It is used but widely reviled. It's the quickest way to get yourself on a kill on sight list... well, aside from combat logging.
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Friendly warning Deciat/Farseer
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I've gathered as much, but unless you frequent here or on reddit, that's not really common knowledge. Or so it seems atleast.
I'm sure that's true, but some of the larger PVP groups do.
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Well, the guy in the Vette had a clantag. I'd expect this player base to be aware, but apparantly not. Since I'm not really well versed in the PvP-world, I didn't think it was my place to tell him.
Oh, and I was busy running like a little girl. That may have made me forget as well
So because a player decides to use heat weapons as the game has currently taught them that is the most effective method for combat...they get punished for it?
And let me guess every KosHunter will be packing the same?
Kiiiinda hypocritical dontcha think?
Clantags are a sure way of getting onto somebodies Lulzbunny list 
Well, I wasn't really going all that far into it. I'm just trying to organise a wing together for a bit of pewpew against combat oriented players and not traders etc. I'd rather not be put on a KOS list for it either. So far as I know most of them don't do that unless trying to make a point. We can argue the merits or perceived hypocrisy if you like, but a lot of the pvp players I've faced do not use heat meta. They are plenty dangerous without it though.
Also, when I used them purely defensively as a trader in the Love CG, I wasn't given any grief either. The difference is I want a wing to actively engage them with. Does that make sense?
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Kinda yeah.
Sorry but ive seen a few posts where people were raging against those who used heatweapons, but used them themselves.
Frankly I go with whatever I like, and at least keeps me alive, if not make darn sure my foe regrets fighting me in the end
Another failed attempt to dress up griefing as RPG'ing IMO, but nice try.
It's quire lulzworthy really
Whats that to stop some player stating:
"Due to the material and commodity requirements of many Pew-Pews, combined with their random methods of sketchy gameplay, many Pew-Pews are under embargo.
Pew-Pews will be denied targets and their livelihood until their methods are changed.
Cross the embargo line at your own lulz. "
I'm willing to bet cash they wouldn't like that at all!
That wasn't a smart-*** reply. This would have been a smart-*** reply:
Seriously, good hunting to you and others involved with this emerging campaign in Latugara. That is the exact sort of system where relatively unchallenged free-for-all combat should be taking place. Maia, too, had you found any action out there. It's medium security, but low population. Not a lot of resources for law enforcement. But Deciat? The system that kicked off this thread two months ago? Not so much. This is why:
Those allegiances and security ratings are more or less meaningless at the moment, and have been since launch. That's all I have issue with here. Changes are coming; the first stirrings are in 2.2 beta right now. If and when those changes result in a noticeable security improvement in places like Deciat, I'll shut up. Believe me, nobody wants me to drop this subject more than I do. I've been riding this particular horse since at least the start of 2015 and the saddle isn't getting any more comfortable. But until those changes bear fruit (or FD just removes the security ratings altogether and officially makes the whole galaxy a lawless free-for-all) I'll continue to "have a pop" at them from time to time. They designed the galaxy this way, and until they implement game mechanics that fit that design, or throw that design away, they still have work to do. Of course you're free to disagree with that, as long as you understand what it is you're disagreeing with.
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I can't rep you again just now, but this is important. We evidently have a game where the devs are not overly concerned about griefers, but they should be concerned about the internal game mechanics being meaningless. Acting criminally in a high security zone should have severe, escalating, consequences.
Sadly though, these threads are ignored by the dev team. I think it's selective hearing.
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I think it's funny that there's better security in Saint's Row or Grand Theft Auto games than in Elite. More consequences to criminal actions too.
Not to mention that a proper crime and punishment system would have long lasting legal ramifications for rampant killers and make a fun distinction between anarchy systems and safer systems.
I would SO love an overhaul to PP to make Archon Delaine a proper pirate lord where Anarchy systems MATTER.
You just can't drop it can you. I've tried to actually DO something other than moan about it and try to be clever with replies that really aren't needed and now something is happening and yet you still persist, its kinda annoying now. Move on I have
@ozram net problems last night, we need to get another thread up saves time wasting this one as its purpose is probably nearly up
Its up, may need some work https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...re-not-the-enemy!-They-are-the-content-makers
It's looking good.