So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[MarktJones]

I'm still bobbing about between the H and S nebula finding USSs (still all small/large data caches). I've been plotting them to see if any thing becomes apparent (A message spelling "ROGUE AI HERE"). The fact that the USSs only seem to appear in the EAFOTs between the nebula makes me think there might be something her that's based on random chance (99% you get a USS 1% chance you get a thargoid/AI thing) even if it isn't the USSs themselves. The other thing I have been wondering is if the thing out here is just all these wrecks of explorer ships floating about, implying that there's something out here destroying ships...

Someone mentioned earlier that they get graphical glitches, was that between H and S nebula as I've been getting strange colours etc on some of the screens?

Anyway, hope to bump into someone or something out here soon.

 

[Lonesome Joe]

I'm still bobbing about between the H and S nebula

Be sure to have a look at the black hole in Heart Sector ZE-A e11 while you're in the area.

-I spent some time circling it in both supercruise and normal thruster flight, but observed nothing unexpected. Well, aside from the fact that hanging in real space 25 km from a black hole doesn't affect my ship in the slightest...

Thing is, I've a feeling that black holes in nebulas might have something to do with this whole mystery. Maybe there's some way to use them as gates to other black holes in other places, like the Hawking Gap and the Conflux that Salomé suddenly name dropped in her mayday message.

 

[Lonesome Joe]

Greatly appreciated. SYREADIAE GZ-E D12-0 is a neutron star so be careful jumping in. If you can get screenies of the system map... that would be awesome. Especially any details on the Neutron Star itself. She's in the right general area to be a candidate for Cassiopeia A.

I don't think I'll even be able to get there. It's an extremely isolated system, and the max range I can squeeze out of my ship is around 90 LY with low fuel.

I'll make the attempt, but at the very least I'll have to prospect for Polonium first. I very much do not want to become stranded out here with nearly two weeks worth of exploration data...

I notice that the systems are unscanned going towards it, though. It's not a well traveled area at least.

 

[Jaiotu]

I don't think I'll even be able to get there. It's an extremely isolated system, and the max range I can squeeze out of my ship is around 90 LY with low fuel.

I'll make the attempt, but at the very least I'll have to prospect for Polonium first. I very much do not want to become stranded out here with nearly two weeks worth of exploration data...

I notice that the systems are unscanned going towards it, though. It's not a well traveled area at least.

Ah well, thanks for the attempt anyway. Maybe it will be reachable in 2.2?

 

[Râgnôs]

Speculated ramblings:
When Kahina visited mars high and sat at the entrance, she would have been at the gate between Fear and War (Phobos and Deimos Gods of horror and terror respectively and Mars god of War).

And a small clip about the underworld:
In front of the entrance to the underworld live Grief, Anxiety, Diseases and Old Age. Fear, Hunger, Death, Agony, and Sleep also live in front of the entrance, together with Guilty Joys. On the opposite threshold is War, the Erinyes, and Eris.

That would line up with Ishtars trip to the underworld right?

 

[Lonesome Joe]

Speculated ramblings:
When Kahina visited mars high and sat at the entrance, she would have been at the gate between Fear and War (Phobos and Deimos Gods of horror and terror respectively and Mars god of War).

That would line up with Ishtars trip to the underworld right?

It would also line up with the latest Galnet article about Sirius sending out a bunch of "exploration" probes. "We've been working closely with the Mars High Astrocartography department on the probes' design" as they say. It might hint at an exploration data CG coming up, which would be a nice opportunity for me to offload. Once Palin has had enough to be my best friend forever, anyway.

It could also mean Drew's getting impatient to move things on, and we're literally racing Sirius in finding out about this thing now. [big grin]

 

[Jaiotu]

It would also line up with the latest Galnet article about Sirius sending out a bunch of "exploration" probes. "We've been working closely with the Mars High Astrocartography department on the probes' design" as they say. It might hint at an exploration data CG coming up, which would be a nice opportunity for me to offload. Once Palin has had enough to be my best friend forever, anyway.

Everyone has assumed that the Unknown Probes are of alien manufacture. What if the Federation reverse engineered the Unknown Artifacts to create the Unknown Probes? Maybe Sirius is now mass producing this Federation-designed probe to try and locate Ammonia Worlds infested by the Thargoids.

 

[MarktJones]

Be sure to have a look at the black hole in Heart Sector ZE-A e11 while you're in the area.

-I spent some time circling it in both supercruise and normal thruster flight, but observed nothing unexpected. Well, aside from the fact that hanging in real space 25 km from a black hole doesn't affect my ship in the slightest...

Thing is, I've a feeling that black holes in nebulas might have something to do with this whole mystery. Maybe there's some way to use them as gates to other black holes in other places, like the Hawking Gap and the Conflux that Salomé suddenly name dropped in her mayday message.

Cheers, I'll take a look.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Everyone has assumed that the Unknown Probes are of alien manufacture. What if the Federation reverse engineered the Unknown Artifacts to create the Unknown Probes? Maybe Sirius is now mass producing this Federation-designed probe to try and locate Ammonia Worlds infested by the Thargoids.

Already discussed on the UA thread yesterday, see https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4611880&viewfull=1#post4611880

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

It could also mean Drew's getting impatient to move things on, and we're literally racing Sirius in finding out about this thing now. [big grin]

Honestly I wouldn't mind. We've been at this for a long time now, without too much progress TBH. I'd really like to know how all these things fit together now. I'm sure we've been circling the drain for some time.

 

[Lonesome Joe]

With some careful plotting and a bit of FSD boosting, I made it to SYREADIAE GZ-E D12-0.

http://imgur.com/a/rD0TH

Aside from the fact that it's a neutron star, it seems there's nothing special about the system. The challenge of finding a route there was the most interesting thing I've done on this whole trip, though, so it was certainly worth the detour anyway. Thanks for the suggestion. [smile]

The last two images are included to mark the curious phenomenon of the Heart nebula disappearing and reappearing at certain distances; this is almost certainly a bug.

-Anyway, I need to stretch my realworld legs for a bit now. Still open for suggestions to go look at stuff, provided I can make it there without stranding myself; I'm almost out of the big boosters, and really not in the mood for any more hours of surface crawling. [zZzZz]
Otherwise, I'll go have a look at Hypo Aeb AA-A h0, and then I'll definitely be turning back home.

 

[Darth_Angelus]

OMG. NGC 6357 is smack-dab right in the middle. An oft-asked question is why is NGC 6357 so prominently highlighted in the galaxy map.

I feel like I should have noticed that when I marked out the three regions [haha]

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

I'm still bobbing about between the H and S nebula finding USSs (still all small/large data caches). I've been plotting them to see if any thing becomes apparent (A message spelling "ROGUE AI HERE"). The fact that the USSs only seem to appear in the EAFOTs between the nebula makes me think there might be something her that's based on random chance (99% you get a USS 1% chance you get a thargoid/AI thing) even if it isn't the USSs themselves. The other thing I have been wondering is if the thing out here is just all these wrecks of explorer ships floating about, implying that there's something out here destroying ships...

Someone mentioned earlier that they get graphical glitches, was that between H and S nebula as I've been getting strange colours etc on some of the screens?

Anyway, hope to bump into someone or something out here soon.

I've had USSs all over EAFOTS - they're not limited to between the nebulae.

 

[Gypsy12]

INFORMATION INCOMING!

Could a commander currently in the Soul Nebula please go and check:

SOUL SECTOR OS-U C2-5

Please?

Then please add these bookmarks:

S171 - 18
IC 1805 HG 167
SOUL SECTOR OS-U C2-5

Commander in question can then eyeball stars in line of these further out into the EAFOTS sector if they please.

HYPOTHESIS:

When:
S171 - 18 and IC 1805 HG 167

Are lined up, this brings us directly to the Soul Nebula.

When:
WREDGUIA QC-O B35-0 @ position -300,300,-300 (And directly above ROBIGO) and IC 1805 HG 167

Are lined up, this brings us directly to the Heart Nebula. Exactly to HEART SECTOR YE-A D6.

I believe WREDGUIA QC-O B35-0 position is indicative of the story behind Kahina. She had 3 sons, the eldest one adopted and responsible for the other two. Hense - young, old, young. (-300,300,-300)
After extensive testing I can confirm this position is an exact match for a line up to the Heart nebula to HEART SECTOR YE-A D6, while passing through IC 1805 HG 167 (Another highly visible cluster that you cant help but smack into on the way out)

I also believe that the so called ROBIGO runs were a deliberate ploy in order give passing Rifter's pause for thought... Its at position -304, 7, -314. Didn't work for me, because in this case, I actually worked backwards all the way from the heart nebula.
As well as Drew's constant hint drops to the number Three.

The S171 cluster is one of the first things new explorers set out for. It is very visible and full of tasty black holes.

Please remember that it has been said it was possible to find the solution to the Formidine rift long before Drew started hint dropping and Salome's interference. The biggest clues should be mainly visible.

Anyhow hope you lot don't think im totally nuts and that it helps a little.

Gyp.

 

[MekanikDestruktiwKommando]

Greetings everybody.

Firstly, I want to say I don't actually play Elite: Dangerous (dabbled with Frontier: Elite though) but have a friend who plays it on XBox One and he's been out to the Formidine Rift to try and find whatever is out there, without any luck (he was at Jacques Station last I spoke to him).

Anyhow, my reason for posting is that I have another viewpoint on it due to something I was listening to on radio the other day. On that programme, it was mentioned that the Amygdala was the core part of the brain and the Amygdala is responsible for our Fight and Flight responses (and thus our handling of fear/dread). Now as we know Formidine translates to Fear or Dread.

What if the core of the problem was our own mind and our fight and flight response or our own fear of what we're going to find, or perhaps there's nothing out there and it's just space madness that is "worse than the Thargoids". This could also link into the "depends who goes looking" element of Drew's clues.

Of course, what else is perhaps equivalent to the brain? Artificial Intelligence. AIs have been mentioned many times in this mystery and many people feel this is what is out there. If the core of the problem is the brain/amygdala then perhaps an AI is indeed what is out there?

I have no actual answers. Just an another idea to add to the many already mentioned and it maybe false and lead to nowhere.

Just thought it worth a mention.

M.D.K.

 

[FuriousMeow]

4.8KLY from where I noticed the Nav Panel anomaly/glitch which was about an eighth of the way into the gapbetween Perseus arm and Outer arm, about 6KLY from where the NavPanel was glitching way more than first noticed. Haven't seen anything odd for the past 3KLY on the Nav Panel. So if it's a bug it's related/linked to that area of the Galaxy. Or it could be because the NavPanel has a full list of Locations that it prevents whatever was going on. I dunno.

 

[lorrad]

4.8KLY from where I noticed the Nav Panel anomaly/glitch which was about an eighth of the way into the gapbetween Perseus arm and Outer arm, about 6KLY from where the NavPanel was glitching way more than first noticed. Haven't seen anything odd for the past 3KLY on the Nav Panel. So if it's a bug it's related/linked to that area of the Galaxy. Or it could be because the NavPanel has a full list of Locations that it prevents whatever was going on. I dunno.

https://vid.me/mRZM

It's a conspiracy! Or a graphics glitch caused by my specific configuration of hardware and drivers as I haven't seen anyone else complain about it and yes this is from beta. Engineer a 1d power distributor on an Conda what for.

This is a bit of back fill on the eafots, the missing encrypted text, and the camel queen hero.

Ran eaofts and tvqragtrhdh as vigenere cyphers for each other. There's six blocks as there's six positions for where eaofts may start. Line 3 of each is the result using the shifting eafots as they key and line 4 using tvqragtrhdh as the key. Didn't expect anything doing this. The hope is getting the encrypted text from the tionisla graveyard when guardians drops and the camel queen mnenomic is the key.

otseafotsea
tvqragtrhdh
fcynabfyqzh
vycnazvclbt

eafotseafot
tvqragtrhdh
pvletoprcpo
lfpxtmljylm

afotseafots
tvqragtrhdh
tqcysctmtkp
hkycsyhohql

fotseafotse
tvqragtrhdh
ohxzwgodold
mtdbeumxmpx

otseafotsea
tvqragtrhdh
fcynabfypzh
vycnazvclbt

tseafotseaf
tvqragtrhdh
dmrfsazddc
axojfiabxxy

seafotseafo
tvqragtrhdh
brqmonbnhyt
zjkoonzntch

Maybe someone else can see something I don't, always a good probability.

The only one that looked even remotely interesting to me was ohxzwgodold. Vigenere squares don't have numbers, it would have to be something that looks like numbers to get subsector and system out of it, you couldn't get something like eaofts GR-Y B2-17 out of it easily. oh! EAFOTS xz-w G0 D0 1d, doesn't quite work out,,, G could be a 6, D could stand in for 4, 1d planet and moon,,,,something like that,,,

as i said a bit of back fill
just in case

Hadn't looked before posting this but eafots xz-w does exist with only 15 systems to check maybe keeping old god in mind as a further clue? Anyone still out there?

 

[FertilePanther]

Could someone make a near perfect equilateral triangle based on the locations of the gap and the conflux with the third point near the rift? Not sure if it would work. Still can't get online to try for myself.

Knowing that NGC 6357 is smack dab in the middle of the traingle makes me think it's worth a try.

 

[FuriousMeow]

Do Heat Sinks auto-resupply after a period of time? I accidentally fired one off a week or two ago, actually that's the 2nd time it's happened, but now it is showing that I am fully loaded up on heat sinks again.

 

[lorrad]

Do Heat Sinks auto-resupply after a period of time? I accidentally fired one off a week or two ago, actually that's the 2nd time it's happened, but now it is showing that I am fully loaded up on heat sinks again.

Sssssuuusssshhhhhhhhhh!

Can happen with all sorts of things once I got all my hull damage back from 24%.

[looks around] After a repair accident, as soon as I took life support offline for repair I exploded, sent in the video, complained got my insurance back and after not moving for two days got all my exploration data back too! They say they can't do that but they can. I think the trick is to do nothing after the re-buy screen until it comes back. [/looks around]

Ya we're good no one heard that.