rootsrat
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How many time do I have to repeat this:
IT'S ABOUT THE CONTEXT, there is no clear definition of bullying in a game especially name Elite Dangerous.
Please report harassment and bullying in game - it's AGAINST the EULA
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How many time do I have to repeat this:
IT'S ABOUT THE CONTEXT, there is no clear definition of bullying in a game especially name Elite Dangerous.
In the context of MMOs (and developer controlled server facilitated games), the developer ultimately carries a legal responsibility to police any behaviours that could be construed as harassment/bullying.
Yes and no - the crux of the OP is not to combat log for reasons of feeling harassed/bullied and report such incidents instead - other reasons (whether justified or not) for Combat Logging are not covered by the OP. Combat Logging in itself is a breach of the EULA but I think before players start reporting other players for Combat Logging they should perhaps consider if their behaviours could have been construed as harassment or bullying.
Before I start here , I play in open, any player wants to kill me or say hi, fine by me the risk I run being in open all the time
However blockades by whatever faction are not "borderline harassment/bullying", if the blockaders state to any pilot that the system is under blockade, then its the risk that pilot runs of being shot down for trying to run the blockade.
Thats the real deal with blockades.. make sure you tell your victims what is going on and its their choice to carry on or hi-wake out
Just yanking people out of the super cruise and shooting them , especially when its the same people all the time without explaination can be "borderline harassment/bullying", but at a CG... anything generally goes... its a big lawless galaxy out there sometimes, and if you really want to do that federal CG with 30 mad imperials roaming about... wing up and have some fun (and if you cant face the rebuy.... always solo/PG mode)
Bill
"Telling blockaders you dont speak english is always good for a laugh
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Fair enough, I feel too that the constant PVE vs PVP and Open vs Solo threads are not good for the game or this forum..
My comment although not entirely tongue in cheek, was not intended to offend either.. apologies if it did.
Now if there was ever a case of harassment, it would be by the belligerent mouth of that snarky, twisted little snoot right there.
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He was challenged about it in another "controversial thread" and clearly felt the need to make a point.
In any case I said pretty much the same thing. Unless tracking the same player down with an out-of-game motive, you cannot penalise someone for random killing, especially if the "victim" is going to their attacker. There may have been a motive behind the killing, not that they need one as per "play your way" and "...just hunt other CMDRs".
Typically these kind of EULA clauses are to prevent out-of-game motives coming into the game, as well as to stop bullying for in-game incidences. But nope, just had to be brought up as "thou shalt not kill"...
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rootsrat
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Very simple. A wing/wings of traders/explorers/whatever will stubbornly enter a system with blockade, they will die few times then massively report a players who are blocking the system/ruins/community goal/station or any place.
Any activity connected with shooting and against action of other player can be harrasment, because he want to do something and you want to stop him.
He will want enter the system or do community goal and you will not allowing him.
Every carebear after destroying his ship is pushing report button.
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Yeah, and the ED community as a whole has a certain context. Last time someone tried to bully me it was because I was saying cookies instead of biscuits.
There are many things I would remind the forum goers of regarding the EULA, such as ED's stance on combat logging and exploits. Abuse doesn't really happen here unless you're an opinionated poster on the forums, then the bluecoats are more than willing to get heavy-handed.
rootsrat
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Then in my eyes Frontier should ban them for abusing the reporting system
In short, you are wrong in your overall assessment IMO. It does not matter if there is some announcement somewhere or not, a blockade by it's essence involves the use of intimidation which fundamentally means any given blockader could find themselves legitimately at the wrong end of a harassment/bullying accusation depending EXCLUSIVELY on their in-game behaviours and/or communications (the latter is not a requirement for harassment and depending on the nature of said communications could mitigate any potential complaints).
In short, if any given player or group of players engage in blockading behaviour and employ a KOS mentality they are putting themselves at risk of being legitimately accused of harassment/bullying.
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Sole Hunter
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I really don't see what is the goal of this thread. The rules are stickied at the bottom of the board and on the frontpage when you log-in...
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What dung. So when DF tried to UA bomb Eravate and AA blockaded them, AA shoulda been penalised right?
Or if the Imps decide to blockade a Fed CG, they should be penalised for trying to play something other than godawful repetitive NPC murdering?
So much for "play your way"...heh.
*facepalm*
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Sole Hunter
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that's dank lol...
The issue of blockades is more an issue of communication, in my view. Neither the galaxy map or jump screen gives any indication of the internal situation of a system outside of pure BGS/NPC events. Perhaps it could be helped by having an "Activity meter" or something similar that gives some indication of the number of players in a specific system, which would give traders/smugglers/criminals a chance to plot routes that avoid popular systems without having to exit the game and find out where the popular systems are from the forums.
Careful, your nose will be longer than my Anaconda at this rate.
Seriously though, I thought you'd be delighted with a post which is exhorting players to refrain from combat logging if they feel they're being targeted? Wow this PVP is complicated stuff.
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