Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Here's my best attempt at matching up the living ship to the crashed ship(s). I used the pics from Ghost Giraffe, and Third Nostril.

I think most of the crashed ship parts are from the back.

Does this look right?

If i remember correctly subsystem check showed 4 drives.
The ship has 4 drives on the main hull close to the "inner center".
So imo it is safe to say the central spherical object is not the engine.
 
Since these Thargoids do not have a large civilization Bubble in this galaxy like Humans do, I am leaning toward the notion they originate in the Magellanic clouds. Perhaps there is something about the Pleiades cluster that is similar to the type of stars in the Magellanic clouds. Hot, large, young stars, low metal content?

Possibly their Bubble is in the permit locked systems, but I have a feeling that is reserved for something else. Guardians? Rogue AI?

Then perhaps what we are looking for in the Formidine Rift is their means of transport to this galaxy, something like a Mass Relay and a staging area.
 
I think honestly the UAs are markers for them so they can scan who goes where like a surveillance system. The UPs are a warning message to leave their stuff alone. The federation capital ship killed the downed alienship and now they're flying around in plain site as a good will tour to help gain support.
 
Just to tell you that I got Hyperdicted immediately after activating a UP and jumping to Merope. So. Yep. They DO go for UP ships.

Also, on a side note:

Looks like the UP would be a nice fit for those two circular depressions inside the Active alien ship cockpit eh?

And the crashed ship only has one depression....For a UA? Hrmmmm.....!

Due to the resemblance with our current robotic technology, it is likely those two circular elements inside the canopy are organic lenses and that the ship is an AI controlled drone.

I can't think of any other explanation seeing as there doesn't seem to be anybody in there or even any form of typical cockpit setup.
 
Due to the resemblance with our current robotic technology, it is likely those two circular elements inside the canopy are organic lenses and that the ship is an AI controlled drone.

I can't think of any other explanation seeing as there doesn't seem to be anybody in there or even any form of typical cockpit setup.

if its alien then typical cockpit wouldnt apply?

Also i like the thoughts ideas and detail people go into about the alien ship. I hope that the game play from it is in depth and were not kept waiting for too long for the next instalment.

One question i dont know if its been asked or answered but why now?
why did the first contact come now?
is the date significant?
 
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Due to the resemblance with our current robotic technology, it is likely those two circular elements inside the canopy are organic lenses and that the ship is an AI controlled drone.

I can't think of any other explanation seeing as there doesn't seem to be anybody in there or even any form of typical cockpit setup.

This ship is GIGANTIC we dont know how big the alien inside is. for all we know. one of those circles could be an entire bridge
 
Who did introduce the term "barnacle" at all? Was ist a commander or FD?

Why have barnacles and the now interdicting vessels strong connections to the ocean? My thoughts:
Barncacles are similar to clams in my opinion. They looks like them in a way, the seem to grow onto another surface and it looks like they are closed...which means they can or will be opened at one point to reveal something
The vessel looks strongly like a jellyfish, especially given the bioluminescence (which also mostly occurs under water). Adding to that, they even move more or less slow and graceful as if in water. The orange glow behind them is like tendrils/tenctacles. The blur strengthens the similarity with water.

If FD branded the name "barnacle", why would they do that?

Those are just some thoughts, maybe you can think about it as well. But it doesn't answer why the barnacles etc. are located in the blue (ocean?) Pleiades. I'm happy to hear any opinion

Glastinghouse
 
It's hard to be certain given the difficulty taking pictures on the hyperdicting craft, but while there is a definite similarity in appearance between them and the crashed craft wreckages found so far, the crashed crafts seem a lot smaller in size.

The hyperdicting craft might be the 'thargoid' motherships to the crashed craft 'tharglets' of lore.

Or the crashed craft are an older model (I believe a Galnet articled claimed they'd been there a long, long time).

Either way, they don't seem like the exact same ship type to me.
 
Did anybody check this?

have you also noticed the morse signal in the lighting before the scan happens? I have reduced the speed to x0.2 to see that it can be some morse signal. I have only a screenshot from the moment because youtube still needs some minutes.
I have not enough knowledge to decode it if it is morse.
 
Was the rumour of a hyperdicted commanders hands becoming more orange/infected looking every verified?
I would check but I'm currently in Colonia, heavily debating flying back - but want to see the new Canonn Colonia Department base first >.> blagghh!!
 
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Just had a thought. If the same UA technology is used in these ships, perhaps they also deteriorate in 'normal' space and require repair from available resources. The UAs are able to do this from our ships.

They may be producing meta alloys to achieve this in the resource rich nebulae, allowing them to establish a foothold and sustain themselves for long enough to achieve some purpose, such as a colonisation attempt. Their barnacles may have been engineered from naturally occurring ones to produce a more suitable output for their needs. We have yet to see the barnacles harvested for their intended purpose - perhaps with the arrival of the ships we will find out soon :)
 
Was the rumour of a hyperdicted commanders hands becoming more orange/infected looking every verified?
I would check but I'm currently in Colonia, heavily debating flying back - but want to see the new Canonn Colonia Department base first >.> blagghh!!
I never read about orange, only infected. After reading it I checked my hands thoroughly (in-game and out-of-game). They look normal to me, albeit a bit old out-of-game :).
 
Discussed evidence around these points here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4978405&viewfull=1#post4978405

I think at this time that the crashed ship central part is actually the back end of a ship - it looks more like the rear thrusters to me. The number of what look like vents on the crashed sample I wonder if these are attachments for the back fans/wings/arms to attach to. That's just my 2Cr worth though, I think until otherwise notified none of us will know.

Looking forward to my own encounter!

That was my conclusion, as one of the top wings is still more or less in it's attachment point at the hull. From the shape of those attachment points it's clear that they facilitate opening/closing of the wings/petals as has been seen in the encounters. There's 8 of those points, and 8 of 3 other potential attachment points, each set of which matches a point on one of the wings/sections/modules/tendrils.

Here's my best attempt at matching up the living ship to the crashed ship(s). I used the pics from Ghost Giraffe, and Third Nostril.

I think most of the crashed ship parts are from the back.

Does this look right?

http://i.imgur.com/DhsIAL9.png

Yep! There's evidence to support this in my post, including shots of the upper wing that's still more or less in place in the crashed ship's hull (the tip of it has been driven through the hull in the crash, but it's clear where it would have fit prior to the crash.

If i remember correctly subsystem check showed 4 drives.
The ship has 4 drives on the main hull close to the "inner center".
So imo it is safe to say the central spherical object is not the engine.

Agreed - the drives are on the 'leg supports' as they're labelled on the image artigan99 posted. Only 4 out of the 8 pieces of that type have the drive. These appear to be the thrusters from the videos. The central object might still be another type of drive, but there's some indications that it might actually be a deposition point for the balls that can be seen in the cockpit. I posted the images which suggest this as few pages back.

It's hard to be certain given the difficulty taking pictures on the hyperdicting craft, but while there is a definite similarity in appearance between them and the crashed craft wreckages found so far, the crashed crafts seem a lot smaller in size.

The hull of the crashed ship is about the size of a 'Conda. Once all the other parts are attached, the overall size is much bigger than a 'Conda. A photo showing the size is in the last sub-post of the link I've put at the start of this post.

Not sure how big everyone is thinking the ship from the encounters is, but the sizes look like they'd be similar to me.

The hyperdicting craft might be the 'thargoid' motherships to the crashed craft 'tharglets' of lore.

IIRC the tharglets were a different shape to the the thargoid motherships, whereas these ships would be the same shape. The shape of the ships could all have been retconned since those days of course!

Or the crashed craft are an older model (I believe a Galnet articled claimed they'd been there a long, long time).

Either way, they don't seem like the exact same ship type to me.

Have a look at the stuff in the post I've linked and see what you think!
 
1. System - Pleiades Sector WO-A C1
2. Ship - Asp Explorer
3. Recently scanned by a UA - Yes
4. UA and/or a UP on board - 1 x UA
5. Solo/Private/Open - Private

Video here
 
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Who did introduce the term "barnacle" at all? Was ist a commander or FD?

Why have barnacles and the now interdicting vessels strong connections to the ocean? My thoughts:
Barncacles are similar to clams in my opinion. They looks like them in a way, the seem to grow onto another surface and it looks like they are closed...which means they can or will be opened at one point to reveal something
The vessel looks strongly like a jellyfish, especially given the bioluminescence (which also mostly occurs under water). Adding to that, they even move more or less slow and graceful as if in water. The orange glow behind them is like tendrils/tenctacles. The blur strengthens the similarity with water.

If FD branded the name "barnacle", why would they do that?

Those are just some thoughts, maybe you can think about it as well. But it doesn't answer why the barnacles etc. are located in the blue (ocean?) Pleiades. I'm happy to hear any opinion

Glastinghouse

The term 'large barnacle' was introduced in the commodity description for Meta-Alloys.

We did briefly discus the top of the UAs heads recembelance to barnacles, about half a year before that.
I don't think they nicked the idea from us though. :)
 
I was hyperdicted a couple of hours ago in Pleiades Sector VU-O b6-3 when jumping to HIP 17044.

No cargo on board, never carried any UP's or UA's, but I did have 20 UF's after going to Maia. Usual routine followed by alien, no UF's taken.
 
Just had a thought. If the same UA technology is used in these ships, perhaps they also deteriorate in 'normal' space and require repair from available resources. The UAs are able to do this from our ships.

They may be producing meta alloys to achieve this in the resource rich nebulae, allowing them to establish a foothold and sustain themselves for long enough to achieve some purpose, such as a colonisation attempt. Their barnacles may have been engineered from naturally occurring ones to produce a more suitable output for their needs. We have yet to see the barnacles harvested for their intended purpose - perhaps with the arrival of the ships we will find out soon :)

Something about this idea feels very right - and would match up with the high nebulosity seen through the rift and the "it's logical really" about barnacles and nebulae
 
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