Percentages for Superpower Reputation Levels?

[RadiKyle]

Hi, haven't been able to find this info anywhere... What are the percentages for each reputation level with the 3 major powers? And what are the "stable" levels at which reputation will not naturally decay? Basically I'm trying to complete this:

Neutral -> Cordial: X%
Cordial -> Friendly: Y%
Friendly -> Allied: Z% UPDATE: confirmed Z=90%
Allied -> OMGBFFs!!

So far I know 75% is a stable point for Friendly as that's where my rep's been sitting with Fed and Emp, and I just went from Cordial to Friendly with the Alliance somewhere between 33% and 48%.

Thanks!

 

[Klab]

100% will get you to allied status, from there if you do nothing it will slowly decay a few percent each day until you hit friendly at 75%. This is the lowest level your rank will decay to naturally. You can get it lower by killing their ships, but otherwise it will stabilize at 75%.

 

[Jmanis]

100% will get you to allied status, from there if you do nothing it will slowly decay a few percent each day until you hit friendly at 75%. This is the lowest level your rank will decay to naturally. You can get it lower by killing their ships, but otherwise it will stabilize at 75%.

I was under the impression it was meant to decay to Friendly, just under allied though?

(noting 80% is still Friendly, but I think it's 85% or something for Allied)

 

[RadiKyle]

I was under the impression it was meant to decay to Friendly, just under allied though?

(noting 80% is still Friendly, but I think it's 85% or something for Allied)

Yeah it doesn't make sense Allied would be 100%, as the natural rep decay would guarantee that you'd never be allied (for more than a few minutes).

So nobody has the exact percentages?

 

[Kingston@#]

I was allied to feds, but due to me having to rep with another faction my fed rep has decayed to friendly. it actually changed to friendly at 90%

 

[Faded Glory]

I was allied to feds, but due to me having to rep with another faction my fed rep has decayed to friendly. it actually changed to friendly at 90%

Allied is around 82% or thereabouts, obviously up to 100%.

Superpower reputation will decay through inactivity back down to a minimum of 75%, which is relatively high Friendly status, it never decays below that, but it does decay relatively quickly when you log off, or stop playing within a certain superpower by a few percentage points each time.

Sometimes the actual percentage figure and rank displayed are not aligned with what it actually is, as I've also seen my reputation increase from friendly to allied (got the inbox message), but it still showed as Friendly in the HUD.

 

[jacozilla]

100% will get you to allied status, from there if you do nothing it will slowly decay a few percent each day until you hit friendly at 75%. This is the lowest level your rank will decay to naturally. You can get it lower by killing their ships, but otherwise it will stabilize at 75%.

I just did this few days ago as I grind Empire ranks. Had not done it since earning Clipper (Baron) rank so my Empire rep had decayed to 75% stable status - the lowest it can go to stay Friendly.

Regaining Allied status happened at exactly 90%.

If you differ in this, fine by me. I'm just saying for me, with the Empire, on this play session, I stayed Friendly all the way to 89%, and only turned Allied at 90%. I'm now at max 100% while still grinding more levels for Duke (Cutter qualification)

 

[RadiKyle]

Regaining Allied status happened at exactly 90%.

Awesome, thanks!

What's the number for Cordial -> Friendly? And is there a stable resting place lower than 75%?

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I was allied to feds, but due to me having to rep with another faction my fed rep has decayed to friendly. it actually changed to friendly at 90%

Cool thanks!

My understanding is rep with one major power will not affect rep with the other. The only thing that hurts rep with another major power is direct action against them (attacking them, etc.). So your Fed rep decay was just the natural decay the devs programmed in if you don't continually do things for that major power.

 

[jacozilla]

Awesome, thanks!

What's the number for Cordial -> Friendly? And is there a stable resting place lower than 75%?

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Cool thanks!

My understanding is rep with one major power will not affect rep with the other. The only thing that hurts rep with another major power is direct action against them (attacking them, etc.). So your Fed rep decay was just the natural decay the devs programmed in if you don't continually do things for that major power.

Don't recall Cordial -> Friendly or other ranks below Friendly -> Allied. All my main 3 superpowers are at 75+ and been so long that way don't recall lower number tiers.

There are only (2) stable resting places - Friendly and Unfriendly. You either go down to Friendly 75% if you were higher than that, or you go up/down to Unfriendly if you were lower than 75% Friendly.

e.g. if you were at 74%, just below Friendly, you can actually decay all the way down to Unfriendly. On other hand, as FD intended, if you did really bad things and had rock bottom hated status, you can eventually anti-decay upwards to reach Unfriendly. FD says the max decay time to reach either extreme ends are ~20 days.

Small quote portion of main bullets to decay mechanism:

•Major faction slowly decays over time to just inside friendly/unfriendly boundaries if above/below them.
•This decay takes at most (if you're right at the extremes of reputation) around 20 days.
•This decay only occurs when you are offline.

Source: by Sandro at this original dev post here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/149489-Reputation-decay

**Note!! - I edited the first bullet to reflect current reality. Don't say I changed it without reading the full dev post. Initially when rep decay was implemented, both Major and Minor factions decayed. FD then made a change, which Sandro noted in the dev post I linked, that only Major factions would decay.

 

[RadiKyle]

e.g. if you were at 74%, just below Friendly, you can actually decay all the way down to Unfriendly.

I think it would just go to Neutral, wouldn't it? Doing nothing with major powers shouldn't make them Unfriendly.

What is the percent for a new account? 0%? So Unfriendly is negative %? (Wish I had a burner account to test.)

 

[jacozilla]

I think it would just go to Neutral, wouldn't it? Doing nothing with major powers shouldn't make them Unfriendly.

What is the percent for a new account? 0%? So Unfriendly is negative %? (Wish I had a burner account to test.)

That's what I would want, and agree with you should make sense. But lot of things FD does makes no sense.

With caveat I've never tested it, the dev post seems pretty clear, there are only two stable resting points - you will decay to one of the them -> friendly 75% and unfriendly (not sure of number but I vague recall it being low positive value).

You decay to friendly if you were above 75%, and decay towards unfriendly from either direction (from 74 down or from some hated negative rep upwards). The FD post was fairly explicit in rationale why it decays upwards (to provide recovery from most hated status over natural course of time. The reason for decay down wasn't so clear)

So not disagreeing that if you're at 74%, it seems weird to decay all the way down to unfriendly, but that is the current stated mechanic (again with caveat ive never experienced it as I'm perma repped 75% or higher with the big3.

 

[RadiKyle]

I'm not reading the dev post the same way I guess. Yes they mention decay but I'm not seeing it specifically say it keeps going past neutral. It would be unstable if it did and rep would oscillate. Also I've never seen my low rep with the Alliance drop to Unfriendly in the year or more it was very low. It always stayed Neutral. I only wish I could remember the percent tho as that's what I'm looking for.

 

[Kingston@#]

My understanding is rep with one major power will not affect rep with the other. The only thing that hurts rep with another major power is direct action against them (attacking them, etc.). So your Fed rep decay was just the natural decay the devs programmed in if you don't continually do things for that major power.

I donated 1,000,000cr and jumped from 82% to 100% with the feds. wishing rep was as fast at increasing with the empire. seems to be 2 data or cargo drops for 1% rep increase. less than 50ly

 

[jacozilla]

I'm not reading the dev post the same way I guess. Yes they mention decay but I'm not seeing it specifically say it keeps going past neutral. It would be unstable if it did and rep would oscillate. Also I've never seen my low rep with the Alliance drop to Unfriendly in the year or more it was very low. It always stayed Neutral. I only wish I could remember the percent tho as that's what I'm looking for.

You could be entirely right. Like I said, never tested or experienced it. Since I don't powerplay or do anything active to attack big3 faction ships, I've been at 75+ forever since earning that rep.

Reason why I think / thought rep decays down to unfriendly is because I guess I'm being a math geek and just went with what dev posted as face value.

-there are only two stable points where decay stops - friendly and unfriendly - otherwise decay happens as he mentioned specifically from either extreme to one of the two stable points, over ~20 days was the estimate of you were at either end of the extreme min/max

-decay can go both down and up, with examples given by dev of both

-he did not specifically mention if decay can take you down from 74% or some value just under Friendly, down to the next stable point at unfriendly, so I freely admit I assume this. But reason I do is if a system is said to only have two points which decay does not go past (from either direction), and of decay have happen in both positive and negative values, then it seems logical a 74 rep drops till it hits the stable point.

Perhaps FD put in another stable point at neutral. That would allow for upward gain to recover from really bad rep towards unfriendly, but prevent players sliding from almost friendly down to unfriendly, and just stop at neutral. The dev post I linked is pretty old, maybe they added a neutral stable point