Mmmmmmmmmmm!?
So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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Mmmmmmmmmmm!?
@Lorrad
How far is that from PHRIO PHOE MP-E D12-11 (CoR Listening Post Beta) ?
How far is that from PHRIO PHOE MP-E D12-11 (CoR Listening Post Beta) ?
Doesn't look all bad. Absolutely worth a closer look around those systems.
As a pointer to the right region it's quite obscure, but why not?
1360 from PHRIO PHOE MP-E D12-11
but only 731 from wp 4 NGC 457 Sector ZV-O B22-0
The point of this cluster of 10 systems is they are the closest to R-R line where it intersects EAFOTS.
[puff,puff] Further at first I thought it was an angry wolf but on closer inspection although neck hair is up it's not in anger but surprise and fear.
It's a scaredy wolf!
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It must be the view of the NGC 281 Nebula from here [Eafots TH-C b54-2] though can't seem to get the wolf face happening in galmap.
In the skybox it looks like its looking at the heart and soul.
Thanks for going to the EAFOTS cluster. As you add systems into EDDB, I will update the 3-D model. Maybe this is more of a jigsaw puzzle. As more pieces are put in place, a picture will start to emerge. If you can target a system in the general direction of the wolf ( I prefer fox...) I can draw a line from the system your in through the target system in the model so we can get a general idea of it's location.
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Just giving an update on my progress so far - having crossed what has been labelled the Formidine Rift on our maps by a good bit now, I've decided to continue onwards to the edge of the New Arm, in case the quote 'keep going' was meant to be taken literally (and also to satisfy my own sense of ambition in seeing how far out I can go).
I've got a range of 58LY on fumes, and obviously that has made crossing the rift a piece of cake. I went somewhat 'east' of the Heisenberg bridge to see if I could make it through a part between the arms that would presumably be even harder to cross, but with the range it was a breeze. I then circled around west to hit the end of the Heisenberg crossing, then went out to the New Arm on a straight line through Sag A (ie. mostly perpendicular to the spiral).
The one thing of note I've seen so far is that in 15KLY from Sol, I have come across 1 ("one") unscoopable. Now that is a first for me. Admittedly, I've gone way below the plane and thus avoided the badlands layer, but still, this seems odd.
And for the last two Kylies (ie. from SPONGAEA through GROEC through DRYOAE), I've hit more than the usual number of single or binary star systems completely void of planets. This will be a peculiarity of the stellar forge, I wager. <---have wanted to drop that one in this thread for ages now, ho ho ho.
I've got a range of 58LY on fumes, and obviously that has made crossing the rift a piece of cake. I went somewhat 'east' of the Heisenberg bridge to see if I could make it through a part between the arms that would presumably be even harder to cross, but with the range it was a breeze. I then circled around west to hit the end of the Heisenberg crossing, then went out to the New Arm on a straight line through Sag A (ie. mostly perpendicular to the spiral).
The one thing of note I've seen so far is that in 15KLY from Sol, I have come across 1 ("one") unscoopable. Now that is a first for me. Admittedly, I've gone way below the plane and thus avoided the badlands layer, but still, this seems odd.
And for the last two Kylies (ie. from SPONGAEA through GROEC through DRYOAE), I've hit more than the usual number of single or binary star systems completely void of planets. This will be a peculiarity of the stellar forge, I wager. <---have wanted to drop that one in this thread for ages now, ho ho ho.
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Well, o I see, the wolf shall be an honorary fox.
I checked maybe 8 systems around Eafots TH-C b54-2 and NGC 281 only looks like the 'fox' from there. I'm at the 'fox' itself and am about to land on the one system in BD+55 191 in NGC 281 nebula. It's an interesting place, looked like a potential nav hazard going in but wasn't consists of 2 pair of closely orbiting Actinic [my favorite] Class O stars and one lonely landable planet. I have to wonder if anyone has ever landed here as the system was discovered by the intrepid Allitnil long before anything was landable. In fact I think when I scanned it got its first update showing the resources such as 1.0% Polonium, odd place for it. Pretty place if nothing else.
I could not quite let go of the 'coordinates at the end of this message' thing.
The sentence 'Right on, commander' contains the letters for the word 'Coordinate'. When extracting these letters, we end up with a few possible anagrams.
- Coordinate Rgh n, mm
- Coordinate Rgh, mmn
- Coordinate ghn, mmr
- Coordinate gh, mmnr
I don't know if any of these can be converted to useful numbers? In any case there are only two coordinates, so the vertical coordinate may have to be taken from the RR-line.
The sentence 'Right on, commander' contains the letters for the word 'Coordinate'. When extracting these letters, we end up with a few possible anagrams.
- Coordinate Rgh n, mm
- Coordinate Rgh, mmn
- Coordinate ghn, mmr
- Coordinate gh, mmnr
I don't know if any of these can be converted to useful numbers? In any case there are only two coordinates, so the vertical coordinate may have to be taken from the RR-line.
Or how about a distance along the r-r line and a radius from that point?
Hassan and Salome do see the coordinates at the end of the message but we don't. That doesn't mean it isn't encoded in the text. Even though the book came out before the game went live, doesn't mean they hadn't prepared the implanting in the game.
Or we're at a point where we're spinning wheels and going in circles, again.
I'd bet the wolf face even if it isn't just an apparitional coincidence was one we were supposed to notice over a year ago to be amongst the first pointers to the Heart and Soul.
Nice find!!
However on the second and on the third look to me it does resemble more of a pig-face that a wolf one.
The wolf/fox face is interesting but I can't see it fits the 'dreadful fear' of 'Formidine' or complies with TOL's words either, so either that isn't the mystery, or it's only one part of something larger (remember Drew's comment that we may have seen some aspects of it without understanding).
But we had "core of the problem" (-> Heart Nebula) ages ago but the clue of the Tionisla signal OTSEAFOTSEA.... only recently, so that should be more meaningful. To locating the mystery.
Has anyone surveyed all 10 of Cmdr Macklin Fox's Eafots cluster close to the R-R line?
Has anyone extended the search out beyond those 10?
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I'm curious as to why an alien would do its alien thing at a particular location because two stars and a nebula look a bit like a creature from a planet it's never even heard of.
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Who said it has to be aliens? It is quite possible the thing worse than the Thargoids is us.
Good question. I'd hazard a guess the Eafots systems along the R/R line were probably the first ones targeted by players. This is an image of Eafots on EDSM. As you can see a vast amount of searching during the Rift Expedition 3302 has already gone on out there, but its still only a fraction of what is actually there.
The 'we may have already seen aspects of it' line tells me that EAFOTs may be a stepping stone, a place where one can view 'it'... but may not necessarily contain 'it'.
But it would be great to have some physical content to work with. Like the UA mystery has had for over a year, and now the abandoned bases mystery has, and the alien shipwreck mystery, and the archeological site mystery... all mysteries that have interesting physical content in game - puzzles to work with and study. The rift is the oldest mystery of all, but has had literally nothing 'physical' to interact with in that sense (just rumors of a location). Clues from Salomé in game, and cryptic GalNet posts (few and far between), yes... but precious little else. Of course, everything could be interconnected, and we've all missed the dots!
Before she was silenced, Salomé did say the happenings in the Pleiades, Conflux, Hawking's Gap, and Formidine Rift are all linked.
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See above for one set of possibilities. I can't believe we are doing this by the way.
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Doesn't really answer the question of why there though.
Can the sentence "You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars" be interpreted as "she saw the fleet of octagonal ships while passing through and sailing beyond the rift"? In other words, while she was in the rift, not after? Perhaps those tharg ships have cloaking capabilities and can hide systems in the rift and that's why the rift is the rift? The ships also cloak them selves so you cannot see those either? Why they'd do that? So that they can continue their life without worrying that we attack them again? And perhaps prepare for a revenge?
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."
She must have found a way to disable their cloaking?
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."
She must have found a way to disable their cloaking?
This has been clarified as being a list of things which the speaker has seen - that is, the Rift and the octagonal ships are two separate things, not octagonal ships beyond the Rift.
Even better then, right? Or should we not consider those as clues to the mystery at all? (seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars)
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The octagonal ships are nothing to do with the Rift.