing science, repped!
i had forgotten this installation, but it does look rather like the Neumann Camp array may be monitoring the area of Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3. There is a fed array farm I found on a planet in a Luytens xx-xx (not enough coffee yet , bad night, can't remember the exact name at the moment ) system near Avik & it would be interesting to check if that was also monitoring the same area.
not sure what your line of thinking (pun intended ) is re the parametric equations & RR line? Re you just musing, or is there a reason to suppose a linkage?
I really wish there wasn't.
I *like* having separate mysteries and *things that aren't inexorably inked*. I find it a failing of many modern narratives that everything has to be strung together into one conspiracy, rather than allowed to remain as unique sub-plots.
Small stories are important, too. Not everything needs to be beaten into a metaplot.
After all: Wasn't X-files so much better when the majority of episodes were stand-alone stories?
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dynamicbob
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ok the hawking gap and the conflux are things i havent been in the loop on anyone got any backstory to them
I know where you are coming from, but to be fair - more or less from the start - this has included several participants. Remember the Old Lady and 'If you're listening to this it means you’re smart enough to have bypassed Galcop, Federation, and Imperial security'. That means, at least to me, they are all in it. So that necessitates some degree of participation between characters from those powers/factions, and by extension, that means some stories will at least overlap.
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aside from the quote, we have nothing. However, they are area's in the galactic map that were named as part of Erimus's mapping project, which appear to have been adopted by FDev/Drew, and popped into the story.
dynamicbob
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ok so perhaps focus on hawkings gap and conflux are something we can investigate as a wider community to take a looksie
There is none. These are regions of space named by the player base and never breathed by FD until the quote was given to us.
Should we ask people to go and get a long weight and a skirting board ladder, too?!
These are large regions of space and we have absolutely nothing to go on regarding them. My personal feeling is to utterly ignore them until we have some more evidence that they really are relevant.
Nice punning! Repped!
The RR line was based on Genar-Hofoen's observation that there were two arrays, one pointed at the Col 70 sector and the other pointed in the opposite direction, which suggests Neumann base is either also looking at something in the opposite direction or acting is a relay/signal booster. So it was a case of "presuming that the first is pointing at Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3, can we now work out what the other is pointing at, and is it anything interesting/significant?", then seeing what I could do along that avenue.
I don't have the facilities to do a visual line on the Gal map and see if it goes through any nebula or interesting regions, but the bits I could do was work out which systems were approximately on the line, and also check intersections with any other lines to see if it threw up anything interesting. And the only other line I know of is the RR line, and there do seem to be some things going round suggest its all connected (from something said by Salome if I remember correctly)! (Plus I was replying to a post on the FR thread - obviously this might actually be better shifted over to one of the threads on the UPs etc. but I thought I'd put it here to start with)
I must admit, I was wondering if the intersection point would be in a Nebula or something like that. At least LP744-46 would be easy to reach and either eliminate or confirm as being of interest.
Other potential avenues of exploration:
- Does the second array actually point in the opposite direction of Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 or is it pointing at a different angle? (The system Neumann Camp is in (Shinrarta Dezhra, to save anyone having to look it up!) is permit locked so I can't check myself.)
- Are other arrays like the one you've mentioned also pointing in the direction of Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3, and do they also have second arrays pointing somewhere else, and if so, where.
I don't know how you are measuring angles and so on, so I won't bother going myself, but I do know where there is an observatory if you (or someone else) wanted to check it out: Yimakuapa C 1A, Zahn Observatory.
Cheers!
I'm only going off what was in Genar-Hofoen's post at the moment and I don't know how the measurement of angles would be done myself (or even how it was worked out that the array was pointing at the Col 70 Sector for that matter!), so if anyone can fill in the gaps on that front, that'd be great.
The only angle measurements I've done was checking the angles of the flat pieces on the alien wreck to see if they could potentially be parts of the flat base of a regular geometric shaped ship... and that was done by holding a protactor to the screen!
The answers in case it's of interest to anyone...
- yes they could be part of the regular geometric shaped base of a ship... ; and,
- no, it wouldn't be octohedral
(Angles were either approx 120 degrees (Hexagonal) or 146 degrees (roughly 11-agonal), depending on whether measuring the general shape, or measuring at a sharply defined vertex and treating it as though other pieces had broken off resulting in the 120 degrees general shape)
Ah, definitely a scientist who likes measurements! Welcome to the thread, can't rep you again but good approach to measure the angles on the alien wreck!
I don't have a permit for Shinrahta Dezra either, & I'm busy getting engineer upgrades before the aliens start to interdict me (the npc pirates are annoying enough without any additional exasperation!), but if nobody else has done so when I get back from Maia I'll recheck the array in Lutyens xx-xxx.
The only way I know to check pointing direction is to select a system in the Galmap then go back to game & see if that fits with the antenna direction, then iterate as required with a few different systems; not very accurate cos of the antenna size (easier with a UA!), but may be possible to check the visual alignment using the edge of the antenna.
I suspect the antenna is monitoring (or even transmitting to if you want to really get into conspiracy theories!) the alien sector & if there is a second antenna then it would be relaying the information on to a monitoring/decoding HQ, so it might help to understand the storyline better if we could determine where that HQ is located. I doubt if the two antennae together would have a common alignment ( but worth checking).