2.2 is rather a disappointment

[Cmdr Esteban]

So you have the info, and you're withholding it just to take insulting potshots...

Not withholding any info there. Where I might find low paying missions you might find a gold mine - it's dependent on status - factions you're allied or friendly with. But also, discovery. I might be able to find one or two systems that i can't recall offhand that could net you better cash if I turned on my PC and launched the game again (after midnight here, going to bed), but it would be pointless - you might be on the other side of the bubble in Empire space for all I know, and more than capable of finding your own high paying activity through your own discovery.

And that's my point - your own discovery. How boring to follow everyone else's Sothis and Robigo.

My post did not hide any info on a new cash-cow, it was much more in the vain of "If you teach a man to fish... "

I'm sorry you missed that.

 

[Cmdr BurntrubberRB26]

To thoswho have the decency to not take cheap shots and bash my OP, thank you. I understand constructive criticism very well and have taken everything you guys have said to practice. Missions provide variety, as i dont lleally care for the cash cow grinding. Thats really not what i want out of Elite. I enjoy combat, trading/smuggling, resource extraction, everything in between. But i do see a benefit to those particular systems with LRMs.

What i dont see is the harm. What i dont see is the problem? What dont understand is why this patch came out lf Beta, with the mission bugs it now has, because you couldnt leave the high profit LRMs alone. If you don't like them, then UA bomb the crap out of them for all i care!!

Here is another thought! What about new cmdrs? The ones who dont know what it wwas like before 2.2? They log on for the first time, the first thing they see at Trevithick? Mission board!

He/she Does a mission or two. Gets to a star port. See's the shipyard for the first time. Finds a ship they want, sees the price tag. They do a little math after making a couple 3000cr delivery runs, becoms discouraged. Never plays the game again. In fact, they go as far as to request a refund from Steam or FD store. We are experienced players. We see the bugs and recognize whats wrong.

Start thinking of other commanders besides yourself.

 

[Ddraig]

Oh that must be very easy for you to say sitting in your Andaconda and your vast amounts of credits and fleet occupying space in Star Ports. Go ahead and start a new profile on Elite. Start from a new commander prospective with your experinece in this game. Its not just the LRMs. Its all missions, unnecessarily nerfed, and for what?

oh yes, please tell me how am i to adapt and overcome?

And you forget that many of us did that money when there was no sothis, ceos or any of the long distance, easy, cheap, smuggling/biowaste cargo runs. Actually I remember the best reward I got was like 4k credits and all was pretty good to be honest. This is back to normal plus some minor adjustment that the Devs said it was going to happen in the next patches and fixes.

Suck it up.

 

[Scoopy Doopy]

I reset my account a while ago by accident. At the time I had an Asp X, a Vulture, sidewinder or two and a Cobra MKIII

It didn't take very long to get back everything I had really. You can get out of that sidewinder in no time with a quick trip to a rez and you get the sense of progression you feel is missing.

Perhaps you are focusing on the end game ships too much. Just progress up the ladder, it's fun and rewarding.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Here is another thought! What about new cmdrs? The ones who dont know what it wwas like before 2.2? They log on for the first time, the first thing they see at Trevithick? Mission board!

He/she Does a mission or two. Gets to a star port. See's the shipyard for the first time. Finds a ship they want, sees the price tag. They do a little math after making a couple 3000cr delivery runs, becoms discouraged. Never plays the game again. In fact, they go as far as to request a refund from Steam or FD store. We are experienced players. We see the bugs and recognize whats wrong.

Start thinking of other commanders besides yourself.

When I started in 1.0 payouts were a mere fraction of what they were now. Basic delivery missions paid a couple hundred credits, killing an elite conda got you a couple thousand. Anyway, the in-bubble transport rewards are apparantly bugged. Still, even with that as it is, making money in 2.2 is infinitely easier than it was for many of us. Which is fine, but please dont pretend its all so very hard for new cmdrs because it is not.

 

[dutchy2000]

I love how you gathered that i want the biggest ship out of this. Im only in an asp explorer on Xbox. I just wanted to span that gap. I dont even have 50mil in assets on my xbone. What are you getting at? What is this generic thought that Im unable to concieve another way to grind CR? What is this implimentation that the only thing ive ever done is run these missions? I just saw it as a quick jump back to where I am on my Xbox profile. I just want to bounty hunt with my T.Flight HOTAS 4 comfortably. Why is that so wrong?

If you dont like it, or my opinion, then why dont you get over it?

So you are in an Asp on your xbone account, ceos sothis would be useless for you there as well. But I guess your problem is that the regular 'low paying' missions have been hit by the nerf bat as well. Yeah that is a problem and should be corrected. Now to get easily and quickly get out of your side winder and into a low rated cobra for some fun res site shooting, simple. Get some gimballed pulses on your sidey. Go to a low res (lots in the starter system) follow the cops around, before something that is about to blow up goes poof, shoot it a couple of times. Easy enough to get 500k out of that. Either upgrade your side some more, get a discovery scanner and fuel scoop and jump around close by systems. Should get your another couple 100k. That gives you a million or so. Easy enough to outfit a C/D rated viper or cobra. Go to high rez follow cops, make more money and off you go. Should not take more than a few hours. That is what I did when I first start many moons ago, and is still valid now.

Oh btw I don't care one way or the other about ceos/sothis. I did abuse it to get my trade elite rank because I can't get myself to do A/B trading much. But I had tons of money before that anyway, just wanted to get the ranks out of the way.

Oh and one more thing, the whole tone of your OP was just plain rude and unacceptable and I am not at all surprised at the negative reactions you got from it. My initial reaction was, man this guys is a complete explative, go bleep yourself. But I was in a good place so I decided to be helpful instead of telling you to go bleep yourself.

 

[Obnoxious_Gamer]

Oh so your financially well off as of the patch, good for you. Im still in a        g sindwinder.

Thank you for proving my point.

This is the funniest, and probably the most accurate thing I've heard all week.

 

[Tataboj]

Could you just do one of the milion ways to get money people here have shared with you and stop insulting the whole community?

 

[Bokugo]

How about we just get some screenshots of the mission board to see proof of either side of this argument

 

[TigerTen]

As normal the response is: Play it our way or The Highway !!!

So that must be why I have gone from playing 30+ hours to 5 hours a week...

Sad... They put good stuff in to the game, but with a half hearted effort I feel...

The Betas are too rushed ...

 

[Adhock]

This is completely unfair and uncalled for.

Given the amount of flak I've taken because people did not read through the whole post and focused on the wrong part of it as opposed to it's actual point I say it was actually a pretty bad exploit.

There's an element of truth to the Elitists in that topic in that plenty of people have complained about loosing a ship they didn't have the practice to fly. I see a lot of requests for QoL elements that are already in the game if people would pay attention to their instruments more.

Yet they don't because they're too busy running the cheapest, largest, least dependable builds possible in an attempt to carry around fat wads of cash they have no idea how to spend properly because they didn't do enough experimenting.

I'm essentially stuck at lower tiers because I'm usually perpetually poor. I don't like doing these mainstream credit farms. I'm too busy actually playing the game and figuring out how it works. Yes I want a large ship because they're cool and I like big ships with big guns. But I'm enjoying being able to fly around at high speed in small agile ships too.

Play Elite for the game. Not for the credits which is the only thing that seems to matter to you in this post.

Those Escorts will be there when I get there. I just have to be tenacious.

 

[lifeschool-amiga]

Im glad that the billionaire Sothis route has been closed down, if for no other reason then to stop all the endless smug comments. "Time for another Sothis run!" I think exploiting a loophole to earn a fortune is the lowest form of gameplay, and now that it has gone away, I hope players can avoid answering every question with "just do a Sothis run".

Its too early to say whether 2.2 is any good, I only just discovered the keybinding for 'laser colour' and 'engine colour' today....

 

[Tuub t Tute]

Before 2.1 HIP 10716 was great for stacking skimmer missions. Stack missions, fly round the planet to the mission base, rain dumbfire death down on the base (Spanish sounding name I think?) then either fly back or be even more cynical and suicide-winder back to the collection base. I did it for faction more than wealth, it was possible to stack 50+ missions that way if you could stand the boredom.
I say pre-2.1 because I think they softened up dumbfires or hardened up skimmers? I think possibly mines are now the weapon of choice for skimmers, perhaps someone with practical experience could confirm?

 

[Privata]

It was an oversight/bug that the prices ever got that high.

The game's progress is allready way too fast.

A good bounty used to be 1500crs
It was said we would start with 100cr but it was made 1000.

In about an hour of play without missions you can make it to an cobra MKIII without any issues. faster if you use missions.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

Before 2.1 HIP 10716 was great for stacking skimmer missions. Stack missions, fly round the planet to the mission base, rain dumbfire death down on the base (Spanish sounding name I think?) then either fly back or be even more cynical and suicide-winder back to the collection base. I did it for faction more than wealth, it was possible to stack 50+ missions that way if you could stand the boredom.
I say pre-2.1 because I think they softened up dumbfires or hardened up skimmers? I think possibly mines are now the weapon of choice for skimmers, perhaps someone with practical experience could confirm?

I hope you dont mind me asking but whats the fun in that?

Elite is about the long burn , its about being nothing and rising and becoming better by trial and error.
In elite you are just another pilot , just a pointless cog. and thats what I think is great.

It makes the universe feel bigger and more intresting

 

[=71st=RuSh]

Well, i was excited for the new update. Just logged on. But you guys already ticked me off to the point i dont even care to try out the new features. You guys took away a certain element of the game, that WASNT HURTING ANYONE!!!! You know, Ceos, Sothis, Aditi.... Oh wow, some of the guys and gals who didnt learn about them in time before griding hundreds of hours to buy an Andaconda were a little mad and upset, and you couldnt just leave it with the option of UA bombing, I mean that balanced it out pretty well because it renders a star port pretty much useless. There was honestly nothing wrong with the LRM's. You stooped pretty low Frontier. You catered to a smaller minority of people who were whining, when the other 75% of us loved it. Thanks for ruining my excitement for 2.2.

I came from xbox one, just bought Elite for PC a few days ago when i bought a T.Flight/HOTAS. I needed those LRMs to span the gap to that of my Xbox Profile. I regret buying it for PC now, because i have to put in months of playing just to get back to where i was. I work full time, i dont have the time to do all of that grinding, and i dont think the cost to benefit ratio here is sufficent.

Lets be honest here. 2.2 feels beneficial only to those who were financially well off before tte update, and from an experienced, long time player of Elite: Dangerous, the hopes of being able to enjoy this game on PC greatly diminished.

Yeah, Im going to go ahead and say it.

This is completely unfair and uncalled for.

+1 Yesterday i connected, took a look at the missions and the Credits they offered, and simply turned off the game!

 

[Vasious]

Oh so your financially well off as of the patch, good for you. Im still in a        g sindwinder.

Thank you for proving my point.

The Sidewinder has the Capacity to do the LRM From Sothis to begin with?

If your in a Sidewinder you are better off doing these missions

Just work on getting a good rep with several factions in an area, and look out for the right faction states to generate this type of missions.

That Salvage mission was for 4 tons, an easy Job for a Sidewinder.

6 Million for 10 minutes work of picking up 4 tons of cargo one jump away, in a Sidewinder, meet your needs?

 

[Andovar]

What i dont see is the harm. What i dont see is the problem? What dont understand is why this patch came out lf Beta, with the mission bugs it now has, because you couldnt leave the high profit LRMs alone. If you don't like them, then UA bomb the crap out of them for all i care!!

Maybe it's as simple as FD decided that it was unbalanced and not good for the gameplay of their game.

Here is another thought! What about new cmdrs? The ones who dont know what it wwas like before 2.2? They log on for the first time, the first thing they see at Trevithick? Mission board!

He/she Does a mission or two. Gets to a star port. See's the shipyard for the first time. Finds a ship they want, sees the price tag. They do a little math after making a couple 3000cr delivery runs, becoms discouraged. Never plays the game again. In fact, they go as far as to request a refund from Steam or FD store. We are experienced players. We see the bugs and recognize whats wrong.

Start thinking of other commanders besides yourself.

Regarding the apparent 'nerf' of regular missions, it's been said several times that this is a bug. (though I don't have an official source)
How about we give it a few days and wait for the first post-release patch before declaring that the whole 2.2 patch is a disappointment?


EDIT: finally found a source:

There's an issue with delivery mission rewards that is being investigated.

Michael

In regards to sothis/ceos:

It won't go back to its previous levels.

Michael

 

[Mohenjo]

I don't know what this is about. What was so special about Sothis, et al.?

 

[CMDR Ellegon]

So you have the info, and you're withholding it just to take insulting potshots.

This community is garbage.

If that is so, why the hell are you still here? Somebody with your attitude should simply be ignored, which is exactly what I will do from now on.

 

[Tuub t Tute]

It was an oversight/bug that the prices ever got that high.

The game's progress is allready way too fast.

A good bounty used to be 1500crs
It was said we would start with 100cr but it was made 1000.

In about an hour of play without missions you can make it to an cobra MKIII without any issues. faster if you use missions.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -


I hope you dont mind me asking but whats the fun in that?

Elite is about the long burn , its about being nothing and rising and becoming better by trial and error.
In elite you are just another pilot , just a pointless cog. and thats what I think is great.

It makes the universe feel bigger and more intresting

The OP wasn't asking for fun, he was asking for a reliable earner. Everyone telling him to have fun and enjoy the game reminded me of me telling my children to find ways to amuse themselves when their tv screen timer kicks in...

So I decided to try another tack and offer what little, if possibly out of date, knowledge I had.