Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Timsk

Timsk
Not noticed this discussed here, but why is there a UP signal in Josh Hawkins' winterdiction video? Very obvious to me, right after he is pulled out. Notably, music is turned off.

[video=youtube;-e4xvG03YVc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e4xvG03YVc[/video]

Spectro of the sound:

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rizal72

rizal72
Howard o Pato said:
I'm not sure if anyone has already commented on this, but interdiction in Earth is false.
A very poor work of Photoshop
Can be easily perceived by the bugs at the edge of the name.
Then the obvious: a wake as a target in space, appears only as location: deep space, the target is wrong. Even if it were real appearing sun system would be more convincing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241002132306788352/267500682473373699/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/202230097019797504/268065394617614346/0101.png
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Thanks for pointing out, I'll be updating the FrontPage immedately about it ;)

bitstorm said:
Might as well repost my thing from ages back :

https://drive.google.com/uc?view=export&id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLalBFYTQ0WHRBUGs
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And I agree. I'm tempted to put it on the FP...
 

Chogger

Chogger
crushdepth said:
Well, the shell looks like a defensive sensor network or early warning system, and there should be a receiving station in merope of some kind (or perhaps, used to be) and we haven't found it yet. Maybe its hidden.
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No doubt complete coincidence but it's always amused me that in the:
Core of THE PROBLEM

Is an anagram of:
Core of MEROPE BLT H [BLT = belt? H=8]

If coincidence, could have been a clever clue!

I know the belts have been checked and I've been to Belt 8 and there's nothing but a miner and getting attacked. Moment of madness over...
 

begobogo

B
So after thinking about the last few days in bed, I have concluded that we are in deep . Why would the meta alloys counter UAs and UPs? If both are from the same race why would they make a counter to there own creation? That doesn't make sense. I think the thargoids are engaged in a war with a new race yet to be discovered. The meta alloys are either this races counter to the thargoids UAs and UPs or its the other way round. Either way I think there's a bigger picture here.

Edit: didn't like the word I put after deep
 
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Owsla

Owsla
ok just going to keep things simple for a second.
The Alien craft pulls us out of hyperspace,
then appears to scan us, tho, looking at the video carefully I'd say it isn't a scan, because you can see the Alien craft is actually pulling something in.

So the purpose of the "scan" is to take something from us.
Then the Alien craft quickly departs, and fires some kind of beam to open a rift in space.

Thinking about that in simple terms, I'd say whatever the Alien craft took from us, it needs in order to open the rift.

An excellent clear view of the beam fired from the ship can be seen on this video.
Sorry it was posted earlier, but I have lost who it was in the thread.
Thankyou to Tommytoes75 for the footage.

[video=youtube;fDpWnqJcfnA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpWnqJcfnA[/video]
 
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iFred

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Osla said:
ok just going to keep things simple for a second.
The Alien craft pulls us out of hyperspace,
then appears to scan us, tho, looking at the video carefully I'd say it isn't a scan, because you can see the Alien craft is actually pulling something in.

So the purpose of the "scan" is to take something from us.
Then the Alien craft quickly departs, and fires some kind of beam to open a rift in space.

Thinking about that in simple terms, I'd say whatever the Alien craft took from us, it needs in order to open the rift.

An excellent clear view of the beam fired from the ship can be seen on this video.
Sorry it was posted earlier, but I have lost who it was in the thread.
Thankyou to Tommytoes75 for the footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpWnqJcfnA
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Maybe they need untypical disrupted wake echoes :)
 

begobogo

B
Osla said:
ok just going to keep things simple for a second.
The Alien craft pulls us out of hyperspace,
then appears to scan us, tho, looking at the video carefully I'd say it isn't a scan, because you can see the Alien craft is actually pulling something in.

So the purpose of the "scan" is to take something from us.
Then the Alien craft quickly departs, and fires some kind of beam to open a rift in space.

Thinking about that in simple terms, I'd say whatever the Alien craft took from us, it needs in order to open the rift.

An excellent clear view of the beam fired from the ship can be seen on this video.
Sorry it was posted earlier, but I have lost who it was in the thread.
Thankyou to Tommytoes75 for the footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpWnqJcfnA
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Looks like it use the same beam thing it used on us
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Crusina Luachra said:
I can confirm with 100% certainty that you do not have to have the probe selected in order to activate its EMP effect with the ADS.
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Thanks, and yeah, I had seen that in the second section of your vid the UP wasn't selected when you did the honk.

I'm just wondering whether it might be different in the presence of the ship as things obviously don't work as normal in the encounter. (I'm assuming that it won't make any difference whatsoever of course, but it's always good if assumptions can be confirmed for definite!)

Edit: Oh, and I would try it myself, but my number of hyperdictions and of UP finds are both big ol' zeros.
 
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Crusina Luachra

Crusina Luachra
Osla said:
ok just going to keep things simple for a second.
The Alien craft pulls us out of hyperspace,
then appears to scan us, tho, looking at the video carefully I'd say it isn't a scan, because you can see the Alien craft is actually pulling something in.

So the purpose of the "scan" is to take something from us.
Then the Alien craft quickly departs, and fires some kind of beam to open a rift in space.

Thinking about that in simple terms, I'd say whatever the Alien craft took from us, it needs in order to open the rift.

An excellent clear view of the beam fired from the ship can be seen on this video.
Sorry it was posted earlier, but I have lost who it was in the thread.
Thankyou to Tommytoes75 for the footage.
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Or maybe the scanner just pulls stuff in when it scans and it's not taking objects we can't see.
 

Lorddrakewater

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So I've noticed that the US never touches the craft but obviously has some form of gravity field. This to me explains how the winterdiction happens.

Ship generates a gravity pocket which is similar to falling out of super cruise when a ship gets too close to a sun/planet.

Further evidence of gravity manipulation is the push back effect experienced by pilots who have attempted to enter the unknown wake.

My theory on the scans it proforms reminds me of how biologist check on tagged sharks or animals. The higher chance(rng) comes to pilots who have recently been scanned. But since there are reports that pilots who have had no contact(is this confirmed yet) with alien tech are also experiencing it suggest that this race is also fishing not just following up on ships already tagged.
 

Spruxxx

Spruxxx
Another question...why would they pull us out of hyperspace into normal space? If hyperspace is their natural habitat, why not keep us there and scan us?

Perhaps they do wish to deal with us on our terms? Or perhaps some of the technology they are using in the encounter is either less effective, or ineffective, for some reason in hyperspace...


Earlier I had a thought that their ships may deteriorate outside of witchspace if the technology is similar to the UAs. And this may be why they are farming meta alloys in resource rich zones - it could allow them to sustain themselves here for long enough to achieve something, such as finding something they are looking for, or to establish a foothold for colonisation.

Either way, something is prompting them to come out of witchspace and interact with us, possibly at risk to themselves. Our increased use of FSD drives would only partly explain it, because as the latest Galnet article states, this technology in its various evolutions is not new in the Elite universe.
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Spruxxx said:
Another question...why would they pull us out of hyperspace into normal space? If hyperspace is their natural habitat, why not keep us there and scan us?

Perhaps they do wish to deal with us on our terms? Or perhaps some of the technology they are using in the encounter is either less effective, or ineffective, for some reason in hyperspace...


Earlier I had a thought that their ships may deteriorate outside of witchspace if the technology is similar to the UAs. And this may be why they are farming meta alloys in resource rich zones - it could allow them to sustain themselves here for long enough to achieve something, such as finding something they are looking for, or to establish a foothold for colonisation.

Either way, something is prompting them to come out of witchspace and interact with us, possibly at risk to themselves. Our increased use of FSD drives would only partly explain it, because as the latest Galnet article states, this technology in its various evolutions is not new in the Elite universe.
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That's a good question. It is known that the Hyperspace (Witchspace) is actually harmful for the human ships. Maybe they pull us to normal space to protect us, or maybe witchspace is so unpredictable that they cannot do whatever they are doing in there.
 

Owsla

Owsla
Crusina Luachra said:
Or maybe the scanner just pulls stuff in when it scans and it's not taking objects we can't see.
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Yes, that could be and probably simply is the case, tho it could be taking something it needs which isn't an object.

Just before the scan starts the craft wings all move apart slightly, so there is some kind of exposure to areas around the centre of the craft,
I think on close up pictures people have captured they look like small holes or openings, after the scan finishes the craft wings then close again and it leaves.

It's a bit like what we would do to collect something, except we open and close a cargo hatch
 
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Surl Tesh-echer

Surl Tesh-echer
Damn it, I think I know what's happening - watch the video on the first page, in hyperspace time is 19:30 and after alien release you and everything goes back to normal it's 20:30!!!
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Osla said:
ok just going to keep things simple for a second.
The Alien craft pulls us out of hyperspace,
then appears to scan us, tho, looking at the video carefully I'd say it isn't a scan, because you can see the Alien craft is actually pulling something in.

So the purpose of the "scan" is to take something from us.
Then the Alien craft quickly departs, and fires some kind of beam to open a rift in space.

Thinking about that in simple terms, I'd say whatever the Alien craft took from us, it needs in order to open the rift.

An excellent clear view of the beam fired from the ship can be seen on this video.
Sorry it was posted earlier, but I have lost who it was in the thread.
Thankyou to Tommytoes75 for the footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpWnqJcfnA
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I think that's way too overthought. It would be really stupid (for the alien tech, not for your post :D) to actually depend on another race's ship in roder to travel through the galaxy. How did they come there in the first place?

I have serious doubts that your idea is the case. But let's put it inside the "maybe" section. Who knows, you may prove me wrong.
 

Emmdee

Emmdee
After playing with numerous different frames tonight in PS I tend to agree with you, despite my initial suggestion (hope?) it was a code. Dang indeed.

It is still an odd looking flare (to me) in that the line of double lines stay horizontal (with up/down displacement that seems proportional to height of the lines) whereas lens-flares in e.g. DSLR photography are radial. This could be down to the rendering engine (by design or artifact) or an aesthetic choice by the devs. (Obviously they wouldn't be trolling us would they...)

Tomtom said:
At first I, too, believed that there was some code in the lens flare. Having studied it some more, I no longer believe that to be the case.

....

I believe now that the flare pattern that we see is not a code, but results from the fact that the light beam is actually two beams, very small and very close together, and it is the sheer intensity of the light which is causing such a dramatic effect.

Dang. And I so wanted it to be a message :(
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M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Surl Tesh-echer said:
Damn it, I think I know what's happening - watch the video on the first page, in hyperspace time is 19:30 and after alien release you and everything goes back to normal it's 20:30!!!
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I really had to go and check that :D. The first video is a compilation of videos. If you see any uncut video you'll see that the time does not change :). But well spotted, commander!
 
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