Engineers FDev - NPCs need to drop very rare mats

CMDR MERANGO · Oct 30, 2016

Its about time FDev sorted the game so that NPCs, when killed, drop very rare materials i.e. Exquisite Focus Crystals and Pharmaceutical Isolators etc.

If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Balance please.

CMIV

Elprez · Oct 30, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
Its about time FDev sorted the game so that NPCs, when killed, drop very rare materials i.e. Exquisite Focus Crystals and Pharmaceutical Isolators etc.

If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Balance please.

CMIV

I agree with this. Seems short sighted when every kill nets you basically nothing useful....

metatheurgist · Oct 31, 2016

Pharmaceutical isolators are common as dirt in High Grade Emissions in Outbreak systems. I picked up 15 the other day without even looking for them, in the one USS. EFCs you might have a point, but if they came off ship kills everyone would have them easily.

Ian Doncaster · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
very rare

Surely that's the point. If they turned up more often they'd be "common".

Unless you're going for a top-end PvP fit, the level 4 upgrades don't require any very rare materials at all and are more than sufficient for everything else.

The Tick · Oct 31, 2016

I think there's plenty of info available in these forums how to find the very rare mats. I can now pretty reliably find the mats I need. Yes, it could be more obvious (with better in game hints), and yes, it's a grind at times. IF it's your only focus at that time.
If you consider any material find a bonus to what your are currently doing, it completely changes the perception.

Looking at how seldom 'rare' materials spawn from NPCs, I worry about how rarely 'very rare' would spawn. Like 'Abnormal Compact Emission Data' from scanning NPCs? Then expect the true grind. IMHO, collecting these items from high grade emission sources is way less grindy.

Ok, EFCs are an exception

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Robert Maynard · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Would we? I recall Sandro ruling out players dropping materials on their destruction....

Lucius-Darcia · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
Its about time FDev sorted the game so that NPCs, when killed, drop very rare materials i.e. Exquisite Focus Crystals and Pharmaceutical Isolators etc.

If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Balance please.

CMIV

Agree

Deadly and Elite NPC's should have at least 10%-20% chance to drop these rare mats.
It's annoying to fight these super pirates only to see the same crap i have already 100 times.

But this is just a drop of water on a hot stone because the complete RNGineers are just nonsense

xondk · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
Its about time FDev sorted the game so that NPCs, when killed, drop very rare materials i.e. Exquisite Focus Crystals and Pharmaceutical Isolators etc.

If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Balance please.

CMIV

Having gotten both from kills, I feel I can say "They do"
The thing is its "very rare"

DragoonKnight · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR MERANGOIV said:
Its about time FDev sorted the game so that NPCs, when killed, drop very rare materials i.e. Exquisite Focus Crystals and Pharmaceutical Isolators etc.

If we get killed we would drop ours if modded, they need to as well.

Balance please.

CMIV

They are very rare for a reason. Killing NPCs is trivial and finding NPC ships is easy. So that wouldnt work well with keeping these mats rare.
In fact Pharmaceutical Isolators are not that hard to come by as is. You get 3 with every pickup. I have a total of 19.
Exquisite Focus Crystals are from missions and I've got 13 of those.
There are really no hard to acquire mats at this point no matter how hard you try to spin it. Compare this to other games and crafting anything in Elite is not very hard.

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Lucius-Darcia said:
Agree

Deadly and Elite NPC's should have at least 10%-20% chance to drop these rare mats.
It's annoying to fight these super pirates only to see the same crap i have already 100 times.

But this is just a drop of water on a hot stone because the complete RNGineers are just nonsense

Then that would translate to a 10-20% overall drop chance. Any pirates that interdict me these days are ranked at least Deadly. If you spent as much time playing the game as you do trying to complain and dumb it down, then you would have already had all your EFC and PI that you need.