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CMDR_Leonard

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I left the game 3 or 4 months ago because it was tedious and boring. Last Thursday I decided to come back and give it another shot. I started doing passenger missions. I was making enough credits to actually justify the time investment to myself, and last night I ranked up to Duke. So tonight when I got home I bought my Cutter and started doing passenger missions again only to find they're incredibly nerfed. Now the profit per jump is almost on par with trading.

I've been following discussions on other sites, and the consensus is that the Devs at Frontier either hate their player base or allow a vocal minority to police the fun out of the game. Can anyone offer any insight? Why would they take the one fun thing to do (for the sizeable majority of us who do not like fighting) and then nerf it to the extent that it is now pointless? I don't understand, and I would like to.
 
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CMDR_Leonard

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It needs to be in every forum until they fix this. They had resolved a serious problem by instituting an end-game money maker, and then for some unknown and irrational reason they removed the resolution. The Devs need to be made aware that what they did was dumb as hell.

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It shouldn't be balanced. If it's balanced, then adding passenger missions served no purpose. It appeared that they'd resolved a massive issue with the game and instituted an end-game money. Then they removed that, and all they added was essentially trading except you're told where to go and don't have to guess.
 

CMDR_Leonard

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They said they were going to fix it. So right now, you're just proliferating ignorant whining.
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Where was that said? And all of those people doing all of that "ignorant whining" is the reason it is being fixed, if it is being fixed.

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777Driver said:
...could have sworn this is Mardi Gras.
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does that even mean? I lived on the West Bank the entire time I was in law school, and I still have Saints and Pelicans season tickets, so I spend a significant amount of time in New Orleans, and I cannot make heads or tails of what you're trying to say.
 
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777Driver

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CMDR_Leonard said:
Where was that said? And all of those people doing all of that "ignorant whining" is the reason it is being fixed, if it is being fixed.
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In the link I sent you. The devs have been aware of the issue, they don't need cmdrs acting like disapointed 5yr olds on Christmas morning.
 
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CMDR_Leonard

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777Driver said:
In the frikin link I sent you. The devs have been aware of the issue, they don't need cmdrs acting like disapointed 5yr olds on Christmas morning.
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That link is 39 pages long. If they were going to correct it, it would make sense for them to sticky that comment to the top, and I did not see it there. I still want to know what the hell you were talking about Mardi Gras.
 

z993126

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CMDR_Leonard said:
It needs to be in every forum until they fix this. They had resolved a serious problem by instituting an end-game money maker, and then for some unknown and irrational reason they removed the resolution. The Devs need to be made aware that what they did was dumb as hell.

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It shouldn't be balanced. If it's balanced, then adding passenger missions served no purpose. It appeared that they'd resolved a massive issue with the game and instituted an end-game money. Then they removed that, and all they added was essentially trading except you're told where to go and don't have to guess.
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Pray tell, what is this 'end-game' of which you speak, sirrah?
 

777Driver

777Driver
CMDR_Leonard said:
That link is 39 pages long. If they were going to correct it, it would make sense for them to sticky that comment to the top, and I did not see it there. I still want to know what the hell you were talking about Mardi Gras.
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Click on the link, it will take you directly to the devs comment..

Drama queen, mardi gras.. Google it.


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Hi all,

I have been looking at the mission rewards and have located an issue with the the long range expedition missions. It's likely the reason you are seeing lower rewards on those missions. We will try to get that tested and push it live as soon as we can. Apologies for the inconvenience.

As mentioned by the OP this is an ongoing process that we will be monitoring and hopefully continually improving.

Thanks,
Adam.


The fix for the passenger mission issues (I believe I have found the issue that impacts all of them) will not go live when the servers go down I'm sorry to say. The fix needs the appropriate testing time.

Sorry once again and thanks for your patience,
Adam.
 

CMDR Klassic

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777Driver said:
In the link I sent you. The devs have been aware of the issue, they don't need cmdrs acting like disapointed 5yr olds on Christmas morning.
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Man I love people who think they are high and mighty for no reason. Do you act like a child in every instance of someone bringing up valid concerns? How exactly would he know they were aware of the issue? Most people don't wish to sift through pages of crap to find if FDev have taken notice to a certain issue. It's not OP's fault FDev is terrible at communication and balancing. I sense a lot of rage in you, maybe you should read and follow your signature before you pop your top off and reply to this with nothing but poorly worded insults.
 
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Leper Messiah

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Elite isn't my favourite game, in places it's awesome, in others it's the proverbial turd (mainly MMO, MP, PVP stuff (IMO)). But it's clear to me FD do not hate their player base. The issue FD have is trying to appease a fractured player base where different play styles are at odds with each other and each one is given equal footing in the game. If you ask me that's an impossible task for FD to actually please everyone. Coupled with unforeseen issues and bugs, I feel sorry for the people at FD (being a game dev is often an utterly thankless task).
 

Ian Phillips

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Ian Phillips
Everyone - stop with the insults please, calling each other Drama Queens and Idiots isn't good discussion technique :)

@OP You will find that people respond to the tone set in a post/thread. You may find a less antagonistic approach will help get your points across.
 
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777Driver

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CMDR Klassic said:
Man I love people who think they are high and mighty for no reason. Do you act like a child in every instance of someone bringing up valid concerns? How exactly would he know they were aware of the issue? Most people don't wish to sift through pages of crap to find if FDev have taken notice to a certain issue. It's not OP's fault FDev is terrible at communication and balancing. I sense a lot of rage in you, maybe you should read and follow your signature before you pop your top off and reply to this with nothing but poorly worded insults.
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No rage at all, I'm chilling at a pool with a laptop in 28c heat.. Read my first reply, then run along..
 

Perditrix

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CMDR Klassic said:
Man I love people who think they are high and mighty for no reason. Do you act like a child in every instance of someone bringing up valid concerns? How exactly would he know they were aware of the issue? Most people don't wish to sift through pages of crap to find if FDev have taken notice to a certain issue. It's not OP's fault FDev is terrible at communication and balancing. I sense a lot of rage in you, maybe you should read and follow your signature before you pop your top off and reply to this with nothing but poorly worded insults.
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Agree with CMDR Klassic
 
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