Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[ExoForce]

So question (another one): Wonder if the message (scan, bar/morse code..) is different if a CMDR is carrying UA/UO or being without them? In some videos couldnt see the "code" and the scan looked much shorter. (or videos are different quality...)

 

[William J Smith]

I dont know if this has been mentioned but.......

I went to the first barnacle site at Merope last night, poor thing all mined out and dead but still making its odd noise.

Then notice the ground around it had changed, its cracked and damaged, and I'm sure when I was mining there 6 months ago it was not like that.

So it maybe worth checking all the 'live' barnacle sites for the same thing... or even if the barnacle is still there because those alien ships sure do sound alike to the sounds the barnacles make

Bill

<<side tracked with yet another bubble job before he can head out again ....

 

[Yaffle]

Have you guys seen this? https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/320124-I-found-something-strange

May be related, may not be.

 

[DAOWAce]

I dont know if this has been mentioned but.......

I went to the first barnacle site at Merope last night, poor thing all mined out and dead but still making its odd noise.

I finally got into all this stuff and went to the site for the first time. Saw that it looked raided, thought that was just progression from this alien event.

Took a screenshot though:

 

[Cmdr Edard]

Do we have a map like the UA shell to track the Thargoidictions?

I had one yesterday at Aries Dark Region ZF-N B7-2

http://imgur.com/a/E8o1d

 

[Han_Zen]

Interesting.

@Yaffle, that is.

 

[Surl Tesh-echer]

Do we have a map like the UA shell to track the Thargoidictions?

Maybe that's stupid, but I think we should give a closer look to loading screens in hyperspace. There is a lot of yellow-green (like diarrhea ) showing in witchspace when someone is being interdicted by this(those) alien(s). And when you are traveling in witchspace different colours are showing (blue, red, etc.). So, maybe if we want to be Thargodicted we should look more for diarrhea? Maybe there is more s**t in some regions when you travel? Because if I am not hallucinating, I think sometimes I see more of this colour in witchspace...

 

[isokix]

I have just been Hyper-dicted in the HIP 14554 system enroute to PLEIADES SECTOR CH-L B8-0


Was it scary - hell yes !!

items onboard:
6 Unknown Artefacts
4 Unknown Fragments
Fuel tank at 90%
Took no damage
Ship wasn't healed
Unknown Artefacts still onboard after encounter

[video=youtube_share;ZKoPg17xirg]https://youtu.be/ZKoPg17xirg[/video]

 

[William J Smith]

I finally got into all this stuff and went to the site for the first time. Saw that it looked raided, thought that was just progression from this alien event.

Took a screenshot though:

Yeah thats the thing... a mined out barnie, however look at the ground on the lower right side of the central part, see those cracks and rocks.... they were'nt there when I was activily mining that barnacle

The question is..... are they there as a result of a heavily damaged barnacle trying to do something ... like say.. grow and not succeding because some horrid life form has spent the last 6 months shooting bits off it....

Bill

<<<wondering if Sgr A* will let him hide inside...

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

Hey peeps, I am out near Colonia and wondered if there is anything this way that is UA/UP barnacle related out this neck of the woods? Anything anyone wants me to check?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I have been hyperdicted twice and neither time did anything get taken from my hold. I still have the same 3 in my hold from both encounters. They are still there. In fact everything else that I had is still there as well.

So I am wondering if its a glitch on the games fault or someone who is over excited reading too far into it. I was not able to get interdicted again today otherwise I would have had a third example of them not taking anything.

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Thargoids are not humans. Revenge may not be part of their thought pattern. Who knows how time works in witchspace. It could have been millennia for them between their last perceived encounter with humans. Who knows. They are thargoids of some kind either the klaxians or the oresians. Either way an 8 sided organic ship without visual means of propulsion fits these things to a T.

It is possible that it is a glitch, but there are several reports of UAs having disappeared from the cargo hold after hyperdiction so it is currently part of the available evidence to consider. Perhaps some of the pilots affected could raise bug reports so we can get some indication of whether this is real behaviour or program bug.

These ships have 8 main "arms" it is true, but they also have several smaller arms at the rear; moreover the arms are curved and have two edges. So to my mind these are not "8-sided" and there is no reason to automatically consider them to be Thargoids. In my previous experience (32 years ago & which may or may not fit into the current E|D lore, so "revenge" may not be applicable) Thargoids were merciless, and attacked on sight until either you or they were killed. These aliens currently exhibit no hostile intent, but on the contrary according to current reports appear to be refuelling and repairing interdicted ships, and may be removing toxic UA cargo; also they have been shot at by some pilots & have not returned fire, hence they are not exhibiting any of the behaviour traditionally attributed to Thargoids

 

[DustyArne]

I was wondering.

I noticed that the crashed human ships, near the crashed Alien ships only carried food like cargo.

Fish, grain, beer, liquor, tea, ect ect.

I filled up my cargo hold with food stuff, and a UA, hoping I would get " hyperdicted" a second time but this didn't happend.

Did anyone else tried this?

 

[Furinkazan]

Are the Oresrians and Klaxians canon or not? I thought the entirety of The Dark Wheel was non canon.

 

[N3rd Murd3r3r]

Hey all, just doing my part for science.

Got Winterdicted, and I had UA and AI Relics on-board. As you can find AI Relics in Maia (and elsewhere, but a quick search online brought up Maia a few times), it seemed a bit of a coincidence that could be explored. Maybe the remenants of AI/Thargoid war etc etc.

Anyway, no change to the 'First Contact' sequence to report.

 

[Han_Zen]

Are the Oresrians and Klaxians canon or not? I thought the entirety of The Dark Wheel was non canon.

We don't know yet, but it seem likely that there are more than one type of Thargoids.

The names are kind of meaningless for now, but the prinsipal is interesting.

 

[Gypsy12]

I agree, the centre of the crashed ships compared to these ships are different:

Crash Site Example:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NY12XLDqC2U/maxresdefault.jpg

First Contact Example:

http://i.imgur.com/bRquJWl.jpg

These are both clearly different... (and I'm sure if we all analyze the 8 wings hard enough, we will see subtle differences in shape and colour).

I think these are both Thargoid (as a race, but one (I think) is Klaxian, and the other is Oresian - these will be Ethnically different (Caucasian, Asian; for a more 'human' example).

This also raises another possibility;

If the Crash Sites are Klaxian, then they must be related somehow to the Unknown Artefacts. After all, one Crash Site has 3 or 4 Unknown Artefacts scattered around (right next to) the crashed alien ship...

So I propose this hypothesis;

Klaxian technology is related to the Unknown Artefacts.

Oresian technology is related to the Unknown Probes.

This could be vice-versa, of course, but considering the Unknown Artefacts are scattered around the subtly different looking (and only green-glowing) crashed alien ship, and not probes, it must mean we are dealing with two ethnically different types of Thargoids.

Both the Unknown Probes and the new alien ship encounter disable us in exactly the same way - they power down our ships (or at least disable our cockpits, because shields are never lost nor need to reboot - this in itself means disabling our means of control is more of a way of pacifying us just for the short term - it is not an aggressive act, albeit, even if we see it that way).

Both the Artefacts and Probes look very different;

Probe:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_Probe.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819052516

Artefact:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...act_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504171012

Pay close attention to the colouring! Now compare the colours of the probes to that of the Crash Sites and then the one being seen during the Hyperdiction!

I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.

Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...

They match.

The Barnacles? I also think they are related to the Unknown Probes and the living ships Hyperdicting everyone - they specifically HEAL space stations with Meta-Alloys that they produce, and may in fact be something the Oresians use to protect themselves against the Klaxians... who could be returning, and the "good" aliens know they are coming...

Just to tell you that I got Hyperdicted immediately after activating a UP and jumping to Merope. So. Yep. They DO go for UP ships.

Also, on a side note:

Looks like the UP would be a nice fit for those two circular depressions inside the Active alien ship cockpit eh?

And the crashed ship only has one depression....For a UA? Hrmmmm.....!

 

[Tessa R Act]

My humble thoughts about the different cargos people are taking to get interdicted - unless we set up a proper probing initiative with a few dozend cdrs. with different cargos/histories, all assumed until know may fall under the category "you find it where U R looking for it".
Hence I propose that CANONN sets up a google.sheet for Cdrs. to subscribe, containing information like
contact with UA/UP/MA before yes/no, type of cargo etc.... and these cdrs. do not change parameters. Then a significant no. of jumps 100-200 in the area possibly affected (my guess would be radius Merope +200Lj) best for stats if everybody does exactly the same probe (e.g. 200 Jumps) and add´s the number and places of Hyperdiction - thats the ONLY way to get some statistically relevant data....

fly safe, Xenia

edit: as soon as I am back from Colonia I´ll join too may take while, Im transferring my Vulture - which is not known for exceeding jump distances....

 

[Tangy Red Smurf]

Just wondering if the interdictions are more likely if you have damage to modules rather than a specific item in your cargo bay (this would be a possible side effect of carrying a UA in an unshielded rack) seems like there maybe something to the aliens repairing your ship. Just a thought though.

 

[Gypsy12]

From my memory of the Dark Wheel by Robert Holdstock the Oresrians just looked like them. Didn;t say they were peaceful Thargoids. They had physical differences (slight differences) from memory it was their knees or something. Similar looking but not the same race.

EDIT: Found it..
" Alex stepped away, heart beating, blood rushing to his head. Compound eyes, jointed limbs, head
antennae, double cutting jaws . . .
Thargoids!
Here, on a space station!
Thargoids were deadly. Thargoid spacers had their fear-glands removed, and were considered to
be the most effective and potent of humankind's enemies. The bounty for killing a Thargoid was
huge, and for capturing and delivering the juvenile form, the Tharglet, to any Space Navy research
centre, even greater.
What were they doing here?
The Thargoids chatted together and watched Alex coldly. Alex noticed that each had an appendage
resting on its thoracic plate, where they holstered their hand-lasers.
'Back off,' a voice whispered, and Alex turned. McGreavy stood there blinking through his
deformities. Alex had not grasped how short the man was; he only came up as far as Alex's chest.
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'Thargoids . . .' he whispered.
'Bull,' McGreavy said, and dragged Alex away. 'They're Oresrians, and the one thing that can
make an Oresrian deadly is being confused the way you've just confused them, with their deadly
enemies the Thargoids. Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind
leg before you jump to conclusions again . . .'
Alex followed McGreavy gratefully, away from the whispering insects."

Thorax markings eh? Those bird like things that light up on UA- and UPs look mighty like a thorax.... Hrmmmm!

EG:

Tinfoil!

 

[Nick Sticks]

Just wondering if the interdictions are more likely if you have damage to modules rather than a specific item in your cargo bay (this would be a possible side effect of carrying a UA in an unshielded rack) seems like there maybe something to the aliens repairing your ship. Just a thought though.

I have thought this as well.
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