General / Off-Topic Why trump won

No offense intended at all Adept - and please don't take this in the wrong way - but the leader of a country has to be in some way biased against the leaders and peoples of other countries in order to put their interests ahead of other countries.

Or there would be no need for country leaders, or countries.

What has this got to do with anything? Are you saying that Trump's racist about Mexians, Muslims etc is ok, because "every leader has to be a little bit biased"? I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say here. How about making fun of the handicapped? Is he supposed to be put the interests of the non-handicapped before them? Is that just what leaders are like?
 
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America first transcends all the "isms" the left tries to use to divide the US.

And the BEST video of the day

[video=youtube;zT0Rjc6jKCg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg[/video]

So many experts to listen to...
 
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I would Post You Tube Videos about People Unhappy with Trump and who Explain how Racist etc he is.
But Heck I dont think I would be Finished Adding Videos before I have to get to Work in 3 Hours cuz theres so damn many of them....


Mate no Offense. But Spamming Youtube Videos aint helping anyone.

Here have a Video which Proves that Earth is Actually Flat.
[video=youtube;iWZMhpfNQzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWZMhpfNQzY[/video]

At least to People who apparently think that YouTube Videos are Experts Talking lol.....
Just because someone on YouTube wears a Suite and explains something to you he doesnt mean he has to be an Expert :rolleyes:
 
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I would Post You Tube Videos about People Unhappy with Trump and who Explain how Racist etc he is.
But Heck I dont think I would be Finished Adding Videos before I have to get to Work in 3 Hours cuz theres so damn many of them....


Mate no Offense. But Spamming Youtube Videos aint helping anyone.

Here have a Video which Proves that Earth is Actually Flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWZMhpfNQzY

At least to People who apparently think that YouTube Videos are Experts Talking lol.....
Just because someone on YouTube wears a Suite and explains something to you he doesnt mean he has to be an Expert :rolleyes:

I'm sorry - I keep forgetting how much some people only want one viewpoint to be represented.

Silly me
 
I'm sorry - I keep forgetting how much some people only want one viewpoint to be represented.

Silly me

Viewpoints are fine, as long as they're logically consistent and based on rationality. The view of the "intelligent man" offering "we're tired of you crybabies" as a reason for Trump winning is not based on rationality or logical consistency. In fact it's not even based on sanity. The best moment was his statement "You want everything, but you didn't fight for anything. It doesn't work like that". Well it does for Trump, doesn't it? The response to this philosophy was to elect a serial bankrupt, liar, and sexual assaulter who has never known a hard days work in his life to the presidency.

That's not intelligent.

If you want to spam youtube videos I suggest actually finding quality videos which give a nuanced and rational appraisal of the view they're offering. At least if you disagree with said videos they offer food for thought. Here:

[video=youtube;YlptgqP_PEA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlptgqP_PEA[/video]
 
Trump wants to expel 3 million of illegal immigrants and mainly drug traffickers, thieves etc ... Where is the problem ? Obama at the end of his mandate will have expelled 3.2 million
 
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LOL why did Trump win ?

Because enough people in America were fed up with the way things were going and wanted a shake up.

I am not American but that still seems obvious.
 
LOL why did Trump win ?

Because enough people in America were fed up with the way things were going and wanted a shake up.

I am not American but that still seems obvious.

Yup, I entirely agree, unfortunately there's "shake up" and then there's "loose cannon", both shake things up.....but the results are vastly different.
That said, none of them were fitting candidates, and it is in my eyes, mind boggling that Trump represented 'the best' from one side, and Hillary for the other..
 
LOL why did Trump win ?

Because enough people in America were fed up with the way things were going and wanted a shake up.

I am not American but that still seems obvious.

Sigh...
Humans.....
My Hand Hurts. So I hack it Off and Replace it with a Bottle of RedBull.....
What a Logic.

If your Fed up with something wrong. Then seriously. Go to the Streets. Complain. Vote the Smaller Parties. But for Heavens Sake. Why make everything even Worse and Vote for Trump ???
Going from Annoying to Unbearable is not going to Improve something....
 
It was the same petulant attitude the UK showed when a lot of people voted UKIP. I'm going to vote for the biggest head going as a protest vote!

Yeah good call. Let's see if you feel the same way in a years time.
 
It was the same petulant attitude the UK showed when a lot of people voted UKIP. I'm going to vote for the biggest head going as a protest vote!

Yeah good call. Let's see if you feel the same way in a years time.

Then again, the system actually is rigged in a way, although not towards any specific party. But at the end of the day many people (of any ethnicity or gender) simply are born in a position that seriously reduces their chances of education, a comfortable life and all that goes with it. I vividly remember when I had to work in a factory for a few months that after every workday there was not a single fiber in my body willing to focus on politics, read economical analyses, check the backgrounds of politicians or any of that stuff. My life for those few months basically consisted of working, followed by sitting on the couch with a beer watching the simpsons. I feel its rather unfair to first put people in a position where they have no extensive formal education to fall back on, then make sure its unreasonable to expect them to spend a signifcant amount of time on politics, finally give them only a limited number of poor candidates to chose from and then insult them for presumably not picking the least yucky candidate.

The worst bit is that the people least able to make informed choices will also always be the ones that get screwed over most. And regardless of the outcome of the elections, I think its a safe bet to say the working class will be screwed over. Again. And people will blame them for it, because 'they had a chance to vote differently'. Its a situation where you lose anyway no matter what you do, and you get blamed for it anyway.

I call that rigged.
 
LOL why did Trump win ?

Because enough people in America were fed up with the way things were going and wanted a shake up.

I am not American but that still seems obvious.

Also because of the bizarre electorial college. Looks like Clinton will finish about 2 million votes ahead.
 
Also because of the bizarre electorial college. Looks like Clinton will finish about 2 million votes ahead.

No offense, but then the democrats should have called that earlier. But leading up to the elections I never heared anyone mention anything about it. The only thing I heared was how great American democracy was and how the republicans should accept their loss like a real man (or woman :p). Now they've lost they cant just flop around and start doing exactly what they accused the republicans of trying to do.
 
No offense, but then the democrats should have called that earlier. But leading up to the elections I never heared anyone mention anything about it. The only thing I heared was how great American democracy was and how the republicans should accept their loss like a real man (or woman :p). Now they've lost they cant just flop around and start doing exactly what they accused the republicans of trying to do.

No, of course it doesn't mean anything about Trump victory. He won by the rules, absolutely. For the future though, those rules should change. Even Trump himself has called the Electorial College a terrible, rigged system. If his term means abolishing it for a straight proportional vote, then some good will come out of this.
 
Also because of the bizarre electorial college. Looks like Clinton will finish about 2 million votes ahead.
I spent several days around here last week defending the electoral college and why we have it. Its a shame your aversion to rugged debate has placed me on ignore a long time ago, and you were unable to read any of it.
 
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