T.1600 Owners.. How are you Yawing?

[hookandsling]

I've always had yaw bound to the Hat.. and it's always sucked. Left a bit.. no right a bit.. no left a bit.. etc.

I have tried putting on the Z axis (twist) but that's even worse.
I've recently tried the different 'Yaw into Roll' options but haven't gotten on with them so far.

Just wondered what others with the same joystick have done?

(btw I can't have a HOTAS because I'm left handed - but that's another rant).

 

[DukeIronHand]

Interesting.
I have a T16000.M and yaw to the Z-axis works great.
As an aside I use the Hat for thrusters which also works well.

 

[LoSt]

I've always had yaw bound to the Hat.. and it's always sucked. Left a bit.. no right a bit.. no left a bit.. etc.

I have tried putting on the Z axis (twist) but that's even worse.
I've recently tried the different 'Yaw into Roll' options but haven't gotten on with them so far.

Just wondered what others with the same joystick have done?

(btw I can't have a HOTAS because I'm left handed - but that's another rant).

Have you tried a dual stick 16000M setup? That's what I'm using and love it. It also addresses that weird lefthandedness issue you have

But to answer your question, with the dual setup, I have Yaw on the X axis of one of the sticks.

 

[[VR] Enexemander]

I've always had yaw bound to the Hat.. and it's always sucked. Left a bit.. no right a bit.. no left a bit.. etc.

I have tried putting on the Z axis (twist) but that's even worse.
I've recently tried the different 'Yaw into Roll' options but haven't gotten on with them so far.

Just wondered what others with the same joystick have done?

(btw I can't have a HOTAS because I'm left handed - but that's another rant).

I use the twist. But the twist sensor is no where near the same level of performance as the x and y axis (heart technology or whatever). Also, the twist doesn't return to center perfectly from the left side, so it's a bit of a bummer there, as well. I use the T.A.R.G.E.T. software to set up an S curve for the twist. I fly with FA: OFF most of the time so I want the initial yaw input to be small. It sucks using fixed weapons with FA: OFF and having your yaw go crazy when you twist just a touch too much.

Frankly, I'm considering taking Yaw off the stick completely. Maybe some pedals or the rocker on the T16000m's new throttle (that I might be getting soon) would work better.

 

[TKensington]

Interesting.
I have a T16000.M and yaw to the Z-axis works great.
As an aside I use the Hat for thrusters which also works well.

Me too, dual T16000Ms and I yaw with Z on the right and up/down thrust with the z on the left. Works perfectly.

 

[TheCandyMan666]

Interesting.
I have a T16000.M and yaw to the Z-axis works great.
As an aside I use the Hat for thrusters which also works well.

Exactly my setup too.
Works pretty good for me.

 

[hookandsling]

Thanks for the answers chaps

I guess unless I go the two stick route (desk space is an issue) using Z (twist) has got to be better than hat. Just gotta get used to it...

Interesting about the twist sensors - glad it's not just me - I'm using TARGET now too so we'll see how we go.

 

[Connor Caple]

I have Saitek Pedals. Used them in flight/space games for about 10 years now and they feel pretty natural.

Thrustmaster do make a set for the T16000, seen them in a box set. Thrustmaster TFRP Flight Rudder Pedals

 

[CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI]

I'm completly lefthanded but I'm going with the Warthog, using it right handed.

It's weird to have the left hand do almost nothing except control thrust etc., but you can get used to use the stick efficiently with your right hand. It's not superfine movement like writing, and to aim you use binocular vision in elite so it doesn't matter to have the joystick aligned with your good eye. BTW if you are already used to operate the mouse with the right it really makes no difference.

Regarding Yaw, I had it assigned to a hat switch, but it's suboptimal for sure. I've ordered pedals and will practice some more coordination soon

 

[Andovar]

Thrustmaster do make a set for the T16000, seen them in a box set. Thrustmaster TFRP Flight Rudder Pedals

http://nerdtechy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Thrustmaster-TFRP-Flight-Rudder-Pedals-1.jpg

That's what I'm using.
Very precise. The only downside is that the pedals are too close together and feel a bit cramped.

 

[Connor Caple]

That's what I'm using.
Very precise. The only downside is that the pedals are too close together and feel a bit cramped.

I've used the Saiteks for years and they are well spaced.

 

[askavir]

Arrived at this thread thinking that FD announced a new Lakon ship, the T-1600, left disappointed...

 

[MottiKhan]

I have mine on the Z axis. Yes, like others, mine has started sticking and not re-centering fully. It's happening in pitch as well. I tried taking it apart and lubing it, but it still sticks.

I use the basic driver and have small dead zones in the ED profile to compensate for it.

 

[Iain L]

Twist yaw works fine for me. But only after I turned all that "yaw into roll" nonsense off.

I've got driving pedals (and indeed a wheel) and keep meaning to map them to forward/reverse thrust, but still haven't got around to it.

 

[Weps]

The Z-axis on my T-16000M works perfectly since two years, without it I'd probably switch back to M+KB since it offers better aiming anyway. And I've abused my joystick in combat zones, the spring is busted and the stick no longer centers no matter how much lube I use.

 

[GunnerBill]

Z-axis, started on a TFlight and never looked back. Great bit of kit

 

[GTwannabe]

Stick twist... yaw on most ships is beyond terrible anyway.

 

[Pro Cambarus]

It's on the X axis and roll is on the Z axis, like in every space simulations I used. Horizontal and vertical thrusters are bound to the HAT switch but I'll probably acquire the new T 16000 TWCS Throttle to try the mini joystick for a continuous range for thruster values instead of the on-off control only.