You can't fly there, you can't land near it, you can't drive to it.
Basically, the entire section of the planet is a no fly/drive zone
So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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You can't fly there, you can't land near it, you can't drive to it.
Basically, the entire section of the planet is a no fly/drive zone
Unfortunate. Well, it seems to be an unusual coincidence that this particular planet should be bugged out. Quite likely something is there.
dynamicbob
Banned
so thats where the aliens are ?
Thanks for that. I can't rep you more so that's all I can really do
There may be very valid reasons why Frontier omitted Cas A and Tycho's Star. I am grateful that they've allowed me to make a comment on the omission via Galnet and I hope that, once the data has been presented, Frontier will acknowledge the omission one way or another. I see four possible scenarios:
1. Cas A and Tycho G truly are missing! Some unknown force is devouring the energy and matter from supernovas (possibly even causing them!) and their omission is related to the Rift mystery after all.
2. Due to the temperature of the supernova ejecta Universal Cartographics, working with the Pilots Federation, has obscured their location as a safety precaution to prevent hapless adventurers from stumbling on them and certain death.
3. For some reason Frontier simply didn't enter them into the galaxy. Maybe they are too anomalous? Frontier can recognize that one of our "candidate systems" just MIGHT be Cas A or Tycho G without having to confirm it 100% but giving us enough detail to know if their omission is part of the Rift mystery or not.
4. Frontier continues to ignore this and we spend the next 8 years wondering if the omission is relevant or not.
One of the big motivators of the Cassiopeia Project has been to either confirm that the missing supernova remnants are a part of the mystery or not. Bug reports weren't getting anywhere so we decided to treat the omission as an opportunity for expanded game play. Those of us who participated in the search greatly enjoyed it and I hope that Frontier sees what we've done and expands on this kind of game play. It's less of a riddle and more of a search using known real world scientific data and trying to overlay that over the Elite galaxy.
My hope is that the effort gets enough attention to either confirm that the omission is part of the Formidine Rift mystery or not. If we've accomplished that then I will be 100% satisfied. And if we don't get that confirmation? Then the journey was it's own reward. I've always been kind of a science nerd but this little adventure has taught me so much about the universe that I didn't know before. Good stuff. I think that it would be absolutely bonkers if Frontier omitted them from the game but Stellar Forge was still awesome enough to deliver close analogs of the objects we went looking for
It may be a placeholder for the CG reward - perhaps a new engineer?
Thanks for that. I can't rep you more so that's all I can really do
There may be very valid reasons why Frontier omitted Cas A and Tycho's Star. I am grateful that they've allowed me to make a comment on the omission via Galnet and I hope that, once the data has been presented, Frontier will acknowledge the omission one way or another. I see four possible scenarios:
1. Cas A and Tycho G truly are missing! Some unknown force is devouring the energy and matter from supernovas (possibly even causing them!) and their omission is related to the Rift mystery after all.
2. Due to the temperature of the supernova ejecta Universal Cartographics, working with the Pilots Federation, has obscured their location as a safety precaution to prevent hapless adventurers from stumbling on them and certain death.
3. For some reason Frontier simply didn't enter them into the galaxy. Maybe they are too anomalous? Frontier can recognize that one of our "candidate systems" just MIGHT be Cas A or Tycho G without having to confirm it 100% but giving us enough detail to know if their omission is part of the Rift mystery or not.
4. Frontier continues to ignore this and we spend the next 8 years wondering if the omission is relevant or not.
One of the big motivators of the Cassiopeia Project has been to either confirm that the missing supernova remnants are a part of the mystery or not. Bug reports weren't getting anywhere so we decided to treat the omission as an opportunity for expanded game play. Those of us who participated in the search greatly enjoyed it and I hope that Frontier sees what we've done and expands on this kind of game play. It's less of a riddle and more of a search using known real world scientific data and trying to overlay that over the Elite galaxy.
My hope is that the effort gets enough attention to either confirm that the omission is part of the Formidine Rift mystery or not. If we've accomplished that then I will be 100% satisfied. And if we don't get that confirmation? Then the journey was it's own reward. I've always been kind of a science nerd but this little adventure has taught me so much about the universe that I didn't know before. Good stuff. I think that it would be absolutely bonkers if Frontier omitted them from the game but Stellar Forge was still awesome enough to deliver close analogs of the objects we went looking for
Your (2) doesn't seem credible since supernovae produce black holes & neutron stars, & there are many of both already in the galmap. What you haven't mentioned is the possibility of Dyson Spheres masking them, which would IMHO be a good solution to the FR mystery.
PS- for those experienced programmers amongst us did the mystery of Soul nebula (or was it Heart neb?) disappearing from some positions get an explanation that was convincing? I'm no programmer but that did seem to answer several of Drew's clues.
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dynamicbob
Banned
Not far that out, my bet is on a lost colony of sorts or some sort of structural construction. The alien storylines have stalled for now i think at least for a few days
This is of extreme importance! I am the High Priestess of the Order of Enblackenment, a religious order founded when many of us experienced the Voice of the Void at the edge of the galaxy during the Distant Worlds Expedition. We regularly commune with the Void by travelling as far away from other stars as possible to minimise interference of the stars that seek to corrupt the Truth of the Void.
We believe that all visible matter is an accident and therefore seek to hasten the heat-death of the universe. We understand that these are lofty goals and that we are mere mortals who are separated from the Void due to being born as matter. So our humble goal is to destroy every star and planet in our own little galaxy. If there is an unknown force eating up the matter of supernova, then perhaps it can be harnessed to consume stars.
Praise the Void!
These are interesting thoughts! (+Rep)
I experienced the dissapearing nebula by myself out in the rift a while ago.
(Too bad I can't remember where exactly - must have been somewhere in the area of the Heisenberg Crossing)
I thought back then that one of the nebulae might have obscured the other - but that's simply impossible from the location of the Rift...
Regarding the "Core" problem... Core, or Kore, is the other name of Persephone. Persephone was kidnapped. She escaped, but she has to "disappear" periodically and visit his kidnapper. In some days I will write here about my whereabouts. I'm back at the bubble. I don't know for how long...
Masheikh Scytale
Banned
I don't know if it is feasible, but it could be interesting to reference at least one of the "off limits" boundary coordinates, land as close as possible and try to cross there in debug mode.. may show something ..
Thanks. Just smells like the original barnacles problem all over again to me this, it seems way too much of a coincidence that there just happens to be a huge zone on a planet out in the area of interest that gives crashes, probably as it would be loading in the more detailed view for an approaching commander.
Very surprised that FDev haven't responded to either the comments about it in this thread or the bug report.
Yeah. I know they're busy but it's actually a fairly large investment in player time just to *get there*. Given that we are clutching at straws it would be nice to know if the straw exists or if its the product of too much solitude, beer and living in underpants.
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On my way to the Rift, riding along the RR line, right before reaching IC 1805, the Heart nebula disappeared on me. The first picture shows where the nebula should have been and the second picture shows how it disappeared. I was nowhere near any of the areas where it was previously reported missing (if I remember correctly that would be the CHI PERSEI area?). The third picture shows the back of the Soul nebula when heading back to the bubble (as viewed from EAFOTS). Weird horizontal lines and some kind of a blob to the right of those lines. Just some odd things I thought I would report.
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As far as I can remember disapppearing heart was confirmed as a bug when reported back around August.
There's a giant canyon range you can see in the pictures of the CTD region. You can't get anywhere close to that.
That's what I mean when I mention the CHI PERSEI area. And how can this still only be a bug more than a year later after it was first reported???
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/121041-Heart-Nebula-Missing
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There are more than one kind of supernova. Cassiopeia A represents a type IIb supernova which does result in a collapse to either a neutron star or black hole. The expansion shell of debris has a temperature of over 27 million degrees Celsius. I'm not sure what temperature our ships can handle but I think it is safe to say that we'd be baked pretty quick if we encountered that.
Tycho's Star was a type Ia supernova so there is no remnant neutron star or black hole. The white dwarf at the heart of the explosion was completely obliterated and it's entire mass and energy was ejected into space. This type of star is fed by a companion star and that is what we went looking for: Tycho G, the surviving class G2 progenitor star. The temperature of the expansion shell on this one is only 10 million degrees Celsius.
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Finding a Dyson sphere around a star isn't the SOLUTION to the FR mystery - it would just raise a whole lot more questions.
Who put it there?
Why did they do it?
When did they do it?
Are there others?
Why are the Powers so concerned about covering it up?
Discovering a 'thing' in the Rift is only the start of the puzzle!
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Hey, I'm new to all this but I'm on my way out there on a passenger mission and I'm intrigued
Just tell me... is the rift the squiggly white thing which is getting bigger as I head out towards the edge of the Galaxy
and
Is there a station out there anywhere because a repair/restock is gonna help a lot
Thanks
Just tell me... is the rift the squiggly white thing which is getting bigger as I head out towards the edge of the Galaxy
and
Is there a station out there anywhere because a repair/restock is gonna help a lot
Thanks