Newcomer / Intro Hyperspace takes too long

mr.lavalava

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Hi,

So I'm new to this game and I'm just wondering if it really takes this long, like, an hour, to travel 7 lightyears to other galaxy?

I'm playing in an OPEN PLAY.

Marco
 

aRJay

aRJay
mr.lavalava said:
Hi,

So I'm new to this game and I'm just wondering if it really takes this long, like, an hour, to travel 7 lightyears to other galaxy?

I'm playing in an OPEN PLAY.

Marco
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An hour for 7 light years would be super cruise not hyper(Wytch)space, if you did fly between stars this way you would find things didn't work properly when you arrived.
You need to press the hyper space button again to actually jump between stars, the jump will take less than a minute.

There is a training mission about travel available from the main menu.
 
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MickyG1982

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mr.lavalava said:
Hi,

So I'm new to this game and I'm just wondering if it really takes this long, like, an hour, to travel 7 lightyears to other galaxy?

I'm playing in an OPEN PLAY.

Marco
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If it is taking an hour to fly to another system then you are either not jumping and trying to get to the next system using supercruise or you have major problems with your connection.

I'm betting on the former (only because you are new & probably haven't gone through the tutorials that tell you how to fly, or read the manual, yet)
 

mr.lavalava

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MickyG1982 said:
If it is taking an hour to fly to another system then you are either not jumping and trying to get to the next system using supercruise or you have major problems with your connection.

I'm betting on the former (only because you are new & probably haven't gone through the tutorials that tell you how to fly, or read the manual, yet)
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Well, I did play the tutorials and watched the tutorial vids, but it's not very helpful at all.

For your information, I'm using the 'Hyperspace'... The thing that goes tunnel vision sort of thing when you press 'J' on the keyboard after charging for 4 seconds?

The thing is, eventhough I'm at 'Hyperspace', it took me 1 hour to to only even go HALFWAY into that 7 lightyear distance. I even ran out of fuel and forced to destroy my ship in the process...

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Excuse my term but it's rather 'FRAME SHIFT DRIVE' not 'HYPERSPACE'... sorry... But anyhow, does it really take that long? An hour?
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
No, you're missing something. There are places that can take 1.5 hours to fly to but those are in-system and sort of legendary. Jumps between systems are instantaneous.
 

aRJay

aRJay
mr.lavalava said:
Well, I did play the tutorials and watched the tutorial vids, but it's not very helpful at all.

For your information, I'm using the 'Hyperspace'... The thing that goes tunnel vision sort of thing when you press 'J' on the keyboard after charging for 4 seconds?

The thing is, eventhough I'm at 'Hyperspace', it took me 1 hour to to only even go HALFWAY into that 7 lightyear distance. I even ran out of fuel and forced to destroy my ship in the process...

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Excuse my term but it's rather 'FRAME SHIFT DRIVE' not 'HYPERSPACE'... sorry... But anyhow, does it really take that long? An hour?
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I think what you have missed is there are two keys by default to operate the Frameshift Drive, J will initiate Supercruise to fly round the system it starts by charging then there is a countdown followed by a short tunnel effect. With a star locked as destination you can press H which will start the jump with almost exactly the same sequence except the tunnel turns into clouds and stars swirling past at speed which stops abruptly at the star after a minute at most.

Apologies if I am wrong about the keys, I swapped my bindings around a long time ago.
 

Codger

Codger
I'm not sure what you're confusing here, OP, but you're definitely confused. 7LY is a very short jump. It would take you a minute, maybe. And there's no way you'd run out of fuel.

Maybe you should tell us where you're travelling from, and where you're trying to go. Then at least we'll know what you're attempting to do.
 

MickyG1982

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[video=youtube;NEZ4GgOMSRg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZ4GgOMSRg[/video]

This is a Hyperspace Jump, is this what you are using to travel to the next system?

I'll just leave this here...

[video=youtube;jCIloJa2vS4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIloJa2vS4[/video]
 
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MickyG1982

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Note, there are quite a few tutorial videos, all available from the training menu, & yes they all link to YouTube but they are accessible from in game too.
 

BigBANGtheory [VR]

BigBANGtheory [VR]
There is only one galaxy atm, you jump between stars (one or more per system) and supercruise inside systems e.g. between star and planet. TBH it took me a while to grasp the travel system but once you do it makes sense. You can only jump up to a certain range at a time based on your ship characteristics (50 LY is about the max) so effectively you hop from one star to the next on long journeys. Eventually you run out of fuel and will need to refuel or else risk being stranded.

There are some stations and planets a long way from the star so it can take a long time to supercruise to these places, they are pretty rare though. It would take a long long time to jump your way across the galaxy to far away stars on the other side. There is a collection of stars representing most of the known inhabited human space called 'the bubble' which is where you start and most of your activities take place until you feel ready to explore further into the unknown. To travel from one side of 'the bubble' to the other is about 700 LY and would take 1-2hrs depending on your ship. To travel to Jaques Station (outside the bubble) will take much longer my understanding is about 8hrs I haven't done the journey though and its not something a new player would really consider.
 

Glastinghouse

Glastinghouse
A - for me - logic reason is this: You are locked on a star, not on a different star system. You press J for "Frame Shift Drive" which brings you into Supercruise - with the same tunnel effect like a System Jump. Then you are not fully accelerated which means it takes significantly longer to reach that star...like 7 hours.
There's not much more I could think about that fits. It takes 7 hours, you see the tunnel vision, your fuel runs out halfways.

Glastinghouse
 

SeaFireliv

SeaFireliv
Glastinghouse said:
A - for me - logic reason is this: You are locked on a star, not on a different star system. You press J for "Frame Shift Drive" which brings you into Supercruise - with the same tunnel effect like a System Jump. Then you are not fully accelerated which means it takes significantly longer to reach that star...like 7 hours.
There's not much more I could think about that fits. It takes 7 hours, you see the tunnel vision, your fuel runs out halfways.

Glastinghouse
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THIS. He`s not actually locked on to a system. Even if you hit the Frameshift Jump button you`ll just supercruise instead. I`ve made this mistake and wondered why it was taking so long. Make sure you have actually locked onto something (in maps) like an actual system or station itself.
 
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Para Handy

Para Handy
mr.lavalava said:
Hi,

So I'm new to this game and I'm just wondering if it really takes this long, like, an hour, to travel 7 lightyears to other galaxy?

I'm playing in an OPEN PLAY.

Marco
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1. There is only one galaxy modelled in E D - you can't jump to another galaxy.

2. Don't confuse "supercruise" and "hyperjump"

3. Supercruise will let you travel within a star system at speeds from 30km/s to thousands of times the speed of light. A hyperjump is a mechanism to move you from the current system's instance to a new system's instance (you emerge at the dominant mass of the new system).

4. You cannot travel to another star system using supercruise, not even the closest DIFFERENT SYSTEM can be reached by supercruise, you need to make a hyperjump to move from one system's "instance" to another system's "instance".

5. E D has a default button that will engage either supercruise or hyperjump depending upon the context of the action - if you have a different system targeted / selected then it will go into a hyperjump, if you have something in your current system targeted / selected (or if you have nothing targeted) it will go into a supercruise (the charging time for which is much shorter). (I set up different keybinds for supercruise.)

6. It is entirely possible to have a distant star actually within the same system you are in (i.e. it is part of the gravitational system) and you can travel to that in supercruise, with the possibility of running out of fuel of course. (I don't know of a system with 7ly distance from main star to another though.)


Finally, don't worry about errors whilst learning this game, it can be complicated. Don't forget there is a manual, videos and training all available from your launcher and ask away in this forum, you will only ever find help and assistance in here.


EDIT - P.S. I see from the OP's other thread that the situation has been clarified already. (Wish I had noticed that before typing out all that guff above. sheesh )


[alien]
 
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Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
Yaffle
Another way to do it would be to select the destination from the left menu, and then select the 'select and engage hyperdrive' option. This should throw you direct into the tunnel of (soon to become more) awesome and out at the new star 7LY away. As others have said it does sound as if you've engaged supercruise, which is a slower method of getting around inside a system. You can fly the distance to another system, but the assets of that system won't load until you engage a hyperjump.

Let us know how you get on.
 

mr.lavalava

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I finally solved this problem guys.

After reading all through your comments i found out that before accepting and launching to missions, I found out that it would be wise to PLOT your ROUTE using the GALAXY MAP. What I did right here before was that I didn't plot a route using the GALAXY MAP, that's why I went right straight towards my destination without taking a connecting system/s. I should take connecting routes if it needs to be, otherwise, I'll be travelling at a speed of an aeroplane...

And also, i wasn't using the tunnel thing by pressing 'J' again during a FRAME SHIFT DRIVE to enter the 'HYPERJUMP' ;) towards my target destination. Good thing I found that one out. :D

Thanks for all your suggestions Commanders! You're the best!
 
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Chris Simon

Chris Simon
mr.lavalava said:
I finally solved this problem guys.

Before accepting and launching to missions, I found out that it would be wise to PLOT your ROUTE using the GALAXY MAP. What I did right here before was that I didn't plot a route using the GALAXY MAP, that's why I went right straight towards my destination without taking a connecting system/s. I should take connecting routes if it needs to be, otherwise, I'll be travelling at a speed of an aeroplane...

And also, i wasn't using the tunnel thing by pressing 'J' again during a FRAME SHIFT DRIVE to enter the 'tunnel' effect towards my target destination. Good thing I found that one out. :D
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Yes, it's kind of unfortunate and confusing for newcomers that both supercruise and hyperjumps are by default bound to the same key and only triggered contextually, depending of what have you targeted.
You can go to the options and choose two different keys for it, if you want.
 
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Rhaedas

Rhaedas
It's useful to have them as two different keys for one specific reason. Sometimes you'll have a system targeted to jump to already, like before you leave the station. You come out, get ready to jump, and the stupid planet's in the way. With them both using the same key, you'd have to untarget, jump into supercruise, fly around the planet enough, then retarget and jump. But with two different keys, you keep the target and use the supercruise key to get around the obstacle.
 
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