According to old(possibly invalid) lore Thargoids showed up just after the first Ammonia world was Terraformed. It's sort of implied that this was the reason for the Thargoids to show up.
So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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According to old(possibly invalid) lore Thargoids showed up just after the first Ammonia world was Terraformed. It's sort of implied that this was the reason for the Thargoids to show up.
I know and that's what worries me. I've seen maps that put the rift as a small square, just off the outer most arm, and i've seen them that draw it a ways back up between the arms. Though with the inclusion of the patrols that were added just outside of the rift, I would think that would narrow it down. you would use some degree of variance and make your net wider than the actual area. So the patrol should honestly be bigger than the area we are looking for. Also you would place that area at the center of your net. That's just basic tactics.
This is just me and kinda what i plan to do (if someone else has done it then let me know), but i'm going to base my search of the center point of the patrol that's out there, and see what i can find trying to cross in that area. Seems like the most logical thing.
I come from RTS games, so when i put my units on patrol the area they cover is slightly bigger than the most common routes just in case, but the center is the fastest from point a to point b.
This is all assuming what ever is out there is coming to kill us, and we must stop it. Why else would you send patrols.
again take what i say with a grain of salt, i've only kinda followed this over the past year. So i was behind from my start, I'm just now heavily getting into it, so I'm really behind. But i wont lie I'm not going to read, 1000's of pages worth of forum posts. But from what i read at the start of this (which is supposed to be the important stuff) and the things over the past few days. My best guess is we over thought this, now we need to make the noob loop of shame.
There is the issue - that;s all been thrown out by FD, and I've not (nor nay explorer I know, for that matter) seen an actual AW that pops up with "TFC".
They tend to be too far out of the goldilocks zone, and too cold. I have seen various planets with ammonia as part of the atmosphere (pretty sure water worlds amongst them), but that's it. Hence, seeing an actual AW TFC... That I want to see myself.
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Well, I seem to recall that they expected us to figure it out from just the book clues alone...
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Kinda hard not to overthink "somewhere in space" as the clue.
We know it's not exactly on the RR line, which gives no information about general location because close could be literally anything in three dimensions.
We were also given clues related to heart, soul, and EAFOTS, and then immediately told it might be a prank or a fake clue in the same message.
Even assuming that it is in one of those three (of which the soul nebula is either the answer or the least likely simultaneously depending how you view the clue in its entirety).
Except you can't even make that assumption, because we don't know if that's the start of the rift, or it's actual location, which would put the actual rift somewhere past hypoe or whatever.
We've been told it's not a point of interest, which literally means in conclusion we are looking for something that's not singularly identifiable somewhere in the bottom left hand corner of the Galaxy.
We are looking through a haystack of about a half million systems and we aren't even sure if there's a needle in there, or what the needle even looks like.
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Kickstarter backers of certain levels got the rights to name planets and/or stations.
The '4A504D' station will be meaningless to anyone except 'Jonathan'.
You come across these kinds of systems all over the Bubble - my personal favorite is the station called "Glen's House of Lambada" in the Flesk system.
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IMHO, some clues tell us it's not the needle we should look for, but the proper haysack.
Just a quick question as I think my astro physics is a little bit rusty but what the hell is this orbiting ? There is nothing close by either outside the orbit line. I did fly slowly through the centre hoping to crash into a black body but nothing.
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Probably orbiting the common barycenter shared with the other two stars.
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From the rift, if we look back towards the galactic core, is there anything to be seen outside of the ordinary (or is there anything missing that you should be able to see from there)?
I'm sure there are explorers here more accomplished than me that can, for example, recite all the nebula by heart and that would notice an unusual blob in the skybox when looking back, or that would notice any of the large nebula or gas clouds missing that you would normallly be able to see from the rift?
Can't remember all the discussions from the first thread, but the above question seems fairly obvious, so please forgive me if this has already been discounted.
It just could fit so many of the clues (watch your six, not a POI, tapestry, broadly correct, in since gamma, core of the ... ahem ... problem, maybe others as well).
Ok maybe not the tapestry one.
From the rift, if we look back towards the galactic core, is there anything to be seen outside of the ordinary (or is there anything missing that you should be able to see from there)?
I'm sure there are explorers here more accomplished than me that can, for example, recite all the nebula by heart and that would notice an unusual blob in the skybox when looking back, or that would notice any of the large nebula or gas clouds missing that you would normallly be able to see from the rift?
Can't remember all the discussions from the first thread, but the above question seems fairly obvious, so please forgive me if this has already been discounted.
It just could fit so many of the clues (watch your six, not a POI, tapestry, broadly correct, in since gamma, core of the ... ahem ... problem, maybe others as well).
Ok maybe not the tapestry one.
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But surely there would have to be a second mass within shooting distance ? Overlapping orbit lines ?
The first crossing was in a Cobra. Did Salome get her Clipper to the Rift? I thought it was setup with "advanced systems" (which turned out to be bogus) to go to the Rift but never went there as it was abandoned.
Ahh scratch that ! At ease. the orbit lines only appear once I target the body. Hence one at a time.
Usually but sometimes they don't all show up. The trick would be to select the other objects in the nav panel and see if that brings up their orbit lines. Perhps they will then overlap?
The vanishing nebula thing has been confirmed as a bug - so we can scratch that.
I'm currently flying as far out as I can with my 55LY Anaconda, and doing a check of the skybox every 300-500LY. I'm not sure what I expect to find, but I'm hoping it'll strike me as "odd" if I see it. I've done enough exploration on the rim areas of the galaxy, that I hope I can pick up on something out of place.
My initial path is Reorte to the rim, using H&S nebulae as my "gateway". Once I get as far as I can, I'll fly back via the RR line (which is a little "West" of my current path). I am also considering a "yo-yo" flight plan for the return, perhaps 500LY above and below the galactic plane, but we'll see. I haven't seen another CMDR tag in many thousands of LY, now, so at least I'll get some first discoveries to add to the list, if nothing else.
I think what we're looking for is a "darker" region of space, perhaps even "blurred" (like a black hole effect) where we'll find a whole region of space with either dead formerly terraformed planets, or... Perhaps that is where the AI went - kinda makes sense in a lot of ways. ALiens are not quit ehere yet, but FD never said the AI weren't.
Also works with the "They thought the Thargoids were trouble" thing.
Anyway, once again, I have that foreign interview with the guy with no teeth laughing like a maniac...
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Yeah was thinking of doing the same. Since getting the Exploraconda set up with FSD5, I've been rearing to go on another long(ish) distance trip.
Let's see what everyone else says (not doubting you, just wondering if there isn't anything to find the way I suggested, and which cannot be explained by bugs).
Thankyou everyone for clearing that up about the planetary features.
I thought I'd share what I've been working on. I've been visting systems in EAFOTS with EB-P in the name. Even made it all the way out to EAFOTS EB-P C21-0, which is extremely remote and difficult to plot a route to. Of course, they've all been thoroughly explored before, so I didn't find anything there.
However, I was bookmarking each system as I reached it to keep track of the ones I'd been too. After that last system, I started looking at them on the galactic map and if you look at them from above, they form a triangle.
Ignore the blue circle, that's just the map interface and I didn't position it specially.
One of the points is aimed at the Bubble, another toward the edge of the galaxy and the last along the Perseus arm. From what I can tell, the RR line doesn't intersect the triangle, although it does cross infront of the P point but outside of EAFOTS. Right now I'm scouting systems in the middle, not having much luck.
Also, it may just be a coincidence, look at where the points of the triangle are aimed. Edge of the Galaxy, the Bubble and Perseus Arm. E B P.
I thought I'd share what I've been working on. I've been visting systems in EAFOTS with EB-P in the name. Even made it all the way out to EAFOTS EB-P C21-0, which is extremely remote and difficult to plot a route to. Of course, they've all been thoroughly explored before, so I didn't find anything there.
However, I was bookmarking each system as I reached it to keep track of the ones I'd been too. After that last system, I started looking at them on the galactic map and if you look at them from above, they form a triangle.
Ignore the blue circle, that's just the map interface and I didn't position it specially.
One of the points is aimed at the Bubble, another toward the edge of the galaxy and the last along the Perseus arm. From what I can tell, the RR line doesn't intersect the triangle, although it does cross infront of the P point but outside of EAFOTS. Right now I'm scouting systems in the middle, not having much luck.
Also, it may just be a coincidence, look at where the points of the triangle are aimed. Edge of the Galaxy, the Bubble and Perseus Arm. E B P.
Currently in Chi Persei Sector about 600ly below the nebulae. Can confirm that only the Soul is visible. Suspect giant alien Bussard ramjet in the disappearance of the Heart.
BTW, 4 red supergiants in close proximity in NGC 884. They look beautiful sprinkled among the blues.
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My apologies, I didn't look at it closely enough, it's a terrestrial water world with an ammonia atmosphere.
In terms of finding something tangible within the game engine... Just thinking about the limitations of the game at release, and the "look at the skies" type clue and the fact it's not a USS etc... Barring inhabited (AI? The Missing?) systems and such, custom planet maps/descriptions or irregular system formations that have wider connotations. Maybe it's something in the night sky (or maybe all of the above!). Some sort of very obvious arrangement with background stars, the core and nebulae...
Bad photoshop job of the sort of thing I'm thinking about:
You can see some of it from the system map but the whole is only viewable from a particular system, you have to fly out from the sun a bit.
I would still like to think something's coming out of the "Underworld" to turn off our suns though. That's way more dramatic.
Bad photoshop job of the sort of thing I'm thinking about:
You can see some of it from the system map but the whole is only viewable from a particular system, you have to fly out from the sun a bit.
I would still like to think something's coming out of the "Underworld" to turn off our suns though. That's way more dramatic.
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