So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[The Lawful]

FWIW, in his latest video Obsidian Ant has a summary about the Formidine Rift CG. One sidenote that struck me is that the Formidine Rift mystery & the beacons found "appear to be tied in to meta-driving". How does he come to this conclusion (starting around 9:00) - because of the "exodus papers" and the corresponding Caesar key?

Spoiler

[video=youtube;osv7SNPyWjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv7SNPyWjA[/video]

The video also contains info on lots of changes that are apparently planned for an upcoming beta & patch of 2.2.

[noob]

 

[Jaiotu]

FWIW, in his latest video Obsidian Ant has a summary about the Formidine Rift CG. One sidenote that struck me is that the Formidine Rift mystery & the beacons found "appear to be tied in to meta-driving". How does he come to this conclusion (starting around 9:00) - because of the "exodus papers" and the corresponding Caesar key?

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv7SNPyWjA

The video also contains info on lots of changes that are apparently planned for an upcoming beta & patch of 2.2.

[noob]

There is a definite connection between Salome and Raan Corsen, though hard to prove because only a limited number of players experienced the unfolding events that led Corsen to Alioth and only one Commander was an actual witness to Corsen conversation with an individual believed to have been Salome.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

There is a definite connection between Salome and Raan Corsen, though hard to prove because only a limited number of players experienced the unfolding events that led Corsen to Alioth and only one Commander was an actual witness to Corsen conversation with an individual believed to have been Salome.

Well that would make sense - it would explain the 'new information' that Kahina talked about before her arrest, that is, the link between Formidine, Conflux and Hawking.
However, since that link is a recent implementation by FDev, it seems to me that it actually complicates the investigation of the Rift mystery. How do we identify which thread any new 'clue' is related to?

I'm sticking with mythology, since that's been there from the beginning - you guys can do the breadcrumbs that FDev drop every new patch.

 

[Jaiotu]

Well that would make sense - it would explain the 'new information' that Kahina talked about before her arrest, that is, the link between Formidine, Conflux and Hawking.
However, since that link is a recent implementation by FDev, it seems to me that it actually complicates the investigation of the Rift mystery. How do we identify which thread any new 'clue' is related to?

I'm sticking with mythology, since that's been there from the beginning - you guys can do the breadcrumbs that FDev drop every new patch.

CMDR Ashley Wilkinson of Canonn does a fairly good job of explaining what happened regarding Raan Corsen in episode 127 of Lave Radio: http://laveradio.com/podcasts/laveradio-ep127.mp3

Factually correct though members of the Earth Defense Fleet have a slightly different interpretation of the events that transpired.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Which still makes me think that, based on the woman saying to cross the rift, that when whatever is there to be found is found, it will be in the outer arm.

http://i.imgur.com/XCQgIjQ.png

Her words were (deliberately I suspect by Drew) ambiguous, but I don't think she ever said you had to cross the Rift. She said (at the time) "Don’t tell no one, but I got as far as the Formidine Rift, not many folks can say that! No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale"

And her travels (here I think within the Rift is implied) were:
“Quiet for the most part, until …’
‘Until what?’
‘Let’s just say there was some serious out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe. No really – no one believed me, said it was all a fabrication. I had no proof you see and they edited my memory afterwards.”

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Found this 1000 Lyrs from Conflux zone:

http://i.imgur.com/4xf8lyJ.jpg

Don't think I've noticed a planet description have "indigenous life" before, but memory is not good

 

[NuGundam]

Thats normal for an Earthlike.

 

[Jaiotu]

Her words were (deliberately I suspect by Drew) ambiguous, but I don't think she ever said you had to cross the Rift. She said (at the time) "Don’t tell no one, but I got as far as the Formidine Rift, not many folks can say that! No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale"

And her travels (here I think within the Rift is implied) were:
“Quiet for the most part, until …’
‘Until what?’
‘Let’s just say there was some serious out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe. No really – no one believed me, said it was all a fabrication. I had no proof you see and they edited my memory afterwards.”

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Don't think I've noticed a planet description have "indigenous life" before, but memory is not good

Remember: That quote saying no one had been to the Rift and returned to tell the tale was AFTER she had her memory edited. At the end of the book, in the epilogue, her younger self says, "Once you reach the rift you’re going to have to plot a way across."

So, yes, she does say that you have to cross the Rift.

 

[Zeeman]

Her words were (deliberately I suspect by Drew) ambiguous, but I don't think she ever said you had to cross the Rift. She said (at the time) "Don’t tell no one, but I got as far as the Formidine Rift, not many folks can say that! No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale"

And her travels (here I think within the Rift is implied) were:
“Quiet for the most part, until …’
‘Until what?’
‘Let’s just say there was some serious out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe. No really – no one believed me, said it was all a fabrication. I had no proof you see and they edited my memory afterwards.”



Don't think I've noticed a planet description have "indigenous life" before, but memory is not good

That is the standard ELW description.

z...

 

[flagoworld]

What is more amazing for me is the complete absence of craters on the surfaces of all the icy planets in Elite.

I think that makes some kind of sense. When a meteor hits it would cause the ice around the impact point to melt, at which point it will fill in the crater before freezing again.

 

[flagoworld]

So, if the Rift starts at 10kLYs, just past the H&S, maybe we should slow things down and start exploring the way the ol' G did? Start at that H&S and plot a way across, choosing a route whose jump requirements are 27LYs or less. We don't know her exact route, but at least mimicking her methodology might bring us a little closer to experiencing what she did.

Maybe if we all start at one of the 4 beacons and make <=27LY jumps from there.

 

[frostypaw]

FWIW, in his latest video Obsidian Ant has a summary about the Formidine Rift CG. One sidenote that struck me is that the Formidine Rift mystery & the beacons found "appear to be tied in to meta-driving". How does he come to this conclusion (starting around 9:00) - because of the "exodus papers" and the corresponding Caesar key?

he just keeps talking, it often doesn't actually add up.

My personal opinion is that I over estimated the width of the Rift - estimating it stretched beyond the Syroifoe Oasis to the far 'northwest' as we originally thought Bovomit was part of the mystery. But its now becoming apparent that its a more localized area - most likely with the Heart and Soul nebulae acting as a 'gateway' to the Rift.

I've long questioned any Rift map that's stretched it as far as Bovomit. It's too screamingly obvious and doesn't fit with the "already in game" aspect of the puzzle. The bit that keeps striking me is that the COR patrol points form a line whose midpoint is well below the galactic plane and I suspect we've not searched low enough.

In the rather meta-game of trying to infer what a human puzzle-maker would consider less likely to be found putting things under the galactic plane is a winner. Almost all the search efforts concentrated on the tangible rift in the plane itself - I still have strong thoughts that we have to cross the rift then go down until the galaxy just hangs there above us.
I didn't find such a route myself when I was out there, my focus was almost entirely on sneaking into the back of the rift and getting above it to align nebulae to various tinfoil.

ps. all this was done in an asp fitted to limit at 27lys... it was just a hindrance until reaching the Wall, but you can get around it with that range and no boosts on the right hand side

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

Remember: That quote saying no one had been to the Rift and returned to tell the tale was AFTER she had her memory edited. At the end of the book, in the epilogue, her younger self says, "Once you reach the rift you’re going to have to plot a way across."

So, yes, she does say that you have to cross the Rift.

Not necessarily, this could also mean only a direction, in which we should continue the search. "You have to plot across" and "You have to cross" is not the same.

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

For those of you who don't follow Drew on Twitter, he recently posted this in reply to a question about the Rift -

(referring to the 'rift' map)




so the suggestion mooted before that the H&S and EAFOTS regions are on the edge of the Rift are 'broadly speaking' correct. As you move out from the EAFOTS beacon, the stars start to thin out, and if you keep going you hit that inter-arm space that has been tagged, flagged and constantly referred to as 'the Formidine Rift'.

It can't really be anywhere else. The RR line points at it - the H&S nebulae are like gateposts, the stars thin out, it starts in EAFOTS, it's between Cassiopeia, Camelopardis and Perseus, it's where the EAFOTS beacons are...

Now go up/down 2.5-3k ly and this is what you see.
[video=youtube;jVBSTpCVQnU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVBSTpCVQnU[/video]

Suddenly the "galaxy is just hanging there in space", difficult to traverse and in the same area as the rest of the Rift. Or as my flying instructor used to say... "think vertically!"

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Now go up/down 2.5-3k ly and this is what you see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVBSTpCVQnU

Suddenly the "galaxy is just hanging there in space", difficult to traverse and in the same area as the rest of the Rift. Or as my flying instructor used to say... "think vertically!"

Gotta be down then - when I look at that I see the 'whole galaxy just LYING there'

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Gotta be down then - when I look at that I see the 'whole galaxy just LYING there'

Perhaps. Factor in the distance and it's 10kly.

 

[Zeeman]

I'm normally a "below the plane" person, the focused most of my efforts around the plane last time (against my better judgement). I'll be going down, down, down this time...

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ps. all this was done in an asp fitted to limit at 27lys... it was just a hindrance until reaching the Wall, but you can get around it with that range and no boosts on the right hand side

Handy hint - fit cargo racks, as many as you can.

The cargo slider can then be used to limit your jump range on the galaxy map - that way you at least have better jump range to get to the rift...

Z...

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I think both comments apply equally.
The failure to find frogs in France is why people are fixating on the IoW.

Ah, but has anybody checked out Spitbank Fort?

 

[frostypaw]

Handy hint - fit cargo racks, as many as you can.

The cargo slider can then be used to limit your jump range on the galaxy map - that way you at least have better jump range to get to the rift...

Z...

Sure sure now you tell me after I spent weeks with buttclenchingly low fuel levels so I had my range back on the other side. Every single jump Warning Fuel Low argh - almost ran utterly dry when I got back out as I'd just stopped hearing it!

You live and learn eh!

I flew all the way out well below the plane but just kinda forgot about it after some serious claustrophobia trying to pick a way across to the left of the Heisenberg Bridge. Once I'm back on the horse I might loop around from that side again to tick off a few ling things I didn't follow up but if someone could beat me to it and save me the lys that'd be just grand too

ps. seriously? the word for a worry that continues to itch at you starting with N gets censored? touchy today mr forums

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Remember: That quote saying no one had been to the Rift and returned to tell the tale was AFTER she had her memory edited. At the end of the book, in the epilogue, her younger self says, "Once you reach the rift you’re going to have to plot a way across."

So, yes, she does say that you have to cross the Rift.

Ah, but as a native Englishman "you’re going to have to plot a way across" *doesn't* mean you then have to fully cross the Rift; it implies you go part way into the Rift along your plotted course, which is then consistent with the rest of her words, and also the rest of the clues; to my mind whatever 'it' is it *has* to be in Eafots

 

[clavain]

Ah, but as a native Englishman "you’re going to have to plot a way across" *doesn't* mean you then have to fully cross the Rift; it implies you go part way into the Rift along your plotted course, which is then consistent with the rest of her words, and also the rest of the clues; to my mind whatever 'it' is it *has* to be in Eafots

[cough] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/across