It's a simple question but with a yes or no answer but you reply with sermons. I voted YES for the Irish GF Aggrement, a simple question would you vote yes or no for a analogue English/British GF Aggrement. It's as simple as that.
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It's a simple question but with a yes or no answer but you reply with sermons. I voted YES for the Irish GF Aggrement, a simple question would you vote yes or no for a analogue English/British GF Aggrement. It's as simple as that.
I've already answered that more than once.
So let's get this right. I have given you a straight answer as to how I voted yes, but you cannot give me a straight forward answer as how you would vote in an analogue English/ British agreement.
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How odd, this is the third time that I've explained I've answered that three times.
One of the bigger flaws of modern Atheism (with a capital 'A', to distinguish the Atheist from those of us who are merely non-religious) is that it refuses to consider religious attitudes as anything more than a backward idea held by obstinate, foolish, and violent people. Nuance and rationality were religion is concerned is, ironically enough, lost upon the Atheist.
The Northern Ireland troubles were evidently not about religion, either that or you can go find me a case of Irish terrorism with transubstantiation being brought up. That factions are divided along religious lines isn't really relevant when you consider the cultural differences were also drawn across those lines. They weren't fighting to spread their religion but to either remove what they saw as an occupying force or support what they thought of as a benign rulership.
Why am I not surprised, you feel fit to admonish the pesky Irish and others from your little perch for their petty squabbling when you haven`t the backbone to give a straight answer to a simple question. You hide behind religious nonsense arguments to give yourself an air of credence while obviously being clueless about the real nature and cause of the Irish conflict. You remind me of the guy who sits at the back of the room and when asked a simple question picks his nose and stares at the ceiling. You have zero credibility to lecture anyone on this side of the water, about as much as a damp rag.
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Do you feel better about yourself after resorting to insults ?.
I'll explain why you can't handle a nuanced answer, you see catholic or protestant, right or wrong, north or south, good or evil, friend or foe, yes or no because that's what you were indoctrinated to do from birth. I don't fit within either of the only two polar opposite options you can recognize, and you can't cope with it. Well done you.
When I need advice from the clueless, I`ll give you a shout.
Do you want to have another go at analyzing the answers I gave you, or are you sulking ?.
*Shakes head sadly*
There goes the last of your credibility in any discussion about politics, democracy or human rights.
Maybe you should make it more concrete, it could be Cornwall, for example, as an Irish colony.
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An Irish good friday agreement? The irish had almost no part in that agreement...it was an agreement between nationalists, unionists and the british with the irish relegated to the subs bench so to speak. If the irish had had any hand in it at all, ye wouldnt even have gotten us round the table, let alone got an agreement in place.
Apart from that, you claim you voted for it, but yer tone suggests yer more stuck in the past than the present. Most of us have put the past behind us...all you seem to want to do is keep raking over the embers of the past and that is more a source of tension here than anything else. Why cant ye just let it go? Past hurts? We all suffered so what the hell makes you such a special snowflake? People like you are causing more tension when thats the last thing we need right now, so lets all send everyone else on a guilt trip over events we had absolutely nothing to do with, shall we? Ah yes, thats really helpful.
I dont mute people often...dont like doing it even if they just an example of concentrated stupidity. But on this occasion, I judge you to be an even bigger bigot than an orange grandmaster on the garvaghy road. So on that note...goodbye and I hope ye dont pass yer bigotry onto yer kids as that would be a greater wrong.
Apologies fer pulling this off topic...I wont comment on this thread again.
Leave him alone, the guy was putting an idea out there and he'd been having a jar or three. He's here and he's ready to listen, give him that.
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The Royalist Faction or rather the Monarchist Faction in Britain. Is very far spread and very Powerful.
The Tory Party is not exactly unknown for having such Views either.
And different interviews among the British Populace are indicating that alot of British People are actually Supporting the Idea to return to an Society were your Heritage is a Deciding Factor for your Position in Society.
In more extreme cases they wish to return to a full or at least partial Monarchy where the Royal Family Rules the Country and where Pure Blooded British Families are the only ones allowed in higher Positions and where your Rank is not Dependent on your Education or Effort but is decided by your Heritage. In short you dont earn Rank by Education and Effort. But you are receiving Education for a Rank that your Born into.
As the Support for the Monarchy itself is Steadfast in the UK. The more Extreme Views dont stand out much and are for most part Tolerated.
The Queen being the Religious Head of the Protestant Christians intensifies this even more.
Up to this Day Loyality of Military in the UK is not Sworn to the Country or the People.
But to the British Monarch in the UK.
Interestingly. The Monarchists Organizations did not take any Sides in the Brexit Campaigns and remained very Neutral despite some attempts of the Brexiteers to gather Support among the Royalists.
One of the more Notable Attempts being a Local Group of UKIP trying to spread Misinformation that the EU would Force the UK to abandon the Monarchy.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/saraspary/...parliament-cla?utm_term=.jfQbJPr9J#.ujy2Kj73K
Its an Pretty Interesting thing from a third person perspective.
What's "pure blooded British" ?.
The House of Windsor is the royal house of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms. The dynasty is of German paternal descent and was originally a branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, itself derived from the House of Wettin, which succeeded the House of Hanover as monarchs in the British Empire following the death of Queen Victoria, wife of Albert, Prince Consort. The houses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and Windsor have provided five British monarchs to date, including four kings and the present queen, Elizabeth II.
Source :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Windsor
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But... wanting to hand absolute power to a monarch? Surely I have to take him at his word, he said it several times.
The Good Friday Agreement involved a referendum in the North and and another one in the South, which I voted in.
Do you actually believe that the Irish state has no input and say in relation to the North.
Edit-Also in relation to your bigot remark look to the DUP clowns, you obviously don`t know the meaning of the word. I don`t have to run around waving flags like a bunch of flutes out of a complete sense of insecurity. As for history it speaks for itself.
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Well I wasn't being entirely serious. I really do greatly admire and respect the Queen and when you consider how long she had been head of state and how much knowledge and experience she has, I think she would do a far FAR better job of leading the country than those we get to elect. The only way that could happen is she sacked the government and became a dictator, but it would never happen anyway because there is no way she would do something like that.
And cheers Spacebaboy [smile]
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Sunleader as some pretty fancifully ideas of modern day Britain. I think he has me on ignore because I wouldn't accept his assertions that the British government is racist and not just the government. You have been warned
I'm gonna keep out of this now unless it's on topic because I feel largely responsible for the derailment (apologies).