So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Zeeman

Zeeman
It's as good a haystack as any other right now...


So, reading through the clues, a thew things that popped into mind, trying to think of things I have not yet read associated with the clues. Of course, with near 5000 posts in this thread alone, it's probably been covered, but anyway, just in case. Who knows, maybe it'll prod the much smarter than me guys to think of something else...

Salome, named after sister's cat - anyone think of any cat related stuff in game? Cat's Eye nebula, Cat's Paw Nebula... Any others?

The late thing, I am getting a very "Alice in Wonderland" vibe, which means rabbit, rabbit holes, and, well, the mess that is Alice in Wonderland...

Core of the problem - anyone thought of Core Dynamics? What's the home system? May be worth checking Galnet posts there, if not already...

Of course, Core Dynamics is not Imperial, so perhaps that's a hint that the ship builders may all have something to do with the cover up.

OK, I'll continue to feed coffee to my brain and sprout rubbish...

Z...
 
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Siranui

S
DrewCarnegie said:
Kickstarter backers of certain levels got the rights to name planets and/or stations.
The '4A504D' station will be meaningless to anyone except 'Jonathan'.

You come across these kinds of systems all over the Bubble - my personal favorite is the station called "Glen's House of Lambada" in the Flesk system.
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Well that was an easy solve! Cheers.

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terranblade said:
I know and that's what worries me. I've seen maps that put the rift as a small square, just off the outer most arm, and i've seen them that draw it a ways back up between the arms. Though with the inclusion of the patrols that were added just outside of the rift, I would think that would narrow it down. you would use some degree of variance and make your net wider than the actual area. So the patrol should honestly be bigger than the area we are looking for. Also you would place that area at the center of your net. That's just basic tactics.
My best guess is we over thought this, now we need to make the noob loop of shame.
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Yes it is puzzling. And with high jump value drives the 'Rift' can be easily passed through without even really noticing. Which personally made me think that we need t be heading up or down to the edges of the galaxy, where stars genuinely thin properly, although this seems contrary to other clues.

We do have some over-lapping areas though, as people have said: H&S, EAFOTS, R-R Line and the CoR patrol patterns.
They don't match up particularly well, though. It is still a big haystack.

I personally reckon the RR-line to be an approximation, and the patrol route to have also been placed a little deceptively: with only one edge/end of it overlapping the relevant area.
 

Cubed

Cubed
terranblade said:
So found this

http://imgur.com/gfucGjf

http://imgur.com/ksO4l58

Not sure how likely this stuff is, but I've explored A LOT and haven't ever seen a USS (way outside the bubble). Figured I would throw this up there just in case it was important.
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I've come across a couple of those recently near the H&S nebulas. I personally don't think they are important and I like to think of them as fellow explorers who have either had a mishap or run out of coffee and pressed the destruct button.

Then again...
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Cubed said:
I've come across a couple of those recently near the H&S nebulas. I personally don't think they are important and I like to think of them as fellow explorers who have either had a mishap or run out of coffee and pressed the destruct button.

Then again...
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The only USS's that show up (or at least have shown up so far) outside of around 1kLY from Sol are data survey caches. They're pretty uncommon, but do seem more prevalent around nebulae - that might just because nebulae tend to be destinations, so explorers spend more time in those systems than ones they're just transiting through.

I believe they've been shipped back to the Bubble and sold without anything exciting resulting.
 

MarktJones

MarktJones
DrewCarnegie said:
The only USS's that show up (or at least have shown up so far) outside of around 1kLY from Sol are data survey caches. They're pretty uncommon, but do seem more prevalent around nebulae - that might just because nebulae tend to be destinations, so explorers spend more time in those systems than ones they're just transiting through.

I believe they've been shipped back to the Bubble and sold without anything exciting resulting.
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I'm finding quite a few between the heart and soul nebulas. Hoping there's a small chance that something odd appears eventually...
 

Atebits

A
I thought I would throw this up here for those explorers who want some confirmed ways of crossing the Rift:

CAUTION: This was flown with 51 ly jump range.
This flight plan only works for ships of that capacity.
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WREDGUIA RX-L D7-64
OUTOPPS CD-T B58-1
OUTORST PX-L D7-5
HEGEIA IO-Z D13-4
HEGUA GL-P D5-35
GLUDGOEA AC-D D12-180
IC 1848 SECTOR WZ-P D5-99
EAFOTS JB-F D11-73
HEART SECTOR GW-W C1-11




Part II
EAFOTS MD-K D8-5
HYPOAE AIM OG-Y D5
MYOIDEAU KD-K D8-2
PHOI AESCS HL-P D5-1
HYPIAE AESCS BC-D D12-4
HYPO AEB SB-W C15-0
HYPO AEB AR-V B29-0
HYPO AEB SE-Z B27-0
HYPO AEB PR-N D6-0
HYPO AEB EE-K C8-3
DRYAEA AIRG NY-S B58-0
DRYAEA AIRG CX-U B57-0
DRYAEA AIRG NO-K B49-0
DRYAEA AIRG YD-T D3-7

________________________

1. Clear - RD Breach
2. Clear - No Problems
3. Clear - No Problems
4. Clear - No Problems
5. Clear - Slightly Sketchy
6. Clear - No Problems
7. Clear - No Problems
8. Clear - No Problems
9. Clear - No Problems


10. Clear - No Problems
11. Clear - No Problems
12. Clear - No Problems
13. Clear - No Problems
14. Clear - One Disconnect

Sketchy Sketchy Sketchy… HYPO Region

15. Clear - No Problems
16. Clear - Single Plot Route
17. Clear - Single Plot Route
18. Clear - Double Plot Route
19. Clear - 7 Plot Route
20. Clear - 12 Plot Route
21. Clear - 3 Plot Route
22. Clear - 5 Plot Route
23. Clear - 21 Plot Route


________________________

DRYAEA AIRG YD-T D3-7
acts a lighthouse and eventual destination. This seems to be an area near-directly across from the Bubble if you're passing straight through H & S
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
DrewCarnegie said:
The only USS's that show up (or at least have shown up so far) outside of around 1kLY from Sol are data survey caches. They're pretty uncommon, but do seem more prevalent around nebulae - that might just because nebulae tend to be destinations, so explorers spend more time in those systems than ones they're just transiting through.

I believe they've been shipped back to the Bubble and sold without anything exciting resulting.
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I think they tend to attract pirates on your way into the bubble, so no a good idea if you've got a lot of exploration data.
 

Atebits

A
OOSCS AIRG FC-W B43-0
OOB AIRG WR-N C6-5
VIRPH PJ-I D9-15
DRYAEA PHLAI FT-U C2-1
OOSCS PHLAI RF-W C15-0
OOB PHLAI RK-R C4-0
AICONG CD-Z C27-0


[ Clear - no problems ]

... and at the end of the trip
http://imgur.com/a/MvjHH

Already discovered by DEHZZ.
- so if you were wondering just how far she meant by "...the stars thin out," like me there's a way to know and it does have an Earth-like at the end of it. But, no one home and system has already been charted. The other nearby systems were charted by someone named APEACEFULFLOWER.
 

Azernak

Azernak
Cubed said:
I've come across a couple of those recently near the H&S nebulas. I personally don't think they are important and I like to think of them as fellow explorers who have either had a mishap or run out of coffee and pressed the destruct button.

Then again...
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Honestly i was thinking the same thing. But what if, just what if they are kinda like bread crumbs. They may not actually give us any more info than, you're getting closer.

Plus how long would a USS stick around after someone self destructs a ship? If they last days, then maybe its possible, but if its just a few hrs or minutes, then the likely hood of me coming across something like that goes way way down. I'm not sure how they work so I don't know.

The more I'm getting into this, the more I feel drew has gone all "Inferno" levels of mystery writing, and some how we missed the image of Dante's "Layers of Hell" painting in the very beginning of the story.
 

MarktJones

MarktJones
terranblade said:
Honestly i was thinking the same thing. But what if, just what if they are kinda like bread crumbs. They may not actually give us any more info than, you're getting closer.

Plus how long would a USS stick around after someone self destructs a ship? If they last days, then maybe its possible, but if its just a few hrs or minutes, then the likely hood of me coming across something like that goes way way down. I'm not sure how they work so I don't know.

The more I'm getting into this, the more I feel drew has gone all "Inferno" levels of mystery writing, and some how we missed the image of Dante's "Layers of Hell" painting in the very beginning of the story.
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I just think there's a small chance of finding something interesting at the USSs. That's why he said a single person might find it but it's more likely to be a group (or something like that). More people visiting USSs in the right place, more chance of finding out.
 

Cpt.Bilsn

Cpt.Bilsn
Zeeman said:
It's as good a haystack as any other right now...


So, reading through the clues, a thew things that popped into mind, trying to think of things I have not yet read associated with the clues. Of course, with near 5000 posts in this thread alone, it's probably been covered, but anyway, just in case. Who knows, maybe it'll prod the much smarter than me guys to think of something else...

Salome, named after sister's cat - anyone think of any cat related stuff in game? Cat's Eye nebula, Cat's Paw Nebula... Any others?

The late thing, I am getting a very "Alice in Wonderland" vibe, which means rabbit, rabbit holes, and, well, the mess that is Alice in Wonderland...

Core of the problem - anyone thought of Core Dynamics? What's the home system? May be worth checking Galnet posts there, if not already...

Of course, Core Dynamics is not Imperial, so perhaps that's a hint that the ship builders may all have something to do with the cover up.

OK, I'll continue to feed coffee to my brain and sprout rubbish...

Z...
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Regarding Salomé's name: Imho it should not be a clue for the Rift's mystery as the Dude that gave her the name had no connection to The old Lady nor the Rift. Also when did Kahina met the Old Lady? Wasn't it after she got her new name? (I honestly can't seem to remember).

I think Drew's said the Rift is Salomé (or Kahina's) story, but if it is, it's her story now. In the book it was the Old Lady's story, Salomé had her own there.

The problem, of course is, I could apply similar approach to other clues as well. Ie. 'Seven veils' - did she named the ship as a reference to the Rift's mystery or 'cause she has found it humorous regarding her new name? Same with the Old Lady's Cobra ......

So in retrospect, my logic is a path to ruin and nobody in his right mind should follow it :D .
 

Helfar

Helfar
MarktJones said:
I just think there's a small chance of finding something interesting at the USSs. That's why he said a single person might find it but it's more likely to be a group (or something like that). More people visiting USSs in the right place, more chance of finding out.
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Think, I could be wrong, that Drew stated it was not a POI or USS.
 

MarktJones

MarktJones
Helfar said:
Think, I could be wrong, that Drew stated it was not a POI or USS.
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Oh, I've not seen that; maybe there is a clue there in one of them if not the complete answer. I'll keep looking just in case... Looking back at his hints the need for patience makes me think there is probably a bit of random chance involved too.
 

Azernak

Azernak
MarktJones said:
Oh, I've not seen that; maybe there is a clue there in one of them if not the complete answer. I'll keep looking just in case... Looking back at his hints the need for patience makes me think there is probably a bit of random chance involved too.
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It's been stated that POI or USS isn't what we are looking for. Something that has been in the game since gamma. Though to me POI and USS may be a hint as to we are getting closer, so they may not be "it" but more an arrow pointing were we need to go.

Like i said I maybe new here but i've tried to read up on everything there is (short of reading all 3 threads in their entirety). To me we missed something in the beginning that would make this easy. It may be a small piece to the puzzle but with out it we cant connect the dots.

hell the best we've been given on rift location is, we are close. so that alone should say something. On top of the countless times i've seen, "even if someone found it they may not know it".

With that i'm lead to believe we missed something and, we need to wait for a "new" old clue. Either way i'll be out at the rift waiting for the new clue from those in the bubble.
 
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Sgt.Barnes

Sgt.Barnes
Ok due to a chronic case of flying whilst drinking a case of "intergalactic Old Mout Kiwi cider" I have unfortunately headbutted a small high G planetoid with my ship. There is literally so much smoke & sparks pouring from the side of my ship and my front deck that the view from the cockpit is largely obscured. I have to fly like Ace Ventura drives to see where I 'am going. I 'am currently limping back the 16k ly back to the nearest station for repair. Please keep my coffee warm and if the Rift does not claim me on the way back I shall return ASAP.

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P.S if you find Raxxla wait for me !
 

evaldo10

evaldo10
I think we have the clues we need for the right direction.

Head along the R-R line. Thats straightforward it also gives as good height in 3d space terms along the galactic plane as both systems are level.

Heart and Soul is the next clue and serves as a gateway into the next clue which is Eafots.

So the direction and height on the plane are there.

Now how far do you go ??

If you follow that route it takes you through Eafots and into Myoidee. Along this border ( or the conflux of spherical systems ) are many Ammonia planets some dead and some with life.

There ae also many terraformable worlds.

If you keep going through Myoidee you hit a lot of empty space which for me is where the rift as. If you look on the map there is much more stars on the other side at the edge of Perseus arm.

An important factor will be jump range, I think who goes looking means if your jump range is too high you will pass it and if its too low you wont get there.

The old lady did it in a Cobra and Salome found it in a clipper.

It was findable before Engineers. Id say your jump range should be around 25-30ly although anyone with a better idea on the Old Lady and Salomes jump range feel free to add.

I believe somewhere within that part of empty space there is something to see or find.

It cant be planetary based as it was there before horizons although it could be a marking on a planet that you can see from space.

I had a theory about the Imps hijacking a Gen ship and redirecting it through Eafots out to the rift to conduct experiments of some sort.

This could mean a drifting gen ship on the outskirts of a system like a ghost ship.

Other ideas are a pattern within stars at a certain point in the rift.

I have a feeling that we may need to look beyond the suns in the system although that creates a major headache with no reference point for us.

The core of the problem could be related to a suns heat emissions or it could be a direction to look once you enter a system.

A lot of the rift mystery seems to be very story based rather than purely scientific.

The Imperials have clearly attempted to cover something up. The old lady had her memory wiped, Salome has been arrested as a result of her findings by the Imps.

The discovery in Plaedies is probably connected also, Patreus was preparing for it by building a cap ship ( offering ridiculous amounts in seemingly panic ) before it was found. He knew it was out there, he also knew Salone would prob say sonething upon its discovery.

Salome was probably going to expose the Imps. Now its up to one of us to discover what they are hiding. Maybe Salome will escape and reveal more.

Maybe she has hidden a clue somewhere.

I'm heading back out soon and ill prob take the Cobra again. Although I'm thinking of taking my modded Asp or Conda and then restricting my jump range but this makes mapping or finding a specific route harder within the parameters of jump range being important.

I have people within the bubble looking out for further clues and following both Salome and Patreus stories. Plus plenty of people with an eye on the UAs.

I may also take a probe with me although i doubt it will help as this has been mentioned.
 
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