Jameson memorial outfitting has gone !

i thought, what the heck, but then seen the "seeking goods" at jameson memorial.

thought, oh well give it a try. found one of my ships with a cargo scanner! (because outfitting is gone)

scanned the trader: narcotics. well, maybe.... maybe not. commodities are gone too
 
I'd pay real money for a comprehensible and complete guide to the BGS that explains what in devinitys edge is happening in such cases and why. Because the best thing i heared about the BGS and Influence, etc are educated guess and little solid information.
 
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Have the absolute luxury of being able to get some game time today - anyone know if the Outfitting is still shut here ? Tks
 
I'd pay real money for a comprehensible and complete guide to the BGS that explains what in devinitys edge is happening in such cases and why. Because the best thing i heared about the BGS and Influence, etc are educated guess and little solid information.


How much do i agree with you Sir.........Come on the publishers of those idiots books, make one called Elite: Dangerous BGS for Idiots....I'd buy one.

I am bounty hunting everyone who is not Pilots Fed, don't know if that is right or not, just trying to help the Jamison situation. Should we be targeting one particular faction?

I read it is in lockdown in the Beta 4 as well? Is that right? what goes on in the 'Live' galaxy effects the Beta Galaxy? (Or vicci verca). Happy to wing tonight if anyone online UK 18:30 onwards?
 
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Yep, killing all wanted ships except ones from the Pilots Federation. Turning in the bounties at Jameson. Also, doing missions for the Pilots Federation. The ground bases belonging to the Dark Wheel are still giving missions for them, as are neighbouring expansion systems, like LFT 926. :)
 
Metagaming slightly (if that's the right term), I'm a Kickstarter backer and get lifetime access to Founders World and thus get lifetime 10% discount on buying ships/equipment. I realise it's a slight game-imbalance, along with the slightly cheaper insurance, but I'd have thought FD should place the FW system outside any BGS, and remain with a single 100% minor faction. I do realise as the game progresses, and CMDRs make Elite, that that will also unlock more CMDRs access to the FW.

When I need to buy the more expensive ships (anything above T6 / 1m cr) or modules for those bigger ships, I go to FW for the price savings. Indeed, I was thinking of heading over to add some more bits to my Asp Explorer ready for a longer exploration run. I might hold back on that, if it's not currently available.

I do really enjoy the BGS, and spent most of the last year flipping systems in my backwater. I get the mechanics, so I'm not against BGS per se, just that I feel FD should protect FW from its influence, at least to respect those KS backers who had FW access as an added thankyou for helping to pay to build the game in the first place.
 
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Metagaming slightly (if that's the right term), I'm a Kickstarter backer and get lifetime access to Founders World and thus get lifetime 10% discount on buying ships/equipment. I realise it's a slight game-imbalance, along with the slightly cheaper insurance, but I'd have thought FD should place the FW system outside any BGS, and remain with a single 100% minor faction. I do realise as the game progresses, and CMDRs make Elite, that that will also unlock access more CMDRs access to the FW.

When I need to buy the more expensive ships (anything above T6 / 1m cr) or modules for those bigger ships, I go to FW for the price savings. Indeed, I was thinking of heading over to add some more bits to my Asp Explorer ready for a longer exploration run. I might hold back on that, if it's not currently available.

I do really enjoy the BGS, and spent most of the last year flipping systems in my backwater. I get the mechanics, so I'm not against BGS per se, just that I feel FD should protect FW from its influence, at least to respect those KS backers who had FW access as an added thankyou for helping to pay to build the game in the first place.

Yep. How about simply revoking the system permit for repeat offenders? That'd work rather swiftly, I imagine...
 
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Metagaming slightly (if that's the right term), I'm a Kickstarter backer and get lifetime access to Founders World and thus get lifetime 10% discount on buying ships/equipment. I realise it's a slight game-imbalance, along with the slightly cheaper insurance, but I'd have thought FD should place the FW system outside any BGS, and remain with a single 100% minor faction. I do realise as the game progresses, and CMDRs make Elite, that that will also unlock access more CMDRs access to the FW.

When I need to buy the more expensive ships (anything above T6 / 1m cr) or modules for those bigger ships, I go to FW for the price savings. Indeed, I was thinking of heading over to add some more bits to my Asp Explorer ready for a longer exploration run. I might hold back on that, if it's not currently available.

I do really enjoy the BGS, and spent most of the last year flipping systems in my backwater. I get the mechanics, so I'm not against BGS per se, just that I feel FD should protect FW from its influence, at least to respect those KS backers who had FW access as an added thankyou for helping to pay to build the game in the first place.

Go to li Yong-Rui space and actually play the game, you'll get everything cheaper than founders.
In my opinion, the only things that founders should be immune to is faction control changes, and powerplay, which as far as I'm aware, both are already the case. Anything else goes for the system though. Besides, those who have access to founders should know how to find what they're looking for, for cheaper elsewhere. This entitlement nonsense blows my mind. It's a game, go play it, whether that's bounty hunting to fix the issue at hand or buying modules elsewhere and using your noodle in the process. Smh.
 
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Go to li Yong-Rui space and actually play the game, you'll get everything cheaper than founders.
In my opinion, the only things that founders should be immune to is faction control changes, and powerplay, which as far as I'm aware, both are already the case. Anything else goes for the system though. Besides, those who have access to founders should know how to find what they're looking for, for cheaper elsewhere. This entitlement nonsense blows my mind. It's a game, go play it, whether that's bounty hunting to fix the issue at hand or buying modules elsewhere and using your noodle in the process. Smh.

Or how about 'no'.

Do do you think the Elite/Founders can't find 15% discounts elsewhere? Why should idiotic commanders retain their permits to a privileged system, which is bound up with the heart of Elite's lore? For lulz? This entitlement nonsense blows my mind. Smh
 
Or how about 'no'.

Do do you think the Elite/Founders can't find 15% discounts elsewhere? Why should idiotic commanders retain their permits to a privileged system, which is bound up with the heart of Elite's lore? For lulz? This entitlement nonsense blows my mind. Smh

Oh so much this!!!
 
Nice... Just gained my first Elite rank (Trade) and Jameson Memorial is in Lockdown...

Sorry guys, that was my fault.
 
Or how about 'no'.

Do do you think the Elite/Founders can't find 15% discounts elsewhere? Why should idiotic commanders retain their permits to a privileged system, which is bound up with the heart of Elite's lore? For lulz? This entitlement nonsense blows my mind. Smh

Do you have a good reason for the no other than you feel that you have the god given right to all modules at a 10% discount?

The Pilots Federation are not the only faction in that system, I don't think they are the only ones that can revoke a permit to a system where millions live in. I could imagine a meeting and such to take place before they allow to revoke permits. If it was that simple I bet any minor faction with the power to give out permits would revoke said permits as soon as a pilot starts working against them.
 
Do you have a good reason for the no other than you feel that you have the god given right to all modules at a 10% discount?

The Pilots Federation are not the only faction in that system, I don't think they are the only ones that can revoke a permit to a system where millions live in. I could imagine a meeting and such to take place before they allow to revoke permits. If it was that simple I bet any minor faction with the power to give out permits would revoke said permits as soon as a pilot starts working against them.

They are the controlling faction, and they give you the permit. Do I really need to explain this? Shinrarta is steeped in lore, and behaving like an utter tool should get you booted. It wouldn't need to be permanent, people would 'get it' fairly quickly.
 
They are the controlling faction, and they give you the permit. Do I really need to explain this? Shinrarta is steeped in lore, and behaving like an utter tool should get you booted. It wouldn't need to be permanent, people would 'get it' fairly quickly.

Controlling does not mean ''Able to take on every other faction in system at once. Either politically or militarily.''

Steeped in lore does not mean it should be immune to everything.
 
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Controlling does not mean ''Able to take on every other faction in system at once. Either politically or militarily.''

Steeped in lore does not mean it should be immune to everything.

It's not immune to everything! It's true that it remains independent from power play (lore) and the PF cannot be undermined (your point stands). But in terms of common sense, given the nature of the PF, Commanders abusing their headquarters should have their access revoked.

It's okay if we disagree, but I don't think we'll get any further here.
 

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Still on lockdown? I went to the AB3 to join in the bounty hunting and got my butt handed to me on a plate.

Will sulk in the corner for a while.
 
Still on lockdown? I went to the AB3 to join in the bounty hunting and got my butt handed to me on a plate.

Will sulk in the corner for a while.

Was your bottom kicked by NPC or Another Cmdr?

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It's not immune to everything! It's true that it remains independent from power play (lore) and the PF cannot be undermined (your point stands). But in terms of common sense, given the nature of the PF, Commanders abusing their headquarters should have their access revoked.

It's okay if we disagree, but I don't think we'll get any further here.

Any Club/Membership i am a member off has a rule....Misbehave or bring discredit to their Club/Membership and your membership will be revoked.

This works for me and should be active in Elite as well.
 
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