If the pattern of from the obelisk spectrogram is seemingly random, perhaps there is some form of timestamp forming part of it...
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Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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ok so im am now wondering if there is a note communication pattern going on like in close encounters of the third kind.
https://www.ars-nova.com/Theory Q&A/Q35.html
we have recurring "notes"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodály_method
i cant put my finger on it but the note played on a piano seem familiar.....or im just reaching lol
i managed to use this page to convert to music....sounded a little morse code like
https://p22.com/musicfont/
file
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2gJxVbUGO2xVDU0NDM3ZjF1Q3M/view?usp=sharing
https://www.ars-nova.com/Theory Q&A/Q35.html
we have recurring "notes"
afdfafffaddfaafaadafffdadafaddfadfdaadadddafddadfafadfafdaddadafdafadfdfaafafdadadf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodály_method
i cant put my finger on it but the note played on a piano seem familiar.....or im just reaching lol
i managed to use this page to convert to music....sounded a little morse code like
https://p22.com/musicfont/
file
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2gJxVbUGO2xVDU0NDM3ZjF1Q3M/view?usp=sharing
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I like the idea that it could be music related. Are there any 20th/21st Century Films with notable 3 tone sound tracks?
I know Frontier uses the 2001 Space Odyssey for the Docking music.
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OK so I'm coming back to this after a few days off and I'm noticing the thing about the possible barcodes on the front page. I did a fair amount of looking at this over the last couple of weeks, starting when I was recording the patterns. I was talking to a couple of people on Discord at some point last week and we were talking about the fact that there were some "objects" in the spectrogram of the audio from the Obelisks. I recorded 3 separate recording of the audio and then ran them through a Spectrogram. The first one was 15 mins long, the second was 30 mins and the last one was 1 hour and 5 minutes. In all of the recordings I did not see the "pattern" repeat once. Every single time it was different and the only common factor between them was the slightly bigger block at the end of each burst.
I guess my question to the people working on this is if there was some signal in there, do you not think it would repeat within an hour?
I guess my question to the people working on this is if there was some signal in there, do you not think it would repeat within an hour?
Not that I am aware of at the moment, I just remembered the 5 note communication in Close encounters. I was going to see if it was Morse code but out of time n heading out for a while to do real world stuff
Edit: chords? They could just keep going without a loop?
Edit: chords? They could just keep going without a loop?
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Could the obelisk sound spectrograph actually represent a light spectrograph from a specific star or nebula? The "barcode" style graphs look similar in format, sort of. That would require going completely out of the game to solve the puzzle though with some pretty heavy duty research online, so probably unlikely?
The fact that it doesn't repeat is what is intriguing. By rights FDev should have used a short sound loop for efficiency, puzzle or not. Instead they've allocated resources to an always-on RNG. It just doesn't make sense.
This is either a functional and very long loop, or FDev is trolling real hard.
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Or represent a specific class of star perhaps, which would be a more generic light spectrograph and more easily identifiable?
Just a thought, and I may be wildly off target here - but does anyone remember the Spectrum 48k version of Elite? I guess so?
Do you remember the terrible copy protection it had? Lenslok?
It used a prism to decode a series of blocks on screen, that looked a little like a barcode?
Now, where have I seen a prism?
Do you remember the terrible copy protection it had? Lenslok?
It used a prism to decode a series of blocks on screen, that looked a little like a barcode?
Now, where have I seen a prism?
Tried that... No dice. It doesn't add up to any notes you could play, too many uncertainties without knowing which of those is C...
Also tried to adjust the bars to note types and pauses (full note, half note, 1/8, 1/16 etc.) - no pattern.
I got another crazy idea, but it depends on the obelisks' heatmap app showing accurate variations of the pattern (hope it does...) Will update you guys if I'll find something worthwhile.
Ahh ok...with the stuff posted I was wondering if they could be sets of 3 note chords. Could explain why the spectrographresults are so long...
Oh well lol
Oh well lol
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Ericlas yesterday reported finding some repetition, see
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/300054-Alien-archeology-and-other-mysteries-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=4756159&viewfull=1#post4756159
We're talking about the entire message being repeated, rather than what Ericlas has found which is akin to characters within the message being repeated.
Repetition generally indicates it's intentional to some degree.
so far we believe it isn't:
Morse code
Binary(0,1, separator) or Ternary(0,1,2)
DNA
Music Notes
aligned with the galaxy map
any known bar codes (Royal, PostNet, IMB, Australia Post, Japan Post, PLANET)
what's left?
EDIT: What would be really crazy, is if it's just telling the local time, and FDev has been trolling us to stall progress for a bit.
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Or we need to activate some trigger to make sense of the hidden signal. And the current random signal is just there to show us that we need to keep investigating the site.
Has anyone considered it may mark time?
Think of a 24 hour clock for example, seconds count to 60 with no repetition until it loops, same with minutes (but it takes longer) and same with hours (it takes even longer) and days etc...
So while there would be intermittent repeating patterns, the overall pattern wouldn't fully repeat itself within a small 'time frame'
You have to consider how we/ 'the aliens' mark time. We do it using the rotation of our planet. 1 rotation = 24 hours.
Realistically if we were to colonise or inhabit other planets, we would standardise to that planets time (as you do with time zones - just on a bigger scale)
So, what if it is marking time in a way that is standard to that planet? ...e.g. 1 day = 165.6ish of our hours
~just to clarify i am only assuming the use of hours, minutes and seconds to illustrate my theory~
Either that, or it's a count down? (again in PST -planetary standardised time
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I'm inclined to agree, the system's my map points to seem to be a bust, both are relatively uninteresting. I've been scouring the worlds in my alpha system for days now and not found anything. With the amount of ground to cover there could still be something I just missed of course, but I think the more likely scenario is that my map has issues.
I still think I'm on the right track, that 368m distance between the large pad and the peak of the north pyramid is just too coincidental to ignore IMHO, but I think my theory needs refinement or more information to tighten it up. Hamalot's survey has a few measurements that are just slightly different from mine, so I'm heading back to the ruins tonight to do more work. Even just a couple meters in any direction could make the difference. I'm also beginning to wonder if I over analyzed it a bit. I got my galaxy map coordinates from a 3D model I constructed using the ruin dimensions, but I have to wonder if that was wrong? The ruin creator might have just intended to use the features as a map communicating pure 2D distances between systems, irregardless of the Z axis, so I'm going to try making my model a purely 2D map and check those new coordinates to see if they point to anything of interest.
I've given up on the obelisk sound data, I can't figure anything intelligible from that so I'll just focus on the map, LOL!!!
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