The £5 note must be banished in the UK ? ---- https://www.theguardian.com/busines...gland-urged-to-make-new-5-note-vegan-friendly ----- https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-en...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
General / Off-Topic The new £5 notes contain animal fat in the form of tallow.
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I can't see the post, but vegetarians may be pleased to know that they can eat the new Scottish £5 notes.
This just in - turns out they can't after all.
This just in - turns out they can't after all.
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I think you are all being a little insensitive to our pointy eared friends, have some respect you aliens!
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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/a-ve...ny-cows-are-being-murdered-for-the-new-fivers
Much as I see the annoyance, and its parallels with using pig/cow fat on bullets in India, it's pretty small in the scheme of things. There are so many worse animal abuses that people could be up in arms about!
Much as I see the annoyance, and its parallels with using pig/cow fat on bullets in India, it's pretty small in the scheme of things. There are so many worse animal abuses that people could be up in arms about!
people are narked off with this yet say sod all about Halal slaughter....my mind truly boggles.
tallow is probably used in the plastic granules as a lubricant in the production process (it is apparently sometimes used in steel sheet rolling, and i imagine rolling a plastic sheet probably requires some lubricant to stop the plastic sticking to the rollers).
the ammounts are trace, although I don't know what level that is it's probably less than 1% and probably as a surface contaminant not as part of the material.
if you are worried about this, reflect on the fact the use of tallow in many plastic and plastic film products is probably common place so you'd better start avoid plastic......
the ammounts are trace, although I don't know what level that is it's probably less than 1% and probably as a surface contaminant not as part of the material.
if you are worried about this, reflect on the fact the use of tallow in many plastic and plastic film products is probably common place so you'd better start avoid plastic......
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..and plastic is made of oil. Oil being made of long dead and rotted (and cooked) plant and animal matter. WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE DINOSAURS?
I was a vegatarian for a few years.
There'd be times where someone would offer me something with meat in it, then realise and profusely apologise like they'd really offended me or something.
I'd be like why are you apologising.
Can't help feeling a lot of this "offense" is people being upset either for the sake of it, or "on behalf of" others.
People like to get upset don't they.
There'd be times where someone would offer me something with meat in it, then realise and profusely apologise like they'd really offended me or something.
I'd be like why are you apologising.
Can't help feeling a lot of this "offense" is people being upset either for the sake of it, or "on behalf of" others.
People like to get upset don't they.
Could be worse. My Mom keeps offering me things with shrimp in it. I'm allergic. I think she's trying to kill me. :O
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Yaffle
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-38184599
Blimey.
It makes no comment on how they deal with any food that arrives in plastic bags (also have tallow) nor how they get home after work (tyres too, well bike ones).
I've been trying to find out if tallow is used in the manufacture of debit/credit cards too, which would scupper their 'pay by card to save the cow' idea.
Blimey.
It makes no comment on how they deal with any food that arrives in plastic bags (also have tallow) nor how they get home after work (tyres too, well bike ones).
I've been trying to find out if tallow is used in the manufacture of debit/credit cards too, which would scupper their 'pay by card to save the cow' idea.
presumably nobody wearing leather shoes, belts, coats or using a leather bag or wallet is allowed in?
so presumably I could offer them my payment in fivers, and when they refuse walk out with a free meal......?
edit: done some research, it might be acceptable is the hop (as it does) makes it clear that they won't accept the fiver in advance. in the same way that some places can refuse to accept large notes or vending machines may only accept certain coins or notes.
still a daft stance given the other sources of animal products
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This nonsense on the £5 note really peeves me off. Trace amounts of animal fat is a no-no, but dead animals being used in the process that becomes oil, and then plastic, THAT is ok.
AND ... don't get me started on vegetarians who take moral stands like this being absolute hypocrites. They kick off about animals being killed for consumption & use by humans, yet say nothing about plants being killed for consumption & use by humans.
I would take every single person who signed that stupid petition, to a remote desert island (it'd be Isla Sorna if Jurassic Park was real) and leave them there.
AND ... don't get me started on vegetarians who take moral stands like this being absolute hypocrites. They kick off about animals being killed for consumption & use by humans, yet say nothing about plants being killed for consumption & use by humans.
I would take every single person who signed that stupid petition, to a remote desert island (it'd be Isla Sorna if Jurassic Park was real) and leave them there.
I think the difference might be that animals have brains and are capable of individual thought and even a range of emotions. Unlike plants...
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My personal stance on the matter is that if you're going to kill an animal you should try and make as much use from its parts as possible and I say that as someone who's been a vegetarian for 27 years.
The question though, does tallow have to be used if there is a synthetic product that can be used in its place? If so, why is it not?
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I thought refusing a service on account of beliefs was a no no, wasn't there a Christian B&B sued by a couple of Gay blokes recently because they refused them on the grounds of their beleifs?Or was it a cake shop and a gay wedding cake? something along those lines anyway.
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Both of those happened. Personally I feel people should be allowed to turn away custom if it offends their beliefs or ideals.
Anyway, it's a vegetarian café catering for a minority in the first place, the whole point of things like your examples is that they try to give minorities the same freedoms as the majority so I'm not sure that what you're getting at really applies.
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